How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

It's rubbish collection day today and I note that my household and my 4
nearest houses on my side of the street put out a total of 6 general
rubbish sacks and 7 recycling sacks.

The 5 houses opposite put out 24 general rubbish sacks and 10 recycling
sacks (one household seems never to split rubbish for recycling).

The number of people on each side of this portion of the street is
nominally the same and the ratio of rubbish between the two sides of the
street is about the same every week and it's not just one household
making up the large difference in waste.

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alan_m wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

What's average?

I have a 240l recycling wheelie bin and a 120l rubbish wheelie bin, the
former is generally getting 'fullish' after 3 weeks, the latter is
generally only half full by that point, but I put them both out together
every 3 or 4 weeks.

Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due to
alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might bother
larger households.

On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due to
alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might bother
larger households.

The alternate week scheme operates here (with a green garden/food waste
bin collected every week). It seems to work for the vast majority. ISTR
the council can supply a larger general waste bin if required[1], but I
see very few of them about.

[1] Although I don't know what hoops need to be jumped through for those
- so it might just be they make the process so onerous that few can be
bothered!

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John Rumm wrote:

the council can supply a larger general waste bin if required[1], but I
see very few of them about.
[1] Although I don't know what hoops need to be jumped through for those

With the announcement of alternating collections, they have introduced a
charge for larger bins.

As soon as they started their consultation on changes, I swapped to a
larger recycling bin as there was no charge at that time ... and it was
fairly obvious the way the "consultation" was going to go

On 23/03/2018 11:39, John Rumm wrote:
ISTR
the council can supply a larger general waste bin if required[1], but I
see very few of them about.

[1] Although I don't know what hoops need to be jumped through for those
- so it might just be they make the process so onerous that few can be
bothered!

We have the larger bins. Initially it was just the general waste bin as
youngest son has special needs and learning difficulties and is still on
nappies at night. When the re-cycling uplift was introduced we were to
use the general waste bin as the recycling one and got a new (still
large) bin for landfill.

Getting the larger bins was easy all we did was write to the council
(can't remember if we did it or one of the 'carer charities') following
that we had a visit from some council employee to ensure we were
eligible . This was an at the door interview which lasted all of 15
secs (perhaps they were just ensuring we did exist). Can't remember but
don't think at anytime we had to provide proof.
IF one of the 'Carer charities' had contacted them perhaps that was
taken as the proof required .


The initial 'bin getting' was a long time ago so memories are a bit hazy
Oh this is for Edinburgh city council, any other council, YMMV

On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due to
alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might bother
larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra £40
a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

SteveW

On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due
to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might
bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra £40
a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

SteveW

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

No idea, but SteveW was talking about a 240l grey bin,I.E
non recyclable (landfill)

Grey NOT green

On 24/03/2018 10:59, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

SteveW

What sort of people discard 240 litres of food waste every week ?.

None. However the green bin is sized to allow for garden waste (if you
pay the extra fee). Even if you put very little in, it is worth putting
it out most weeks so as to avoid the smell of rotting food.

SteveW

On 23/03/18 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I choose
to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections are due
to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year ... might
bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra £40
a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

On 24/03/2018 11:05, Richard wrote:

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

See....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkj7gZmuuhU


Around my way
Black bag for general waste (landfill) - buy your own bags

Pink bag for mixed recycled waste - bags supplied by council

Small container for food waste - container and small biodegradable
lining bags supplied by council

Large container for paper - council supplied
Broken down card also collected.

White bags for recycled clothing which are often never collected so the
next week they get stuffed into the black bags. I see very few white
bags being put out these days.


A generalised observation:
Around 1 in 20 put out a food waste container. If the wind is blowing
many of these emptied containers will end up elsewhere!
Many people seem to leave their paper waste until the containers are
full so perhaps 1 in 6 have these containers are put out for any one
collection.

