After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.


You're lucky that the cable was all that burned. You could have been in
need of a new house!
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5
kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring
problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.


You're lucky that the cable was all that burned. You could have been in
need of a new house!

T'wouldn't bother mason, he could sell his watch.

Roger Mills wrote:
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my
8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.


You're lucky that the cable was all that burned. You could have been in
need of a new house!

Can't you spot attention seeking behaviour when you see it?

Tim

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On Thursday, 29 December 2016 22:33:05 UTC, bm wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5
kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring
problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.


You're lucky that the cable was all that burned. You could have been in
need of a new house!

T'wouldn't bother mason, he could sell his watch.

Which one?

http://bit.ly/2hAUANt

On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

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On Friday, 30 December 2016 17:21:03 UTC, ARW wrote:
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.

In message , ARW
writes
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my
8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the
wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

Oh. Right, I happen to have this chalet bungalow needing a full
rewire...


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On 30/12/2016 18:39, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, 30 December 2016 17:21:03 UTC, ARW wrote:
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.



Of course you have!


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ARW wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:

I have just bought a spool of 8mm

Of course you have!

Must be WF125 coax.

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 18:16:56 -0000, Simon Mason wrote:

After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my 8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

There's an easy rule of thumb. 1mm takes 10 amps. So 2.5mm takes 25 amps. Your sauna needs 34 amps, which is more than 25.

The 10mm cooker cable is actually capable of 100A.

(Assuming you're talking cross sectional area, which is what they're sold by).

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On Friday, 30 December 2016 19:09:21 UTC, ARW wrote:


I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.



Of course you have!

Before I boxed it up - grey is 8mm.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/cable.jpg

On 30/12/2016 20:03, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, 30 December 2016 19:09:21 UTC, ARW wrote:


I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.



Of course you have!

Before I boxed it up - grey is 8mm.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/cable.jpg


It might be 4mm2.

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:03:59 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Friday, 30 December 2016 19:09:21 UTC, ARW wrote:


I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.



Of course you have!

Before I boxed it up - grey is 8mm.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/cable.jpg


You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

On 30/12/2016 20:11, dennis@home wrote:
On 30/12/2016 20:03, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, 30 December 2016 19:09:21 UTC, ARW wrote:


I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.



Of course you have!

Before I boxed it up - grey is 8mm.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/cable.jpg


It might be 4mm2.

Or 6mm.

But not 8mm

--
Adam

On 30/12/2016 19:16, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The 10mm cooker cable is actually capable of 100A.

Try 64A


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Adam

On Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:36:31 UTC, ARW wrote:


Or 6mm.

But not 8mm

My mistake - it is 2x6mm2 + 2.5 mm2.

On Friday, 30 December 2016 21:57:52 UTC, Judith wrote:


You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

God can't let me die until I have finished writing that book - I am up to 8JAN14 now.

Simon Mason wrote
Judith wrote

You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

God can't let me die until I have finished writing that book

No god cares about any book.

Specially one that just yawned when 6M of
its 'chosen people' were gassed and cremated.

And yawned when so many of its priests raped children.

- I am up to 8JAN14 now.

On 31/12/2016 08:16, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:36:31 UTC, ARW wrote:


Or 6mm.

But not 8mm

My mistake - it is 2x6mm2 + 2.5 mm2.

And why not a proper junction box?

--
Adam

On 30/12/2016 18:51, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my
8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved
the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

Oh. Right, I happen to have this chalet bungalow needing a full rewire...



Crack on then.

You could have fitted a double socket in the time it took you to make
that post:-)))

--
Adam

In message , ARW
writes
On 30/12/2016 18:51, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my
8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved
the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

Oh. Right, I happen to have this chalet bungalow needing a full rewire...



Crack on then.

You could have fitted a double socket in the time it took you to make
that post:-)))

I'm more than happy to lend a hand but *skilled* men seem very
protective of their work opportunities.


--
Tim Lamb

In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , ARW
writes
On 30/12/2016 18:51, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my
8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved
the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

Oh. Right, I happen to have this chalet bungalow needing a full rewire...



