This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:41:01 +0100, TimW wrote:

This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

What about a steam cleaner?

On 04/08/18 15:46, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:41:01 +0100, TimW wrote:

This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

What about a steam cleaner?

ROFLMAO. You have never owned an Aga have you?

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who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
€œWe did this ourselves.€�

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 17:17:33 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 04/08/18 15:46, Scott wrote:
On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:41:01 +0100, TimW wrote:

This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

What about a steam cleaner?

ROFLMAO. You have never owned an Aga have you?

No :-(

"TimW" wrote in message
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This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the enamel
and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating.

Angle Grinder
we have carbon steel frying pans (pub kitchen) and when the underneath gets
caked in burnt on fat thats the only thing that will remove it with a
grinder wire brush

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"Mark" wrote in message news

"TimW" wrote in message
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This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating.

Angle Grinder
we have carbon steel frying pans (pub kitchen) and when the underneath
gets caked in burnt on fat thats the only thing that will remove it with a
grinder wire brush

That’s going to really **** the aga enamel.

On 04/08/18 15:41, TimW wrote:
This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

Scrap it off and then use wet and dry and buff with T-cut.

Or get teh whole top re-enamelled


So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?


Nope. Maybe a blowlamp would work



TW



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On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?



Sodium hydroxide.
Dangerous stuff.
Dunno if you can still buy it these days

You used to be able to buy it in a "jellied" form which you plastered on and left for a couple of hours and then washed off.

"harry" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?



Sodium hydroxide.
Dangerous stuff.
Dunno if you can still buy it these days

Corse you can, as a drain cleaner.

You used to be able to buy it in a "jellied" form which you
plastered on and left for a couple of hours and then washed off.

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 04:58:35 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:


Sodium hydroxide.
Dangerous stuff.
Dunno if you can still buy it these days

Corse you can, as a drain cleaner.

Forcing one of two pints of it down your throat would be the thing to do,
you foul-mouthed senile cretin!

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On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.

Paint scraper

Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

Stovax glass cleaner has been mentioned.

Owain

On 04/08/18 17:25, wrote:
On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:
A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.

Paint scraper

Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

Stovax glass cleaner has been mentioned.

Owain

would nitromors do it?

On 04/08/2018 19:24, TimW wrote:
On 04/08/18 17:25, wrote:
On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimWÂ* wrote:
A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.

Paint scraper

Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

Stovax glass cleaner has been mentioned.

Owain

would nitromors do it?

I don't think even the old Methylene Chloride "Nitromors" will touch the
worst of it. Boiling, strong sodium hydroxide solution probably gives
you the best chance. Not recommended unless you are used to handling
aggressive chemicals.

The lacquers from oxidised oils and greases are *very* chemically
resistant. Otherwise you are down to mechanical methods (wire brush,
sanding disk).

On 04/08/2018 19:35, newshound wrote:
I don't think even the old Methylene Chloride "Nitromors" will touch the
worst of it. Boiling, strong sodium hydroxide solution probably gives
you the best chance. Not recommended unless you are used to handling
aggressive chemicals.

The lacquers from oxidised oils and greases are *very* chemically
resistant. Otherwise you are down to mechanical methods (wire brush,
sanding disk).

Sodium hydroxide, (dangerous, 1 drop in the eye and you are blinded)
I think this is what the `oven cleaner companies` use but in gel form to
avoid splashes.
it would help if the parts concerned could be diassembled and taken
outside and soaked in a tray for an hour.
Available on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hy...wAAOSwc2FaFepm

On 04/08/2018 20:37, ss wrote:
On 04/08/2018 19:35, newshound wrote:
I don't think even the old Methylene Chloride "Nitromors" will touch
the worst of it. Boiling, strong sodium hydroxide solution probably
gives you the best chance. Not recommended unless you are used to
handling aggressive chemicals.

The lacquers from oxidised oils and greases are *very* chemically
resistant. Otherwise you are down to mechanical methods (wire brush,
sanding disk).

Sodium hydroxide, (dangerous, 1 drop in the eye and you are blinded)
I think this is what the `oven cleaner companies` use but in gel form to
avoid splashes.
it would help if the parts concerned could be diassembled and taken
outside and soaked in a tray for an hour.
Available on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hy...wAAOSwc2FaFepm



When were were students, a place we rented had a Baby Belling cooker. It
was pretty grim when we moved in- various oven cleaners didn't really do
the job.