Garden waste is an optional, additional, paid for service at around £50
a year and buy your own wheelie bin from the contractor (£30) or
alternatively put your garden waste into a pre-paid branded bag at
around 65p a time.

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For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

New Forest by any chance? If not they follow the same system.
It seems a strange choice for an area that has lot of wildlife and though
parish councils and others
request that bags are not put out the night before that is awkward for
people who are busy leaving for work around dawn. You can tell it has been
collection day by the trail of detritus along the route that has escaped
from damaged bags.

OTOH it is a simple system and I like that both bags get collected on the
same morning , they use two carts running together with a the crew from
one walking ahead and accumulating individual households bags into larger
piles which reduces the number of vehicle stops.
My mothers council collects different types weekly on two consecutive days
with a third stream fortnightly on a third consecutive day. Every flaming
day it seems you have to put something out and for a good part of the week
empty boxes are parading up and down the place in the wind till the
householders get home, Mother has a high proportion of neighbours who teach
at a nearby private school. Ignorant sods who may be good at Maths or
Sports but lack the common sense that if you leave your recycling box
outside the front door all week
and start filling it there then the wind is going to chuck the rubbish all
over the street and your box is going to follow it. Ive given up asking
them not to do it but they are teachers and consider themselves above such
things. now on my visits if their box is wedged under my car or in mothers
gateway I remove it to here 3 Counties away. The missus grows plants in
them to replant elsewhere.

NFDC collections are weekly at the moment, apparently a year or two ago
some funding became available for some authorities to reinstate more
frequent collections, NFDC was still weekly so was allowed to use the funds
to give households glass* collection boxes which are collected monthly.
Its taken a couple of years for many including me to get into the habit of
putting it out but most seem to do so now.

GH

On 24/03/18 11:57, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Richard
wrote:

On 23/03/18 13:46, Steve Walker wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks

At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:

Green bin, 240l - food waste (plus garden waste if you pay an extra
£40 a year) - collected weekly.

Grey bin, 120l - non-recyclable waste - collected fortnightly.

Blue bin, 240l - carboard and paper - collected monthly.

Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Leading to the green bin, plus one other, being collected every week.

For households with 5 or more residents, a 240l grey bin can be
requested instead of the 120l one. Additional blue and black bins can
also be requested.

That makes our black bag for general waste and clear recycle bag seem
overly complicated.

I'm glad we have bins and no longer bags. That was a major improvement
(foxes have already been mentioned).

Put the bags out in the morning. Only takes one week for any newcomer to
realise that after their garbage has been dragged out of the bag for all
to see.

Steve Walker posted
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks
At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
choose to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due to alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might bother larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope with
larger housholds.

Our normal system is:
....
Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Cans and bottles collected *monthly*?

Glad they don't do that here. By the time they took the empties away
you'd need a JCB to get in our front door.

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On 29/03/18 17:21, Handsome Jack wrote:
Steve Walker posted
On 23/03/2018 10:45, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:

The recycling bin goes out every two weeks
Â*At the moment we get weekly collections of both wheelie bins (I
chooseÂ* to put them out less frequently) but I gather the collections
are due toÂ* alternate between recycling and rubbish later this year
... might botherÂ* larger households.

If it is anything like where we are, they'll have a system to cope
with larger housholds.

Our normal system is:
...
Black bin, 240l - plastic bottles, tins, cans and glass bottles -
collected monthly.

Cans and bottles collected *monthly*?

Glad they don't do that here. By the time they took the empties away
you'd need a JCB to get in our front door.

Well here I effectively get plastic and cans collected at best monthly.
Cos I can't be arsed to weaste tax money on collecting a quarter full bin.


Bottles go to the bottle bank

The nearest one is just 'mixed glass' but if I drive 4 miles I can have
a choic of white and colored brown or green...

There is nowhere for the blue bombay gin bottles to go so I just throw
those in the garden of a local Green :-)

Well I would if there were any

Its all complet bollox as everybidy knwos, except millenial snowflajes
- its just virtyue signalling 'eco ' legislation.

