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On 01/08/18 11:24, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , lid says... Coax is just a bit better up to say a km !!! The average subscriber drop cable is rarely likely to exceed a tenth of that! Given that the signals leave the cabinet with a forward tilt, they won't be far off level across the band at the end. That is much more than 'just a bit better' than God knows how many km of twisted pair. er no. twisted pair from am FTTC cabinet is a lot less than a km gemeraly Dont compare apples and oranges. The issue is whether or nmot FTTC +twisted pair is better or worse than FTTC + coax. -- New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in someone else's pocket. |
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In article , lid
says... Dont compare apples and oranges. The issue is whether or nmot FTTC +twisted pair is better or worse than FTTC + coax. I think it's you who has got his fruit confused - the post I replied to specifically referred to "Line powered ADSL repeaters every 2km". No mention of FTTC and twisted pair -- Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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On 01/08/18 13:18, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , lid says... Dont compare apples and oranges. The issue is whether or nmot FTTC +twisted pair is better or worse than FTTC + coax. I think it's you who has got his fruit confused - the post I replied to specifically referred to "Line powered ADSL repeaters every 2km". No mention of FTTC and twisted pair I ssaid that because someone hads said that teh coax network was better beacuse it had repeaters every few KM I pointed out that that was not restricteted to coax and lartre, taht tha was not how virgins cable system works anyway. Ultimately Virgin and B=T are bnoth mainly FTTC with dedicated VDSL over copper pair to the home, or shared DOCSIS over coax to the home. DOCSIS, being shared, can be a lot slower than its raw speed suggests. VDSL is typically slower as the attenuation of twisted pair us higher than coax. Both carriers offer FTTH at an exhorbitant cost where its not implemented at street cabinet level and the promise of more reasonable prices where it is. BT will sell you a 100mbps internet connection for £400 a month. Over copper based ethernet. -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage." |
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On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:20:52 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote:
On 01/08/2018 11:17, Terry Casey wrote: In article , johnny-b- says... On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:33:30 +0100, Terry Casey wrote: Strange - it only seems a very short while ago that we were rolling out our initial 600bps broadband product in competition with 56kbs dial-up! Typo? ITYM 600Kbps broadband service. :-) Oops! Yes, 600kbps. I *well* remember the time when NTL used the 'harmonisation' of the 128Kbps service to 150Kbps (quarter the speed of the 600Kbps which had formerly been 512Kbps) to squeeze a disproportionate (exhorbitant!) 3 quid increase over the 15 quid a month I'd formerly been paying. We were Bell Cable Media at the time (later Cable & Wieless Communications) and didn't offer a lower speed than 600kbps Mind you, during the past 15 years or so, that same basic 150Kbps service has now morphed via several free speed upgrades into an 85Mbps service (only a paltry 5Mbps upload speed though) I've never had the need for blisteringly fast upload speeds and I doubt that the average user does, either. As more and more people are using NAS boxes and may want to remotely access files or are storing things in the Cloud, upload speed is becoming more important. Especially useful for remote backup. SteveW And for uploading to youtube, that takes me quite a time when I need to do it. wish I could get a bit more speed for uploading. |
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:20:52 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote: On 01/08/2018 11:17, Terry Casey wrote: In article , johnny-b- says... On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:33:30 +0100, Terry Casey wrote: Strange - it only seems a very short while ago that we were rolling out our initial 600bps broadband product in competition with 56kbs dial-up! Typo? ITYM 600Kbps broadband service. :-) Oops! Yes, 600kbps. I *well* remember the time when NTL used the 'harmonisation' of the 128Kbps service to 150Kbps (quarter the speed of the 600Kbps which had formerly been 512Kbps) to squeeze a disproportionate (exhorbitant!) 3 quid increase over the 15 quid a month I'd formerly been paying. We were Bell Cable Media at the time (later Cable & Wieless Communications) and didn't offer a lower speed than 600kbps Mind you, during the past 15 years or so, that same basic 150Kbps service has now morphed via several free speed upgrades into an 85Mbps service (only a paltry 5Mbps upload speed though) I've never had the need for blisteringly fast upload speeds and I doubt that the average user does, either. As more and more people are using NAS boxes and may want to remotely access files or are storing things in the Cloud, upload speed is becoming more important. Especially useful for remote backup. SteveW And for uploading to youtube, that takes me quite a time when I need to do it. wish I could get a bit more speed for uploading. VDLS2 or FTTP will do that. I went from 1 to 54Mbps when I went from adsl2+ |
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In article 34e76f56-997a-45e9-8ac0-c7f292f95bc8
@googlegroups.com, says... On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:20:52 UTC+1, Steve Walker wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 16:33:30 +0100, Terry Casey wrote: I've never had the need for blisteringly fast upload speeds and I doubt that the average user does, either. As more and more people are using NAS boxes and may want to remotely access files or are storing things in the Cloud, upload speed is becoming more important. Especially useful for remote backup. SteveW And for uploading to youtube, that takes me quite a time when I need to do it. wish I could get a bit more speed for uploading. Just how much stuff are you uploading to youtube that speeds of 5 - 10Mbps (the range of speeds being discussed) aren't good enough for you? -- Terry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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