When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

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Michael Chare wrote:

When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

I did. Maybe you live with just foam at the top if you had screws in
the other three sides ...

Michael Chare Wrote in message:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?


Id put more than one... assuming the lintel is actually concrete...
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Well as I recall they used some kind of spacers with screws on mynthen used
foam trimmed it and plastered over the top. On the window however they did
not wait quite long enough and about a month later there was a pop and a
crunch and a big bubble of foam had shattered the skimmed over plaster in
the corner of the window and sent the plaster into the sink.

Brian

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Michael Chare wrote:

When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

I did. Maybe you live with just foam at the top if you had screws in the
other three sides ...

Yes don't know what mine was.
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Michael Chare Wrote in message:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?


Id put more than one... assuming the lintel is actually concrete...
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On 28/02/2019 18:08, Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?


I might if the frame was wide. But if you have a steel cored uPVC frame
(which IIRC is most darker coloured frames and not white, unless you
explicitly spec if) then:

If I had an excellent fix at both sides and the window was not *too*
wide, I'd be happy to foam the top. Foam adds a surprising amount of
stiffness.

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an ordeal.

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Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.

On 28/02/2019 18:23, Jim K.. wrote:
Michael Chare Wrote in message:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?


Id put more than one... assuming the lintel is actually concrete...

Yes I was to lazy to use the plural. I am hoping that the made to
measure products that I have ordered will come with fitting
instructions. It will be a first time for installing these plastic items
and for using concrete screws.

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Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 18:23, Jim K.. wrote:
Michael Chare Wrote in message:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?


Id put more than one... assuming the lintel is actually concrete...

Yes I was to lazy to use the plural.

It wouldn't have used any more letters.


I am hoping that the made to
measure products that I have ordered will come with fitting
instructions. It will be a first time for installing these plastic items
and for using concrete screws.

Fingers crossed then (yours that is :-D )

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Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.


Drill frame, position frame, make some sort of mark through hole
onto lintel, remove frame, drill hole in lintel, replace frame,
wonder how to tighten screws.... :-D
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On 28/02/2019 19:56, Jim K.. wrote:
Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.


Drill frame, position frame, make some sort of mark through hole
onto lintel, remove frame, drill hole in lintel, replace frame,
wonder how to tighten screws.... :-D

If I had that problem I would use my small ratchet drive without the
long extensions which I also bought to do another job. :-)

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When they replaced the windows in my mum's flat with UPVC frames they simply used concrete screws. Frame positioned packed and wedged square drilled and screws inserted job done.

Richard

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When they replaced the windows in my mum's flat with UPVC frames they simply used concrete screws. Frame positioned packed and wedged square drilled and screws inserted job done.

Richard


The point related to windows with top openers and the access
issues of getting tools in to drill & screw home into lintels
above...
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Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 19:56, Jim K.. wrote:
Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.


Drill frame, position frame, make some sort of mark through hole
onto lintel, remove frame, drill hole in lintel, replace frame,
wonder how to tighten screws.... :-D

If I had that problem I would use my small ratchet drive without the
long extensions which I also bought to do another job. :-)


How small is small? And could that equate to weak?
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On 28/02/2019 23:24, Jim K.. wrote:
Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 19:56, Jim K.. wrote:
Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.


Drill frame, position frame, make some sort of mark through hole
onto lintel, remove frame, drill hole in lintel, replace frame,
wonder how to tighten screws.... :-D

If I had that problem I would use my small ratchet drive without the
long extensions which I also bought to do another job. :-)


How small is small? And could that equate to weak?

It is a Professional Heavy Duty Quick Release Ratchet Wrench 1/4 Inch
Drive Handle sold on ebay. Certainly strong enough to turn any of the
small bit sets.

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Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 23:24, Jim K.. wrote:
Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 19:56, Jim K.. wrote:
Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.


Drill frame, position frame, make some sort of mark through hole
onto lintel, remove frame, drill hole in lintel, replace frame,
wonder how to tighten screws.... :-D

If I had that problem I would use my small ratchet drive without the
long extensions which I also bought to do another job. :-)


How small is small? And could that equate to weak?