I reality the most effective way to recycle is to picvk off amnything
oif enugh value to justifdyu te picking or odf enough posoi9on to
justify it, and then incinerate the lot at very high temperaites in a
flues scrubbed power staion, hopefully sited somwehere where the hot
water can be used to do somethjingg more useful than make fish cosy.

Then use the ash as fertiliser, or bury it.




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On 23/03/2018 10:29, alan_m wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

It's rubbish collection day today and I note that my household and my 4
nearest houses on my side of the street put out a total of 6 general
rubbish sacks and 7 recycling sacks.

The 5 houses opposite put out 24 general rubbish sacks and 10 recycling
sacks (one household seems never to split rubbish for recycling).

The number of people on each side of this portion of the street is
nominally the same and the ratio of rubbish between the two sides of the
street is about the same every week and it's not just one household
making up the large difference in waste.


I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like peelings,
etc.

On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 2:48:59 PM UTC, dennis@home wrote:
On 23/03/2018 10:29, alan_m wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

Our council used to collect rubbish AND recycling each week.

They recently wrote to tell us that Weekly collections would continue (Hurrah!)

One week they would collect rubbish, the next they would collect recycling!

I suspect we are going to start using the tip more.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 14:48:57 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 23/03/2018 10:29, alan_m wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

It's rubbish collection day today and I note that my household and my 4
nearest houses on my side of the street put out a total of 6 general
rubbish sacks and 7 recycling sacks.

The 5 houses opposite put out 24 general rubbish sacks and 10 recycling
sacks (one household seems never to split rubbish for recycling).

The number of people on each side of this portion of the street is
nominally the same and the ratio of rubbish between the two sides of
the street is about the same every week and it's not just one household
making up the large difference in waste.


I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like peelings,
etc.

Similar here. Household of 5, three of which are in early 20s and a bit
wasteful - I have to nag them about recycling.

360l landfill bin, on average nearly full avery 2 weeks, so about 170l a
week.

150l cardboard/paper bin, about 50l a week I guess.

150l tin/plastic/etc bin, about 70l a week.

Small food waste bin, probably 10l a week.



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On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 18:13:54 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 14:48:57 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 23/03/2018 10:29, alan_m wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

It's rubbish collection day today and I note that my household and my
4 nearest houses on my side of the street put out a total of 6 general
rubbish sacks and 7 recycling sacks.

The 5 houses opposite put out 24 general rubbish sacks and 10
recycling sacks (one household seems never to split rubbish for
recycling).

The number of people on each side of this portion of the street is
nominally the same and the ratio of rubbish between the two sides of
the street is about the same every week and it's not just one
household making up the large difference in waste.


I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like
peelings,
etc.

Similar here. Household of 5, three of which are in early 20s and a bit
wasteful - I have to nag them about recycling.

360l landfill bin, on average nearly full avery 2 weeks, so about 170l a
week.

150l cardboard/paper bin, about 50l a week I guess.

150l tin/plastic/etc bin, about 70l a week.

Small food waste bin, probably 10l a week.

Just looked; the 150l ones aren't; they are 240l.

So 100l cardboard/week, 110l tin/plastic/etc a week.



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On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:

I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like peelings,
etc.



Every one has different recycling bins depending on where they live.

I have 4 wheelie bins and supposedly one bag (due to be phased out as
they blow away).

I have no food recycle bin.



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On 24/03/18 06:15, ARW wrote:
On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:

I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like
peelings, etc.



Every one has different recycling bins depending on where they live.

I have 4 wheelie bins and supposedly one bag (due to be phased out as
they blow away).

I have no food recycle bin.



Dennis is as usual socially oppressive.

I have two bins, plastics and metal, and everything else.

I dont even bother putting them out every other week, so in fact each
one gets emptied once a month.




