I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. The cabling that came with the cameras has plugs
already installed at each end and the camera instructions say to cut one
plug off, thread the cable through a supplied tube and gland, and then
crimp a new plug onto the cable before connecting the plug and the
camera's socket inside the weatherproof tube.

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

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F

On 11/03/2017 11:28, F wrote:
I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. The cabling that came with the cameras has plugs
already installed at each end and the camera instructions say to cut one
plug off, thread the cable through a supplied tube and gland, and then
crimp a new plug onto the cable before connecting the plug and the
camera's socket inside the weatherproof tube.

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

A further thought... is it OK to hide the cable by running it in a
gutter until it reaches a position where I can put it through a hole in
a wall? Black cable against brickwork doesn't look pretty.

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F

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:28:29 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. T

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

Good quality self amalgamating tape applied correctly should do what
you want.

G.Harman

On 11/03/2017 11:28, F wrote:
I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. The cabling that came with the cameras has plugs
already installed at each end and the camera instructions say to cut one
plug off, thread the cable through a supplied tube and gland, and then
crimp a new plug onto the cable before connecting the plug and the
camera's socket inside the weatherproof tube.

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.


Do you only want to protect it from rain?

If so any box that has holes in the bottom and not the top should be fine.

A short length of plastic pipe with a stop end on it with the cables
pushed in mounted vertically works quite well as it does for a USB
ethernet dongle.

On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 12:20:19 PM UTC, wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:28:29 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. T

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

Good quality self amalgamating tape applied correctly should do what
you want.

G.Harman

+1 , be generous with the wrapping.

Nuclear option , gel filled boxes

http://www.raytech.it/product/low-vo...r-line?lang=en

Running cable in gutter should be fine, would use outdoor rated CAT5 for preference, crimping plugs takes a bit of practice and get a cheap LAN tester, the one with ladder of LEDs on sender and receiver.

En el artículo , F
news@nowhere.? escribió:

I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I)

Have you secured them?

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/03/...devices-under-
siege/

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wrote:

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:28:29 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. T

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

Good quality self amalgamating tape applied correctly should do what
you want.

G.Harman

I am sure you are right. However, in my hands it resulted in some form
of twisting or bending force on the plug and socket which broke at least
one of the contacts. Certainly a point to bear in mind if it doesn't
work.



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Roger Hayter

On 11/03/2017 11:51, F wrote:

A further thought... is it OK to hide the cable by running it in a
gutter

No.

Bill

On 11/03/2017 12:45, Adam Aglionby wrote:

Running cable in gutter should be fine, would use outdoor rated CAT5 for preference, crimping plugs takes a bit of practice and get a cheap LAN tester, the one with ladder of LEDs on sender and receiver.


Normal cables will not stand semi-permanent immersion in water for very
long.

Bill

On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 9:12:00 PM UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/03/2017 12:45, Adam Aglionby wrote:

Running cable in gutter should be fine, would use outdoor rated CAT5 for preference, crimping plugs takes a bit of practice and get a cheap LAN tester, the one with ladder of LEDs on sender and receiver.


Normal cables will not stand semi-permanent immersion in water for very
long.

Bill

Longer than I thought ;-) from experience, couple of outdoor blacks and an indoor grey, gutter wasn`t cleared in a while, cable was covered in slime , still functioning couple of years on.

Guess PVC isn`t really totally waterproof though, one of those tings that works fine, right up until it dosent..

Judicious use of cable tiesd u.sually possible to get them tucked at back outside of gutter on to gutter brackets or cable clips was one use have found for a 3D printer ;-)

On 11/03/2017 14:18, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , F
news@nowhere.? escribió:

I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I)

Have you secured them?

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/03/...devices-under-
siege/

Yes. Thanks for the warning but the first thing I did was change the
defaults and there's no access from the 'net.

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F

On 11/03/2017 12:32, dennis@home wrote:
On 11/03/2017 11:28, F wrote:
I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. The cabling that came with the cameras has plugs
already installed at each end and the camera instructions say to cut one
plug off, thread the cable through a supplied tube and gland, and then
crimp a new plug onto the cable before connecting the plug and the
camera's socket inside the weatherproof tube.

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.


Do you only want to protect it from rain?

If so any box that has holes in the bottom and not the top should be fine.

A short length of plastic pipe with a stop end on it with the cables
pushed in mounted vertically works quite well as it does for a USB
ethernet dongle.

I've gone for some junction boxes from Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/7-entry-ju...questid=438781.

Just one slight gotcha: they're listed as 88 x 88 x 88 but that's the
outside dimension. Inside they're 80 x 80 x 80 but are OK. Just.

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F

On 11/03/2017 21:11, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/03/2017 12:45, Adam Aglionby wrote:

Running cable in gutter should be fine, would use outdoor rated CAT5
for preference, crimping plugs takes a bit of practice and get a cheap
LAN tester, the one with ladder of LEDs on sender and receiver.


