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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are
stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html |
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On Jan 7, 11:01*pm, sam bruno wrote:
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF =http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what?http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html Don't use 3-in-1 oil for the trumpet valves, its to thick and they will rise slowly. You need a very light oil, very thin. Have any hair clipper oil? If the child dosen't need to practice b4 going back to school, it's probably easiest to wait untill band class and borrow from another. |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 householdoil work)?
sam bruno wrote: School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html Hi, I am a bass player al y life. Use WD-40 to loosen up the pistons(;et WD40 sip down) And I use Blue Juice for lube. When I don't play for long term. I pull all the pistons out. Good luck. |
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On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:01:08 -0800, sam bruno
wrote: School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html A few drops of dishsoap in pure water. Palmolive. |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 householdoil work)?
sam bruno wrote:
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html If they are stuck, use a penetrating oil like WD-40. Then pull them out and clean them. Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too. -Bob |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:01:08 -0800, sam bruno wrote:
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute. |
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:03:28 -0600, Michael Dobony wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 20:01:08 -0800, sam bruno wrote: School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute. Also try posting to alt.audio.pro.live-sound. They are mostly sound techs, but many are also musicians and can give a better answer. |
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Anything can be fixed with duct tape or WD-40.
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On 2012-01-08, zxcvbob wrote:
If they are stuck, use a penetrating oil like WD-40. Then pull them out and clean them. Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too. All these threads for all these years and ppl are still claiming wd40 is an oil. Now it's a penetrating oil! Shame on you, Bob. Also, baby oil (mineral) and 3-in-1 are not light oils. TO OP: What!? You can post on usenet but can't buy some valve oil online? GTFOH!! nb -- vi --the root of evil |
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On 2012-01-08, Joe keane wrote:
Anything can be fixed with duct tape or WD-40. Yet another cretin. GTFOH! nb -- vi --the root of evil |
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Some years ago, I lubed a boy's bicycle chain with the cheap silicone lube
from Walmart. Popular Mechancis brand, in the black can. Shortly after that, the boy and his family went home out of state. A couple days later, I heard from his Aunt Agnes (who lives near me), the bike chain locked up. From what I can guess, the walmart house brand is all solvent, and not much lube. By that time, the bike was 200 miles away, and I couldn't do anything for him. We were all very sad. Snap brand silicone from Advance Auto is more pricey, but works well for me. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... Or, go to Walmart and buy some silicone lube in a spray can. It's made for auto and home use, and it stays on the item and is thin. |
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We just had a long thread on electric motor oil. Maybe same for musical
insturment valves, ND-20? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Michael Dobony" wrote in message ... I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute. |
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Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been
evoked and called forth from the spirit world, someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate "is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for. Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old, Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate must continue to eternity. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "notbob" wrote in message ... On 2012-01-08, zxcvbob wrote: If they are stuck, use a penetrating oil like WD-40. Then pull them out and clean them. Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too. All these threads for all these years and ppl are still claiming wd40 is an oil. Now it's a penetrating oil! Shame on you, Bob. Also, baby oil (mineral) and 3-in-1 are not light oils. TO OP: What!? You can post on usenet but can't buy some valve oil online? GTFOH!! nb -- vi --the root of evil |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
On Jan 7, 11:01*pm, sam bruno wrote:
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF =http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what?http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html Absolutely NO . The closest thing to trumpet oil is probably kerosene. But I wouldnt reccomend that either. I have used a little diswashing detergent and water in a pinch. Unless he absolutely needs it before school I wouldnt do anything . Wait till he gets to school and borrow some. Jimmie |
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On Jan 8, 4:01*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been evoked and called forth from the spirit world, someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate "is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for. Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old, Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with WD-40. Web *pages abound, and are on topic for the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate must continue to eternity. The word is "invoke". Silicone in a spray is grease thinned with solvent. In a pinch I would use mineral oil. |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the
