Mum (88) had a letter from e-on suggesting she would have to have her
meters changed and they would be smart meters, except if she couldn't
have them or didn't want them? ;-)

I'm pretty sure she's not going to start leaving lights on where she
didn't before, or replace the LED / CFL's with incandescent or turn
the heating up to use more gas, even if she found out it wasn't as
expensive as she thought?

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

Cheers, T i m

On 18/10/2018 18:09, T i m wrote:
Mum (88) had a letter from e-on suggesting she would have to have her
meters changed and they would be smart meters, except if she couldn't
have them or didn't want them? ;-)

I'm pretty sure she's not going to start leaving lights on where she
didn't before, or replace the LED / CFL's with incandescent or turn
the heating up to use more gas, even if she found out it wasn't as
expensive as she thought?

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

Cheers, T i m

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise
it will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one
or other of the meters anyway ...

On 18/10/2018 18:09, T i m wrote:
Mum (88) had a letter from e-on suggesting she would have to have her
meters changed and they would be smart meters, except if she couldn't
have them or didn't want them? ;-)

I'm pretty sure she's not going to start leaving lights on where she
didn't before, or replace the LED / CFL's with incandescent or turn
the heating up to use more gas, even if she found out it wasn't as
expensive as she thought?

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

At present, most smart meters installed are generation 1, which are the
ones with the widely reported problems. Generation 2 are supposed to be
the norm by the end of this year, but the deadline has already been put
back once. If you want a smart meter, I would wait until you can be sure
that a generation 2 meter is going to be installed.

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On 18/10/2018 18:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise
it will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be
a meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one
or other of the meters anyway ...


Ofgem abolished in Feb 2016 the obligation to try to check meters every
2 years. We've not had the (indoor) electricity meter read since 2014.

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On 18/10/2018 18:09, T i m wrote:
Mum (88) had a letter from e-on suggesting she would have to have her
meters changed and they would be smart meters, except if she couldn't
have them or didn't want them? ;-)

I'm pretty sure she's not going to start leaving lights on where she
didn't before, or replace the LED / CFL's with incandescent or turn
the heating up to use more gas, even if she found out it wasn't as
expensive as she thought?

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

They are desperately trying to install the last of old bad ones with all
the security flaws in an attempt not to look so far behind schedule. I
wouldn't want to get lumbered with a first generation dumb "smart"
meter. They are potentially a threat to national infrastructure. YMMV

The guy who turned up to do my brother in laws was in and out in flash
because he couldn't get any kind of mobile signal. Odd they don't check
mobile network coverage before offering the service.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Martin Brown wrote:

Odd they don't check mobile network coverage before offering the service.

e.on did ask if I knew whether there was good O2 coverage at the
electricity meter position.

Personally I'd leave it for as longer so possible as many companies have got
them sitting in warehouses and they are the old types. They would just love
to clear the space. The newer ones will, I understand be able to more
readily cope if you change supplier and also be more secure and according to
ofgen, have facilities for talking control boxes.
In the main the companies seem very unaware of the capabilities of the
current or future meters I've found, so hold off.

Brian

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Mum (88) had a letter from e-on suggesting she would have to have her
meters changed and they would be smart meters, except if she couldn't
have them or didn't want them? ;-)

I'm pretty sure she's not going to start leaving lights on where she
didn't before, or replace the LED / CFL's with incandescent or turn
the heating up to use more gas, even if she found out it wasn't as
expensive as she thought?

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

Cheers, T i m

Yes but you can work it out now as I have a password set up with meter
readers.
I myself cannot read the meter, so when its getting near to the time I get
an appointment set up.
Brian

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Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise it
will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one or
other of the meters anyway ...

Yes, but that is only because people can read their own, but many of us are
unable to do this and basing it on estimations is very dangerous when a
reading is finally made.
Brian

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On 18/10/2018 18:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise
it will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one or
other of the meters anyway ...


Ofgem abolished in Feb 2016 the obligation to try to check meters every 2
years. We've not had the (indoor) electricity meter read since 2014.