I mixed up some strong NaOH sol., immersed the bits I could, and used a
paint brush to apply the rest- covering it with kitchen roll and cling film.

After maybe and hour, I cleaned it all off and there wasn't a trace of
old grease etc.



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On 04/08/18 20:37, ss wrote:
On 04/08/2018 19:35, newshound wrote:
I don't think even the old Methylene Chloride "Nitromors" will touch
the worst of it. Boiling, strong sodium hydroxide solution probably
gives you the best chance. Not recommended unless you are used to
handling aggressive chemicals.

The lacquers from oxidised oils and greases are *very* chemically
resistant. Otherwise you are down to mechanical methods (wire brush,
sanding disk).

Sodium hydroxide, (dangerous, 1 drop in the eye and you are blinded)
I think this is what the `oven cleaner companies` use but in gel form to
avoid splashes.

Or just buy it as 'caustic soda' at any decent hardware store.



it would help if the parts concerned could be diassembled and taken
outside and soaked in a tray for an hour.
Available on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hy...wAAOSwc2FaFepm



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On 04/08/18 20:37, ss wrote:
On 04/08/2018 19:35, newshound wrote:
I don't think even the old Methylene Chloride "Nitromors" will touch
the worst of it. Boiling, strong sodium hydroxide solution probably
gives you the best chance. Not recommended unless you are used to
handling aggressive chemicals.

The lacquers from oxidised oils and greases are *very* chemically
resistant. Otherwise you are down to mechanical methods (wire brush,
sanding disk).

Sodium hydroxide, (dangerous, 1 drop in the eye and you are blinded)
I think this is what the `oven cleaner companies` use but in gel form to
avoid splashes.
it would help if the parts concerned could be diassembled and taken
outside and soaked in a tray for an hour.
Available on ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-Hy...wAAOSwc2FaFepm

Even sidium hydrxide does not work on this.

I have had an aga for 14 years....


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guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On 04/08/18 19:24, TimW wrote:
On 04/08/18 17:25, wrote:
On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimWÂ* wrote:
A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.

Paint scraper

Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

Stovax glass cleaner has been mentioned.

Owain

would nitromors do it?
nope


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TimW wrote:
This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW



Have you got one of these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/142132759230? Much
better than a blunt knife.

As others have suggested, caustic soda may soften it up.

Tim

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On 04/08/2018 21:45, Tim+ wrote:
TimW wrote:
This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW



Have you got one of these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/142132759230? Much
better than a blunt knife.

But only on reasonably flat surfaces. Great on ceramic hobs, but Aga
hotplates are machined cast iron and the enamelled parts are not
particularly flat.


As others have suggested, caustic soda may soften it up.

Tim

On 04/08/18 21:45, Tim+ wrote:

Have you got one of these? https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/142132759230? Much
better than a blunt knife.


yes, but the blade scratches the enamel.
TW

On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:

This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

I've just been cleaning off kitchen grease today. Tried for the first time what I call public toilet cleaner on it - and it's pretty good. It's what's used industrially for toilets, available from janitorial supplies. Does not smell good.

If you're going to scrape it you need to use plastic, else the enamel will get trashed.

If using caustic I'd brush it onto the heated surface. DO wear eye protection.

Steam cleaners are good for some kitchen grease, certainly not all but it's probably an easy way to make some progress.

Whatever you use may need many soakings. Patience is better than wrecking the finish.


NT

On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 11:53:57 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:

This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

I've just been cleaning off kitchen grease today. Tried for the first time what I call public toilet cleaner on it - and it's pretty good. It's what's used industrially for toilets, available from janitorial supplies. Does not smell good.

If you're going to scrape it you need to use plastic, else the enamel will get trashed.

If using caustic I'd brush it onto the heated surface. DO wear eye protection.

Steam cleaners are good for some kitchen grease, certainly not all but it's probably an easy way to make some progress.

Whatever you use may need many soakings. Patience is better than wrecking the finish.


NT

For badly burned on food in pans I use an abrasive brush in my drill. It is slightly abrasive, it may scratch the enamel. Very quick and effective with the pan.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Nylon...AOSw5IJWb6q 2

There are also angle grinder versions
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/75mm-Nylo...wAAOSwj0RbKnfz

misterroy Wrote in message:
On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 11:53:57 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:41:04 UTC+1, TimW wrote:

This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

I've just been cleaning off kitchen grease today. Tried for the first time what I call public toilet cleaner on it - and it's pretty good. It's what's used industrially for toilets, available from janitorial supplies. Does not smell good.