teacher deal with it. The teacher will have better chance of fixing, and not breaking some thing. I remember being in 4th grade, and my teacher Mr. Orgar, telling horror stories of fixes at home. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "JIMMIE" wrote in message ... Absolutely NO . The closest thing to trumpet oil is probably kerosene. But I wouldnt reccomend that either. I have used a little diswashing detergent and water in a pinch. Unless he absolutely needs it before school I wouldnt do anything . Wait till he gets to school and borrow some. Jimmie |
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Oh, thanks. I'll try and remember to change that
in my text file. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Bob_Villa" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 4:01 pm, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been evoked and called forth from the spirit world, someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate "is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for. Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old, Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate must continue to eternity. The word is "invoke". Silicone in a spray is grease thinned with solvent. In a pinch I would use mineral oil. |
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notbob wrote:
On 2012-01-08, zxcvbob wrote: If they are stuck, use a penetrating oil like WD-40. Then pull them out and clean them. Then I'd probably use baby oil for lube. But 3-in-1 oil is fine too. All these threads for all these years and ppl are still claiming wd40 is an oil. Now it's a penetrating oil! Shame on you, Bob. Also, baby oil (mineral) and 3-in-1 are not light oils. TO OP: What!? You can post on usenet but can't buy some valve oil online? GTFOH!! nb I know what WD-40 is. It should work fine to unstick a valve. Then take it apart and clean the stuff out before it dries. 3-in-1 is a light oil. Lighter than WD-40, but without the solvents. I did misuse the term "penetrating oil", but it *will* penetrate better than sewing machine oil (because of the volatile solvents) if they can't work the valve. -Bob |
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the teacher deal with it. To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended up running an unexpected experiment using your advice. First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked (the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play properly. For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in the end for the valve rises slowly. On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but it wouldn't rise without force. So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented the yellow school bus yet?) Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! |
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I've used WD40 on a trumpet and it worked fine, at least for a one
hour practise session. I have no idea how it would do long term. Valve oil is pretty cheap at any music store. That's for the valves. Don't forget there are slides, probably four of them, and they all have to work to play in tune. I use lanolin on these, probably vaseline works too. Don't put oil on a chain. Use wax, there is a special wax from the bike stores that is much better. Airgun shooters put it on their pellets. |
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In article , sam bruno wrote:
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. Don't have anything to add, but I played French Horn as a kid in the 50's. I still have half a bottle of valve oil sitting on the shelf. (I hate to throw stuff out.) For those who don't know about this stuff, it's amazingly thin; I think it makes water look viscous. Art |
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:40:14 -0800, sam bruno
wrote: On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the teacher deal with it. To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended up running an unexpected experiment using your advice. First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked (the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play properly. For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in the end for the valve rises slowly. On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but it wouldn't rise without force. So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented the yellow school bus yet?) Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! Both the Glycerine and the dish soap need to be EXTENSIVELY diluted with clean water...... |
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On 2012-01-09, sam bruno wrote:
wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented the yellow school bus yet?) Yes, but you forgot to mention the fact yer a moron. Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! Hopefully, the music teacher will not confiscate yer kid's horn cuz his dad trashed it and kick him outta the band cuz his dad's a moron. nb -- vi --the root of evil |
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sam bruno wrote:
School starts Monday after a long recess and my kid's trumpet valves are stuck in place. We can't find the valve oil. It's not a life-or-death 'emergency' - but it got me thinking (not being a musician) what I could use that I had around the house to lubricate the valves. Unfortunately, I don't have 'sewing machine oil' at home (which googling says works ok). But I do have '3-in-1 household oil'. The MSDS says 3-in-1 is "Severely Hydrotreated Heavy Naphthenic Oil" ( 97% with 2% Naptha). PDF = http://tinyurl.com/6wlw2vs That sounds horrid. The music store will be closed until the kid goes to school Googling some more, I see some people say that 'mineral oil' works (which I can probably get at a drug store, right?) but before I go farther, I wonder if anyone here has advice for an easily found substitute for trumpet oil on a Sunday (i.e., hardware or drug store chemical)? BTW, this ehow article says to use "lamp oil" and "essential oil" in addition to "scent oil" and "sewing machine oil". Is it just me or are most of these oils (with the exception of sewing machine oil) exotic or what? http://www.ehow.com/how_6201749_home...valve-oil.html Use anything that's handy (nose lube, chicken fat, axle grease, etc.). When you can get the right stuff, clean out the replacement. Trumpet players know how to clean their instrument. |
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Probably cause busses pollute the air, but each parent delivering kids in