Normal cables will not stand semi-permanent immersion in water for very
long.

Thanks for the warning, but they're outdoor rated. I should have said so.

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F

En el artículo , F
news@nowhere.? escribió:

Yes. Thanks for the warning but the first thing I did was change the
defaults and there's no access from the 'net.

OK, but be aware that these things can use uPnP (aka spawn of Satan) to
poke holes through firewalls without warning. That includes the
firewall in your router. Best practice is to disable uPnP.

Re your other question, dealing with the flying network/power sockets
(and reset button) on my Foscam camera, I used a ~4" sq glanded IP66
rated box from CPC. Would give you a part number but their website is
running like a stunned slug on Mogadon and I can't be arsed waiting.

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In the latter case it very much depends on what sort of crap builds up in
the gutter and whether the local birds etc, use the gutter for a dust bath
as they seem to do in mine.

It also depends how well made the cable is and how it responds to ice and
UV.
Brian

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On 11/03/2017 11:28, F wrote:
I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. The cabling that came with the cameras has plugs
already installed at each end and the camera instructions say to cut one
plug off, thread the cable through a supplied tube and gland, and then
crimp a new plug onto the cable before connecting the plug and the
camera's socket inside the weatherproof tube.

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

A further thought... is it OK to hide the cable by running it in a gutter
until it reaches a position where I can put it through a hole in a wall?
Black cable against brickwork doesn't look pretty.

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F

WE have had discussions here before about cameras inside sealed enclosures
and condensation at the lens or the window it looks through, I seem to
recall.
Myself I'd find some new white cable and only fit the plug on one end as
they suggest and then fit the other. Then inside out of the weather, simply
use an adaptor to join the two plugged ends together. This way if the
outside cable fails, you do not have to replace the whole run.
Brian

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On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:28:29 +0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

I need to connect PoE CCTV cameras (HikVision DS-2CD2042WD-I) to Cat5
cabling outdoors. T

If I can, I would prefer to leave the plug on and hide the connected
plug and socket inside a weatherproof enclosure.
As well as avoiding the possibility of poor connections, this would
also ensure that the unused power connector from the camera would be out
of the weather too.


Can anyone suggest such an enclosure? All the ones I have found so far
would need to plug removing or are silly money.

Good quality self amalgamating tape applied correctly should do what
you want.

G.Harman

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 21:11:58 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Normal cables will not stand semi-permanent immersion in water for very
long.

The length of bog standard Cat5 that is in a U shaped length of
flexable conduit between house and shed seems OK and it's been there
for over 10 years. Initially installed with ends of conduit in house
and shed but it's not strimmer proof... it's been flooded for a good
number of years Cat5 is carrying DC and low speed data from the
weather station sensors, rather than ethernet. Another length of cat5
showed no signs of degredation after several years exposed to the sun
on the southside of the house.

There is a joint in that cable orginally a leaf spring terminal block
inside an inverted open plastic bag but that went rusty and failed.
Join is now soldered and sleeved (just each wire), shoved up inside a
cut off, inverted, open, flat plastic bottle. That's probably been in
out there for 6 years and is fine and is carrying ethernet now.

As for the OP's problem. Is the cable entry a proper gland? Will the
plug pass through gland without the seal in place? It is possible to
cut the actual sealing gland to get it round the cable and assemble
as normal. The cut seals just like the gland to the cable under the
pressure from the tightened gland nut.

If using a seperate IP66 box and glands don't forget to drill a small
weep hole at the lowest point.

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Dave.

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:51:59 +0000, F wrote:

A further thought... is it OK to hide the cable by running it in a
gutter until it reaches a position where I can put it through a hole in
a wall? Black cable against brickwork doesn't look pretty.

As Mr Aglionby suggests outside the gutter along the top of the
brackets and black cable tied to them would be better. If only to
stop it possibly trapping crap and blocking the gutter.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 11:09:05 PM UTC, F wrote:
On 11/03/2017 21:11, Bill Wright wrote:
On 11/03/2017 12:45, Adam Aglionby wrote:

Running cable in gutter should be fine, would use outdoor rated CAT5
for preference, crimping plugs takes a bit of practice and get a cheap
LAN tester, the one with ladder of LEDs on sender and receiver.


Normal cables will not stand semi-permanent immersion in water for very
long.

Thanks for the warning, but they're outdoor rated. I should have said so.

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F

Think Bill`s concern is PVC insulated cable in permanent immersion, cables intended for immersion tend to be rubber insulated.

Think outdoor rated Cat5 is UV stabilised, but as with other`s experience , noraml Cat5 seesm to stand up to elements reasonably well, at the least stuff better than the 25 quid a box CCA.... ;-)