On Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:47:41 UTC+1, charles wrote:
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 20 June 2017 15:39:53 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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whisky-dave wrote:
Another thing if yuo look around where I live every other shop is
either polish or romaian with quite a number of turkish and other
nations how will these peolpe eat when the EU stops supplying their
native food products ?

Why would the EU stop supplying anything to the UK?

I don;t think it will thre;s quite a few EU citizens with shops is the EU
really goinf to starve these people or will it just cost them more to
live in the UK ?


Does any shop refuse to sell you anything?

Well not normally, most shops will sell stuff depending on it's price and
it's customers. People will pays £100s for a bottle of wine I won't. I
stopped buying wine when it went over £4.99 a bottle.

Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

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whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it. You will. May be more expensive, though.
Already is due to the pound dropping against the Euro, unless the seller
takes a smaller profit.

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On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.




You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change.
I expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.


Already is due to the pound dropping against the Euro, unless the seller
takes a smaller profit.


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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t

But you've just said it?


that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy
things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.

Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining
the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change. I
expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.

The pound had dropped in value against the Euro. Therefore, everything
else being equal, goods priced in Euros will cost more in Sterling than
before. Which is going be anything made in the EU - including French wine.


Already is due to the pound dropping against the Euro, unless the seller
takes a smaller profit.


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On 22/06/2017 13:58, whisky-dave wrote:
On Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:41:01 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 20/06/2017 16:13, whisky-dave wrote:

The buyers as we can buy elsewhere like we did with wine, when the
French made their wine expensive we started important wine from other
countries you may have heard off. It will be the purchases choice who
to buy wine from.

Progress at last.
Yes its the purchasers choice of where to buy stuff.

Unless the seller refuses to offer them in that country.

So when we need to sell our stuff to earn money to buy stuff who is
going to have to buy our stuff?

Those that want it.

Are you telling us that no one wants
Machinery including computers: US$60.3 billion (14.7% of total exports)


As brex****ters are too thick to understand so its pointless pointing
out that due to the fall in the £ we are getting less $ for our exports
but are paying more $ for our imports so we have less to spend on our
imports now before we face any tariffs that reduce our exports to the EU.

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:54:43 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t

But you've just said it?

No I haven't I still thiunk we will be able to buy stuff from the EU and the rest of the world just as we do now.



that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy
things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.

Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.



You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining
the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change. I
expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.

The pound had dropped in value against the Euro. Therefore, everything
else being equal, goods priced in Euros will cost more in Sterling than
before. Which is going be anything made in the EU - including French wine..

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa etc...
pleanty of countries sell wine.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.

No they ain't. I might well want to buy a new Rolls but ain't able to. Due
to not having the money.

Which is rather pertinent as regards UK trade. Absolutely everyone world
wide will be happy to sell us things. If we have the money to pay for them.

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On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 03:28:56 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:54:43 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t

But you've just said it?

No I haven't I still thiunk we will be able to buy stuff from the EU and the rest of the world just as we do now.



that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy
things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.

Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.



You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining
the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change. I
expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.

The pound had dropped in value against the Euro. Therefore, everything
else being equal, goods priced in Euros will cost more in Sterling than
before. Which is going be anything made in the EU - including French wine.

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa etc...
pleanty of countries sell wine.

Indeed. It is my opinion that Australian wines, in general, are
better value than ones from France.

whisky-dave wrote:

snip

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up
in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based
on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be
brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if
france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit
how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less
wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa
etc... pleanty of countries sell wine.

There is a certain inelesticity of demand due to some wine tasting
nicer.

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Mark wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 03:28:56 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:54:43 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t

But you've just said it?

No I haven't I still thiunk we will be able to buy stuff from the EU and the rest of the world just as we do now.



that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy
things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.

Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.



You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining
the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change. I
expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.

The pound had dropped in value against the Euro. Therefore, everything
else being equal, goods priced in Euros will cost more in Sterling than
before. Which is going be anything made in the EU - including French wine.

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa etc...
pleanty of countries sell wine.

Indeed. It is my opinion that Australian wines, in general, are
better value than ones from France.


The French employed Australian winemakers to improve the product AIUI!

On Monday, 26 June 2017 14:02:40 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.

No they ain't. I might well want to buy a new Rolls but ain't able to. Due
to not having the money.

A Rolls is an import is it ?
Can you tell me when you could afford a rolls was it back in the late 60s early 70s before we joined the common market, could you have afforded one between 1971 and 2016 ?



Which is rather pertinent as regards UK trade. Absolutely everyone world
wide will be happy to sell us things. If we have the money to pay for them.