the SUV does not. I'm curious to hear what the teacher uses. My guess is to gently pull the valves out, clean them in hot water and detergent. The next morning, the teacher will use 2 drops per piston of trumpet oil, and reassemble. What do I get if I win? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "sam bruno" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the teacher deal with it. To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended up running an unexpected experiment using your advice. First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked (the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play properly. For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in the end for the valve rises slowly. On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but it wouldn't rise without force. So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented the yellow school bus yet?) Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! |
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I never even thought of wax. Makes sense.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "TimR" wrote in message ... Don't put oil on a chain. Use wax, there is a special wax from the bike stores that is much better. Airgun shooters put it on their pellets. |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
On Jan 9, 10:04*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Probably cause busses pollute the air, but each parent delivering kids in the SUV does not. I'm curious to hear what the teacher uses. My guess is to gently pull the valves out, clean them in hot water and detergent. The next morning, the teacher will use 2 drops per piston of trumpet oil, and reassemble. What do I get if I win? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "sam bruno" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:05:56 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote: Since the valves are sticking, probably better to take it in, let the teacher deal with it. To give an update on Monday morning, after dropping the kid off at school on my way to work (they haven't invented buses yet in California), I ended up running an unexpected experiment using your advice. First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. It was immediately clear on the first (of three) valves that it was just too thick and gooey. It worked (the valve is now free) but my kid said it rises too slowly to play properly. For the middle valve, I put the all-in-one oil. It penetrated well enough to free the valve without a big tussle, but, it too was way too thick in the end for the valve rises slowly. On the first valve, I simply took your suggestions to heart, and used the gree dish detergent. It worked to free up the valve (with warm water) but it wouldn't rise without force. So, I brought it in to the school with a note to the music teacher describing what I've done and where we were. I guess I'll find out when the wife picks up the kids this afternoon (did I say California hasn't invented the yellow school bus yet?) Hopefully the teacher's note back won't be too scathingly hot! Maybe not, you left out cleaning the valve cylinders. Usually best accomplish in a sink full of soapy water. There is a good change the teacher doesn't have the facilities to clean it properly. Jimmie |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
"Stormin Mormon" wrote:
We just had a long thread on electric motor oil. Maybe same for musical insturment valves, ND-20? Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Michael Dobony" wrote in message ... I would stick to the mineral oil. Kerosene based products smell and I doubt they are harmless. WD40 is good for cleaning things up, but dries out quickly. Sewing machine oil would also be a good substitute. Trumpet oil smelled like a silicone oil to me, very thin. In a pinch I would use crc 2-36, or lesser wd-40 The trouble is, I don't know what's going to happen with moisture. Greg |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
Ah, yes, also clean inside the little tubes where the plungers go. True, the
school might not provide the music room with a sink and hot water, and the teacher might not want to go find a sink. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "JIMMIE" wrote in message ... Maybe not, you left out cleaning the valve cylinders. Usually best accomplish in a sink full of soapy water. There is a good change the teacher doesn't have the facilities to clean it properly. Jimmie |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
On Jan 9, 11:40*am, sam bruno wrote:
First, I went to the store to get the glycerin. You went to the store to get glycerin, but you couldn't pick up some sewing machine oil while you were there??? I know you said the music store was closed, but what about the one in the next town over? There's a music store in every little bum-f town in America. You know, if your kid actually PRACTICED and maintained the damn thing like he is supposed to, the valves wouldn't have seized up. |
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I'm a trumpet player and buy and sell them too. Any oil will do as long as it doesn't slow the valve action. A lot of the famous players just used spit, it was quite common back in the day. |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
replying to sam bruno, Colton furlong wrote:
What kind of essential oil -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ol-678681-.htm using HomeOwnersHub's Web, Mobile and Social Media Interface to alt.home.repair and other home improvement groups |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
On Saturday, March 26, 2016 at 2:44:06 PM UTC-4, Colton furlong wrote:
replying to sam bruno, Colton furlong wrote: What kind of essential oil -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ol-678681-.htm using HomeOwnersHub's Web, Mobile and Social Media Interface to alt.home.repair and other home improvement groups this thread is from 1/10/12 by now the kid has graduated from high school. its funny google is going into the self drive car business, but isnt able to have decent software here |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:49:15 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: this thread is from 1/10/12 by now the kid has graduated from high school. And most likely has been well lubricated at least once. "Oil of Essence". |
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Trumpet valve oil household substitute (will 3-in-1 household oil work)?
replying to zxcvbob, Sydneytbee wrote:
WD-40 corrodes the nickle in horns (not reccomended) -- posted from http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ol-678681-.htm |
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