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On 24/03/2018 06:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/03/18 06:15, ARW wrote:
On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:

I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like
peelings, etc.



Every one has different recycling bins depending on where they live.

I have 4 wheelie bins and supposedly one bag (due to be phased out as
they blow away).

I have no food recycle bin.



Dennis is as usual socially oppressive.

More cr@p from TNP.
I now think everything TNP says is cr@p and probably lies apart from his
insults. A total arsehole in every way.

All I said is what I do and made no mention of others.
We all know that different councils do different things, even my council
does different things in some areas of the borough.

On 24/03/2018 16:16, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/03/2018 06:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/03/18 06:15, ARW wrote:
On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:

I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like
peelings, etc.



Every one has different recycling bins depending on where they live.

I have 4 wheelie bins and supposedly one bag (due to be phased out as
they blow away).

I have no food recycle bin.



Dennis is as usual socially oppressive.

More cr@p from TNP.
I now think everything TNP says is cr@p and probably lies apart from his
insults. A total arsehole in every way.

All I said is what I do and made no mention of others.
We all know that different councils do different things, even my council
does different things in some areas of the borough.


TBH in this case I cannot find a reason to call you a ****

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On 24/03/2018 06:15, ARW wrote:
On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:

I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

The smaller landfill bin is about 25% full after a week.

The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like
peelings, etc.



Every one has different recycling bins depending on where they live.

There also seems to be quite a variation in what classifications of
stuff each bin will take. Our recyclables bin is quite flexible - glass,
plastic, card, paper, tins etc. It now takes the bulk of the stuff that
gets put out. (when the scheme first started they could not handle
things like window envelopes, but now apparently those are ok as well).


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On 3/24/2018 12:39 PM, John Rumm wrote:

There also seems to be quite a variation in what classifications of
stuff each bin will take. Our recyclables bin is quite flexible - glass,
plastic, card, paper, tins etc. It now takes the bulk of the stuff that
gets put out. (when the scheme first started they could not handle
things like window envelopes, but now apparently those are ok as well).

We have just two bins - one for landfill, the other for paper, tins, and
plastic. Alternate week pickup.

Most other stuff has to be taken to the local recycling place.
The council will pick up a maximum of three large items, booked and paid
in advance - freezers, furniture, etc. Last time I used that service it
cost about GBP17.

No garden waste bins, but it's a rural area and most people have compost
bins/piles.

On 24/03/18 18:42, S Viemeister wrote:
On 3/24/2018 12:39 PM, John Rumm wrote:

There also seems to be quite a variation in what classifications of
stuff each bin will take. Our recyclables bin is quite flexible -
glass, plastic, card, paper, tins etc. It now takes the bulk of the
stuff that gets put out. (when the scheme first started they could not
handle things like window envelopes, but now apparently those are ok
as well).

We have just two bins - one for landfill, the other for paper, tins, and
plastic. Alternate week pickup.

Most other stuff has to be taken to the local recycling place.
The council will pick up a maximum of three large items, booked and paid
in advance - freezers, furniture, etc. Last time I used that service it
cost about GBP17.

No garden waste bins, but it's a rural area and most people have compost
bins/piles.


Bins preferred. Piles are a pain in the arse.

On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:
The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like peelings,
etc.

Bonkers !. Are you running a business and putting trade waste
in domestic bins ?.

Most food waste is not food waste. Uncooked vegetable peelings
and trimmings are compostable, if not actually edible if a bit
of thought was used.

The best part of thr potato is in the peel, why discard it ?.

On 24/03/2018 11:03, Andrew wrote:
On 23/03/2018 14:48, dennis@home wrote:
The food waste bin is full most weeks. It really is waste like
peelings, etc.

Bonkers !. Are you running a business and putting trade waste
in domestic bins ?.

Most food waste is not food waste. Uncooked vegetable peelings
and trimmings are compostable, if not actually edible if a bit
of thought was used.

The best part of thr potato is in the peel, why discard it ?.