They were just as happy to sll us things previously and will be just as happy to sell us things in the future.

who in the world do you think are likely to be buying Rolls Royces anyway ?
Do you realy think those that can afford a RR now won't be able to after BREXIT.
You haven't a clue have you one of the reasons why RR sell so well is because they are expensive NOT because they are good cars.
They don't win grand prix , they aren;t high end sports cars for boy racers.

On Monday, 26 June 2017 14:06:11 UTC+1, Mark wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 03:28:56 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:54:43 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be..
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t

But you've just said it?

No I haven't I still thiunk we will be able to buy stuff from the EU and the rest of the world just as we do now.



that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy
things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.

Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.



You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining
the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change. I
expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.

The pound had dropped in value against the Euro. Therefore, everything
else being equal, goods priced in Euros will cost more in Sterling than
before. Which is going be anything made in the EU - including French wine.

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa etc....
pleanty of countries sell wine.

Indeed. It is my opinion that Australian wines, in general, are
better value than ones from France.

Well that's what I've heard and spanish wines were better vaule until spain joined the EU when it had to reduce it's output so as not to damages french wine trade as they produced lots of cheap wine, which France didn't like.

And if no one in the UK can afford French wine then France will either have to lower it's costs or cut back on exports and I don't see how that will help the France or the EU if we stop buying from the EU and go elsewhere.

remmebr if the UK getsv pooer we'll have less money to spend on the EU.

On Monday, 26 June 2017 14:15:49 UTC+1, Roger Hayter wrote:
whisky-dave wrote:

snip

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up
in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based
on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be
brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if
france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit
how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less
wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa
etc... pleanty of countries sell wine.

There is a certain inelesticity of demand due to some wine tasting
nicer.

But not much for the majority, if you're a wine connoisseur then it;s your choice as I said it's still down to supply and demand.

It really is that simple.

On 26/06/17 14:06, Mark wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 03:28:56 -0700 (PDT), whisky-dave
wrote:

On Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:54:43 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:25:31 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Go to Lidl, then.

There's one opening up near me in september where B&Q used to be.
But how will I buy wine from the EU ?

You seem to have the very odd idea that leaving the EU means we will be no
longer able to buy goods from it.

N o I don;t

But you've just said it?

No I haven't I still thiunk we will be able to buy stuff from the EU and the rest of the world just as we do now.



that's what some on here are implying because no one will want to buy
things from the UK., that's what free trade is about.

Being able and wanting to buy things are not the same.

But very closely linked. It's called supply and demand.



You will. May be more expensive, though.

Why other than interest rates which have gone up and down since joining
the EU prices have changed so I donlt expect prices to not change. I
expect the UKP & $ rates to change depending on what trump does.

The pound had dropped in value against the Euro. Therefore, everything
else being equal, goods priced in Euros will cost more in Sterling than
before. Which is going be anything made in the EU - including French wine.

Which goes for everything. How much does it matter if French wine goes up in price. I'm not in the market for french wine but I do by things based on price like most people. If french wine increases in price less will be brought and more wine from none EU countries will be brought and if france are expeorting less wine to the UK they will be making less profit how does that help france or teh EU ir the UK.

We know exporting is the key so France and the EU will be exporting less wine to us while we import cheaper wine from australia, south africa etc...
pleanty of countries sell wine.

Indeed. It is my opinion that Australian wines, in general, are
better value than ones from France.

Any wine is better value tan a wine from France.


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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:

Do you realy think those that can afford a RR now won't be able to after
BREXIT. You haven't a clue have you one of the reasons why RR sell so
well is because they are expensive NOT because they are good cars. They
don't win grand prix , they aren;t high end sports cars for boy racers.



I was once in the second "row" wating for the lights to change. In the
front row a Mini Coooper with the driver blipping the throttle - along side
was a Rolls. Lights change and the Cooper's engine revs went up and rubber
was left on the tarmac - The Rolls just purred away - in the lead.

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On Monday, 26 June 2017 18:11:50 UTC+1, charles wrote:
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:

Do you realy think those that can afford a RR now won't be able to after
BREXIT. You haven't a clue have you one of the reasons why RR sell so
well is because they are expensive NOT because they are good cars. They
don't win grand prix , they aren;t high end sports cars for boy racers.



I was once in the second "row" wating for the lights to change. In the
front row a Mini Coooper with the driver blipping the throttle - along side
was a Rolls. Lights change and the Cooper's engine revs went up and rubber
was left on the tarmac - The Rolls just purred away - in the lead.

I was at the lights once, me and a 2CV the lights changed 2CV 'reved up' made a clanking noise and I beat it for about 20 yards, I was walking.