It is a Professional Heavy Duty Quick Release Ratchet Wrench 1/4 Inch
Drive Handle sold on ebay. Certainly strong enough to turn any of the
small bit sets.


Just the screws to grip & turn then!
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In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam etc infill
provides the strength.

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On 01/03/2019 07:19, Jim K.. wrote:
Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 23:24, Jim K.. wrote:
Michael Chare Wrote in message:
On 28/02/2019 19:56, Jim K.. wrote:
Andy Burns Wrote in message:
Tim Watts wrote:

OTOH if you have/borrow an SDS drilling the lintel is not much of an
ordeal.

But SDS do tend to be quite long, so if you have top-opening lights,
might be tricky to get the drill in.


Drill frame, position frame, make some sort of mark through hole
onto lintel, remove frame, drill hole in lintel, replace frame,
wonder how to tighten screws.... :-D

If I had that problem I would use my small ratchet drive without the
long extensions which I also bought to do another job. :-)


How small is small? And could that equate to weak?

It is a Professional Heavy Duty Quick Release Ratchet Wrench 1/4 Inch
Drive Handle sold on ebay. Certainly strong enough to turn any of the
small bit sets.


Just the screws to grip & turn then!


I have been looking at the existing door and adjacent window wooden
frames. Neither of them has screws going up into the lintel.

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In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam etc infill
provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?
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In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam etc
infill provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?

Two large windows, patio doors and a single ouside door. Simply followed
the instructions. And they've been fine for many a year.

How many have you installed?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam etc
infill provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?

Two large windows, patio doors and a single ouside door. Simply followed
the instructions. And they've been fine for many a year.

How many have you installed?


6 sliding sashes, 7 casements, 3 external doors, oh and a 12m²
conservatory with 2 sets of French windows (& that's just in this
place...) ;-p
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In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam etc
infill provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?

Two large windows, patio doors and a single ouside door. Simply
followed the instructions. And they've been fine for many a year.

How many have you installed?


6 sliding sashes, 7 casements, 3 external doors, oh and a 12m²
conservatory with 2 sets of French windows (& that's just in this
place...) ;-p

And you screwed them all into a concrete lintel? Why?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
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Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would you put a
concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam etc
infill provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?

Two large windows, patio doors and a single ouside door. Simply
followed the instructions. And they've been fine for many a year.

How many have you installed?


6 sliding sashes, 7 casements, 3 external doors, oh and a 12m²
conservatory with 2 sets of French windows (& that's just in this
place...) ;-p

And you screwed them all into a concrete lintel? Why?


And you screwed none of yours into the lintels? Why?
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In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would
you put a concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam
etc infill provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?

Two large windows, patio doors and a single ouside door. Simply
followed the instructions. And they've been fine for many a year.

How many have you installed?


6 sliding sashes, 7 casements, 3 external doors, oh and a 12m²
conservatory with 2 sets of French windows (& that's just in this
place...) ;-p

And you screwed them all into a concrete lintel? Why?


And you screwed none of yours into the lintels? Why?

Who was it that installed then for you?

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In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Jim K.. wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" Wrote in message:
In article ,
Michael Chare wrote:
When installing plastic door frames and windows frames would
you put a concrete screw going up into the lintel?

No real need - and you want to avoid distorting the frame.

Best to lay it on a level bed, and fix to the sides. The foam
etc infill provides the strength.


How many have you fitted?

Two large windows, patio doors and a single ouside door. Simply
followed the instructions. And they've been fine for many a year.

How many have you installed?


6 sliding sashes, 7 casements, 3 external doors, oh and a 12m²
conservatory with 2 sets of French windows (& that's just in this
place...) ;-p

And you screwed them all into a concrete lintel? Why?


And you screwed none of yours into the lintels? Why?

Who was it that installed then for you?


Come again?

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