I don't eat cauliflower stalks, the greens of the carrots, chicken
bones, etc. even if you do.

I have three compost bins but I usually fill them with leaves from the
trees and they take months to compost so the food waste gets composted
by the council.

On 24/03/2018 16:19, dennis@home wrote:
I don't eat cauliflower stalks, the greens of the carrots, chicken
bones, etc.Â* even if you do.

The first two are compostible. Bones, fat, meat remnants and
other stuff of animal or fowl origin cannot be composted. This is
why pig farmers no longer collect 'swill' from schools. The possibility
of another foot-and-mouth outbreak is ominous. This sort of food
waste must go to landfill.

Unless you grow your own carrots (which means you have space for a
compost heap or bin anyway), where are these 'greens of carrots' coming
from ?. You only need to chop off the top 1/4 inch. How can you
end up with 240 litres a week ?.

On 25/03/2018 11:03, Andrew wrote:
On 24/03/2018 16:19, dennis@home wrote:
I don't eat cauliflower stalks, the greens of the carrots, chicken
bones, etc.Â* even if you do.

The first two are compostible. Bones,

Ground up heat treated bone is commonly applied to gardens.

fat, meat remnants and
other stuff of animal or fowl origin cannot be composted.

I once watched a TV program where the commercial company claimed that
could almost compost anything organic from the food industry. The
programmed showed their operation where one heap was the waste from
chicken processing including feathers. They had gigantic heaps on the
runway of a disused airport and the heaps were turned and mixed with the
help of bulldozers.

In council collections the food waste (including all the things you
believe cannot be composted) does not go to landfill.
My council states:



This is
why pig farmers no longer collect 'swill' from schools. The possibility
of another foot-and-mouth outbreak is ominous. This sort of food
waste must go to landfill.

Unable to compost is not the reason. I believe that this type of waste
cannot be guaranteed to have been heat treated to the required high
temperatures and it's not economic to do this on a small scale.


Unless you grow your own carrots (which means you have space for a
compost heap or bin anyway), where are these 'greens of carrots' coming
from ? You only need to chop off the top 1/4 inch. How can you
end up with 240 litres a week ?.


Some people don't buy their carrots pre-packed in a supermarket and even
then some "organic" branded carrots sold in supermarkets often are sold
with the leaves.

I was lead to believe that many root vegetables had a longer
shelf/storage life with the greenery removed as once picked the dying
leaves suck moisture from the root.



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On 25/03/2018 11:03, Andrew wrote:
On 24/03/2018 16:19, dennis@home wrote:
I don't eat cauliflower stalks, the greens of the carrots, chicken
bones, etc. even if you do.

The first two are compostible. Bones, fat, meat remnants and
other stuff of animal or fowl origin cannot be composted. This is
why pig farmers no longer collect 'swill' from schools. The possibility
of another foot-and-mouth outbreak is ominous. This sort of food
waste must go to landfill.

In our area they *do* collect that kind of waste with all the other
compostable waste.

Unless you grow your own carrots (which means you have space for a
compost heap or bin anyway), where are these 'greens of carrots' coming
from ?. You only need to chop off the top 1/4 inch. How can you
end up with 240 litres a week ?.

I thought he said the recycling bin was 240L, not the food waste one...

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On 23/03/2018 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:


All our peelings and bits of veg get composted.

+1

It's only
bones/eggshells etc that go in the food waste bin.

Why not compost egg shells - they just break down into small pieces and
disappear.


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alan_m wrote:

On 23/03/2018 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:


All our peelings and bits of veg get composted.

+1

It's only
bones/eggshells etc that go in the food waste bin.

Why not compost egg shells - they just break down into small pieces and
disappear.

In the mean time (unless washed - which is unlikely) they provide a nice
snack for rats. This is a direct observation using an infra red camera.
Avocado skins are also popular. I have no evidence, only suspicion, re
potato peelings.