If you're going to scrape it you need to use plastic, else the enamel will get trashed.

If using caustic I'd brush it onto the heated surface. DO wear eye protection.

Steam cleaners are good for some kitchen grease, certainly not all but it's probably an easy way to make some progress.

Whatever you use may need many soakings. Patience is better than wrecking the finish.


NT

For badly burned on food in pans I use an abrasive brush in my drill. It is slightly abrasive, it may scratch the enamel. Very quick and effective with the pan.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Nylon...AOSw5IJWb6q 2

There are also angle grinder versions
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/75mm-Nylo...wAAOSwj0RbKnfz


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Many years ago, I heard this terrible loud hissing and gurgling from a few
houses away. It was, apparently somebody who took their old trusty cooker
outside and powerwashed it.
I know nothing about the type of cooker you are talking about but for a
start what were the owners thinking not cleaning it for so long, and
secondly can it be dismantled and the bits power washed out in the garden a
bit at a time?
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"TimW" wrote in message
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This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the enamel
and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler places it's
soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right off only on the
very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious. Is
there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

Brian Gaff wrote

Many years ago, I heard this terrible loud hissing and gurgling from a few
houses away. It was, apparently somebody who took their old trusty cooker
outside and powerwashed it.

I know nothing about the type of cooker you are talking about but for a
start what were the owners thinking not cleaning it for so long,

They had enough of a clue to realise that works fine like that.

and secondly can it be dismantled and the bits power washed out in the
garden a bit at a time?

Won't work with an aga with the baked on stuff.

"TimW" wrote in message
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This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right off
only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious. Is
there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 17:50:13 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:


I know nothing about the type of cooker you are talking about but for a
start what were the owners thinking not cleaning it for so long,

They had enough of a clue to realise that works fine like that.

A senile oaf like you shouldn't even use a word like "clue", you clueless
idiot!

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On Sunday, 5 August 2018 08:13:11 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Many years ago, I heard this terrible loud hissing and gurgling from a few
houses away. It was, apparently somebody who took their old trusty cooker
outside and powerwashed it.

That's okay with gas cookers, not so wise for electric ones in case the water gets in the electrics, and definately not recommended for Agas as they're filled with insulation which would get waterlogged.

Owain

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wrote:
On Sunday, 5 August 2018 08:13:11 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Many years ago, I heard this terrible loud hissing and gurgling from a
few houses away. It was, apparently somebody who took their old trusty
cooker outside and powerwashed it.

That's okay with gas cookers, not so wise for electric ones in case the
water gets in the electrics, and definately not recommended for Agas as
they're filled with insulation which would get waterlogged.

Bearing im mind the weight of an AGA, I can't imagine anyone "taking it
outside to wash".

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On Sunday, 5 August 2018 13:43:57 UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, 5 August 2018 08:13:11 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:

Many years ago, I heard this terrible loud hissing and gurgling from a few
houses away. It was, apparently somebody who took their old trusty cooker
outside and powerwashed it.

That's okay with gas cookers, not so wise for electric ones in case the water gets in the electrics, and definately not recommended for Agas as they're filled with insulation which would get waterlogged.

Owain

Every part of an electric oven can be wet washed as long as it's thoroughly dried before reconnection, except motor bearings.


NT

Wrote in message:
On Sunday, 5 August 2018 13:43:57 UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, 5 August 2018 08:13:11 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:

Many years ago, I heard this terrible loud hissing and gurgling from a few
houses away. It was, apparently somebody who took their old trusty cooker
outside and powerwashed it.

That's okay with gas cookers, not so wise for electric ones in case the water gets in the electrics, and definately not recommended for Agas as they're filled with insulation which would get waterlogged.

Owain

Every part of an electric oven can be wet washed as long as it's thoroughly dried before reconnection, except motor bearings.


NT


Presumably from your own experience?
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TimW Wrote in message:
This is an Aga. Years of fat and oil has been oxidised all over the
enamel and chrome parts on the top to make a solid coating. In cooler
places it's soft, very hard where it has been hotter and burned right
off only on the very hot places like the hot plates themselves. How do I
clean it off?

So far tried various 'dissolves grease' cleaning products and green
scourers. Doesn't really work. A blunt table knife seems to remove the
stuff without scratching the enamel too badly but it's very laborious.
Is there a chemical solution? Even to soften it up?

TW

No experience of this phenomenon but... BBQ cleaners? Oven
cleaner aerosol stuff?
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