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reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On 19/10/2018 07:34, Andy Burns wrote:
Martin Brown wrote:

Odd they don't check mobile network coverage before offering the service.

e.on did ask if I knew whether there was good O2 coverage at the
electricity meter position.

I told SSE unequivocally that there was no mobile coverage of any sort
here. They said 'we will take you off the list then'

That is why I now only get two invitations to fit a smart meter every
week, instead of three.


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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

Winston Churchill

On Thursday, 18 October 2018 18:39:51 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
On 18/10/2018 18:09, T i m wrote:
Mum (88) had a letter from e-on suggesting she would have to have her
meters changed and they would be smart meters, except if she couldn't
have them or didn't want them? ;-)

I'm pretty sure she's not going to start leaving lights on where she
didn't before, or replace the LED / CFL's with incandescent or turn
the heating up to use more gas, even if she found out it wasn't as
expensive as she thought?

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

Cheers, T i m

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

Bill

Now they have to call themselves safety inspectors.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:44:10 +0100, Robin wrote:

On 18/10/2018 18:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise
it will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be
a meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one
or other of the meters anyway ...


Ofgem abolished in Feb 2016 the obligation to try to check meters every
2 years. We've not had the (indoor) electricity meter read since 2014.


Maybe but my supplier sent a reader round a couple of weeks ago
(presumably prior to the forthcoming price hike they are introducing).
If the reader had come round to the other door he's have passed the
external meter on the way.

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AnthonyL

On 19/10/2018 12:43, AnthonyL wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:44:10 +0100, Robin wrote:

On 18/10/2018 18:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise
it will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be
a meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one
or other of the meters anyway ...


Ofgem abolished in Feb 2016 the obligation to try to check meters every
2 years. We've not had the (indoor) electricity meter read since 2014.


Maybe but my supplier sent a reader round a couple of weeks ago
(presumably prior to the forthcoming price hike they are introducing).
If the reader had come round to the other door he's have passed the
external meter on the way.


Can the supplier read your (allegedly) smart meter ?

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reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

On 18/10/2018 18:39, Bill Wright wrote:


It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

My late Aunt Lucy (who had already been done over twice this way) let
the third bloke in to read her meter and then locked him in the coal
store [1] before calling the police to report catching a crook.

The nice legal meter reader waited for the police to arrive and let him out.

[1] Bill will not be surprised, but others might, be that the coal store
was inside the house.

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Adam

On Friday, 19 October 2018 19:12:55 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
On 18/10/2018 18:39, Bill Wright wrote:


It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be a
meter reader will be a crook.

My late Aunt Lucy (who had already been done over twice this way) let
the third bloke in to read her meter and then locked him in the coal
store [1] before calling the police to report catching a crook.

The nice legal meter reader waited for the police to arrive and let him out.

[1] Bill will not be surprised, but others might, be that the coal store
was inside the house.

--
Adam

I thought the bath was the traditional coal store up North?
We had a cellar with an iron plate in the pavement.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:08:38 +0100, Robin wrote:

On 19/10/2018 12:43, AnthonyL wrote:
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:44:10 +0100, Robin wrote:

On 18/10/2018 18:43, Andy Burns wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

T i m wrote:

So, where are we on them now ... are they a 'good thing' or likely to
be / stay one, do I ring them up and say 'no thanks' for her?

No guarantee that any that is fitted yet will be portable between
suppliers, if not it may be re-configured to become portable, otherwise
it will get replaced again eventually.

It means she will know that anyone knocking on the door claiming to be
a meter reader will be a crook.

Except every couple of years when they *will* send a human to read one
or other of the meters anyway ...


Ofgem abolished in Feb 2016 the obligation to try to check meters every
2 years. We've not had the (indoor) electricity meter read since 2014.


Maybe but my supplier sent a reader round a couple of weeks ago
(presumably prior to the forthcoming price hike they are introducing).
If the reader had come round to the other door he's have passed the
external meter on the way.


Can the supplier read your (allegedly) smart meter ?


?? - are you responding to the right post?

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AnthonyL