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Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Roger Hayter
wrote:

alan_m wrote:

On 23/03/2018 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:

All our peelings and bits of veg get composted.

+1

It's only
bones/eggshells etc that go in the food waste bin.

Why not compost egg shells - they just break down into small pieces and
disappear.

In the mean time (unless washed - which is unlikely) they provide a nice
snack for rats. This is a direct observation using an infra red camera.
Avocado skins are also popular. I have no evidence, only suspicion, re
potato peelings.

The bones and eggshells are wrapped in newspaper as requested and are
in a small bin with a locked lid.
Quite so. But someone suggested composting them.


And rats can't get into the compost bins.

That's what I thought!


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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Roger Hayter
wrote:

Tim Streater wrote:


Why not compost egg shells -

The bones and eggshells are wrapped in newspaper as requested and are
in a small bin with a locked lid.
Quite so. But someone suggested composting them.

Presumably SWMBO has tried that.


According to my other half eggshells will only get broken down efficiently
in a compost bin/heap if you are prepared to pulverise them into really
small fragments first.
Something to do with the ability of worms to ingest material to digest it,
their mouths dont have teeth so all matter has to be soft or small enough
to be drawn in by the mouth muscles .
Eggshells just broken in half and chucked in the compost are just too
large.

GH

On 23/03/2018 15:30, Tim Streater wrote:


I frequently fill the 240l recycling bin every week.

It's all those cider tinnies Den! :-)

It comes in bottles. 8-)

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 10:29:51 +0000
alan_m wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

We (2) have three 240 litre wheelie bins, for landfill, mixed recycling,
and garden waste. They're collected every two weeks. If I forget to
put a bin out we can normally last until the next collection, so that
would be one bin-full per month, although I do occasionally need to
jump on top to pack everything in. It's easy to reduce the recycling
volume just by cutting up plastic bottles, and putting all the
flattened cardboard neatly together, but we've not had to do that
since we got a bin (rather than a crate) for recycling.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 17:44:53 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article 20180323171952.28dbae82@Mars, Rob Morley
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 10:29:51 +0000 alan_m
wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

We (2) have three 240 litre wheelie bins, for landfill, mixed recycling,
and garden waste. They're collected every two weeks. If I forget to
put a bin out we can normally last until the next collection, so that
would be one bin-full per month, although I do occasionally need to jump
on top to pack everything in. It's easy to reduce the recycling volume
just by cutting up plastic bottles ...

I'm sure I saw an article in the Times asking us not to do that, because
it confuses the separation machine at the recyclers. I was flattening
the bottles until I saw that, so I could get more into the kitchen
recycle bins (before emptying those into the wheelie bins).

I flatten the bottles so that I can get more into the wheelie bin! The
young 'uns generate a lot of those.

I've just ordered an aluminium bottle for carrying water. Or, as it says
on it, a "DHMO containment unit".



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On 23/03/2018 18:18, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 17:44:53 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article 20180323171952.28dbae82@Mars, Rob Morley
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 10:29:51 +0000 alan_m
wrote:

How much rubbish for collection does the average household generate?

We (2) have three 240 litre wheelie bins, for landfill, mixed recycling,
and garden waste. They're collected every two weeks. If I forget to
put a bin out we can normally last until the next collection, so that
would be one bin-full per month, although I do occasionally need to jump
on top to pack everything in. It's easy to reduce the recycling volume
just by cutting up plastic bottles ...

I'm sure I saw an article in the Times asking us not to do that, because
it confuses the separation machine at the recyclers. I was flattening
the bottles until I saw that, so I could get more into the kitchen
recycle bins (before emptying those into the wheelie bins).

I flatten the bottles so that I can get more into the wheelie bin! The
young 'uns generate a lot of those.

I've just ordered an aluminium bottle for carrying water. Or, as it says
on it, a "DHMO containment unit".



They also double up as hot water bottles in winter. Fill with almost
boiling water and put inside a thick hiking sock.