I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

Bizarrely, she said I could get it changed in October. I suggested
this was perhaps a reason for refusing now!

On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:14:14 +0100, Scott
wrote:

I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

The worse that could happen if you changed supplier is that the meter
would have to be read manually, by you probably.
Someone, on here I think, said that they changed supplier and that
after a month or two the new supplier was able to take readings from
the existing smart meter over the air.

Don't do it. I gather there are a lot of old meters with duff software they
are trying to get shot of on unsuspecting people. I do not know the problems
with them, but I'd bet they do.
Brian

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I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

Bizarrely, she said I could get it changed in October. I suggested
this was perhaps a reason for refusing now!

Was there not a problem with insecure data though?
Brian

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On Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:14:14 +0100, Scott
wrote:

I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

The worse that could happen if you changed supplier is that the meter
would have to be read manually, by you probably.
Someone, on here I think, said that they changed supplier and that
after a month or two the new supplier was able to take readings from
the existing smart meter over the air.

On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 18:21:58 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Don't do it. I gather there are a lot of old meters with duff software they
are trying to get shot of on unsuspecting people. I do not know the problems
with them, but I'd bet they do.
Brian

Thanks. I have said I am opting out.

On 02/07/2018 15:14, Scott wrote:
I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

She's categorically... wrong. A SMETS1 installed by one suppler cannot
necessarily be read by every other supplier.

Bizarrely, she said I could get it changed in October. I suggested
this was perhaps a reason for refusing now!

SMETS2 are supposed to be coming on-stream in October...

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In article ,
F news@nowhere writes:
On 02/07/2018 15:14, Scott wrote:
I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

She's categorically... wrong. A SMETS1 installed by one suppler cannot
necessarily be read by every other supplier.

There's an attempt to get around this by putting the SMETS1
meters on a common network (rather than each suppliers' own
network as is currently done), but it has failed to go live many
times.

It also looks like an excuse not to upgrade the SMETS1 meters
to SMETS2, which was the industry's original intention, although
many of those who worked on SMETS1 have stated the meters simply
don't have the compute capacity to have a firmware upgrade to
SMETS2, and no one has figured out who was going to pay for the
upgrades - there's no money budgeted for it.

Bizarrely, she said I could get it changed in October. I suggested
this was perhaps a reason for refusing now!

There's no money to upgrade or replace the SMETS1 meters.

SMETS2 are supposed to be coming on-stream in October...

That is the most recent claim I've heard too, but it's far
from the first, and the others are all in the past.

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On 04/07/2018 22:19, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
F news@nowhere writes:
On 02/07/2018 15:14, Scott wrote:
I have just had (another) call from installers working on behalf of my
energy supplier offering me a Smart meter, despite my earlier refusal.

The proposal is to install SMETS1. She says there is no fundamental
difference between SMETS1 and SMETS2 except SMETS2 has a better
booster for weak mobile signals. I said that Which magazine had said
there could be problems in switching supplier. She said this was
categorically untrue. Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

She's categorically... wrong. A SMETS1 installed by one suppler cannot
necessarily be read by every other supplier.

There's an attempt to get around this by putting the SMETS1
meters on a common network (rather than each suppliers' own
network as is currently done), but it has failed to go live many
times.

Ah, thanks. I hadn't heard that.

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