Crack on then.

You could have fitted a double socket in the time it took you to make
that post:-)))

I'm more than happy to lend a hand but *skilled* men seem very
protective of their work opportunities.

As a matter of interest, am I going to be laughed at if I want to run
cables in ducts at ceiling level and through/over soffits rather than
have sparkies drilling endless holes through structural timbers?

--
Tim Lamb

On Saturday, 31 December 2016 08:44:40 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Simon Mason wrote
Judith wrote

You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

God can't let me die until I have finished writing that book

No god cares about any book.

Specially one that just yawned when 6M of
its 'chosen people' were gassed and cremated.

And yawned when so many of its priests raped children.

BLAME MR A HITLER AND THOSE PRIESTS - NOWT TO DO WITH GOD.

On Saturday, 31 December 2016 09:05:48 UTC, ARW wrote:
On 31/12/2016 08:16, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:36:31 UTC, ARW wrote:


Or 6mm.

But not 8mm

My mistake - it is 2x6mm2 + 2.5 mm2.

And why not a proper junction box?

--
Adam

IT IS.

http://www.diy.com/departments/mk-5-.../189496_BQ.prd

On 31/12/2016 10:03, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 09:05:48 UTC, ARW wrote:
On 31/12/2016 08:16, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:36:31 UTC, ARW wrote:


Or 6mm.

But not 8mm

My mistake - it is 2x6mm2 + 2.5 mm2.

And why not a proper junction box?

--
Adam

IT IS.

http://www.diy.com/departments/mk-5-.../189496_BQ.prd


Not for 6mm T&E.



--
Adam

On 31/12/2016 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , ARW
writes
On 30/12/2016 18:51, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , ARW
writes
On 29/12/2016 18:16, Simon Mason wrote:
After suffering several burnouts by using stranded 2.5mm cable for my
8.5 kW sauna, I finally used 50A 10mm cooker cable and have solved
the wiring problem.

Good job I don't do it for a living.

Why not?

It's **** easy to do it right first time.

Oh. Right, I happen to have this chalet bungalow needing a full
rewire...



Crack on then.

You could have fitted a double socket in the time it took you to make
that post:-)))

I'm more than happy to lend a hand but *skilled* men seem very
protective of their work opportunities.

As a matter of interest, am I going to be laughed at if I want to run
cables in ducts at ceiling level and through/over soffits rather than
have sparkies drilling endless holes through structural timbers?


I'll not laugh.

I believe I have done more to bring house electrics to DIYers than most
people.

There allowed places to drill joists so that might not matter if they
are structural.

As for running the cables though the soffits. It seams feasible.

--
Adam

In article ,
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
There's an easy rule of thumb. 1mm takes 10 amps. So 2.5mm takes 25
amps. Your sauna needs 34 amps, which is more than 25.

The 10mm cooker cable is actually capable of 100A.

You really should not post things here you've found on the back of a fag
packet.

If 1mm is rated at 10 amps due to the type of run, 10mm would be about 40
amps under the same conditions.

Hope your fire insurance is up to date.

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On 31/12/2016 11:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
There's an easy rule of thumb. 1mm takes 10 amps. So 2.5mm takes 25
amps. Your sauna needs 34 amps, which is more than 25.

The 10mm cooker cable is actually capable of 100A.

You really should not post things here you've found on the back of a fag
packet.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PbP_pIgR4s




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Adam

On 31/12/2016 07:37, ARW wrote:
On 30/12/2016 20:11, dennis@home wrote:
On 30/12/2016 20:03, Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, 30 December 2016 19:09:21 UTC, ARW wrote:


I have just bought a spool of 8mm as the 10mm was too stiff.
Up and working again now.



Of course you have!

Before I boxed it up - grey is 8mm.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/cable.jpg


It might be 4mm2.

Or 6mm.

But not 8mm


Maybe he is rich enough to have it made for him, by Russ probably, so
his air bubbles sound better.

It looks like it has multiple strands to the conductors but doesn't look
big enough to be above 4mm to me.
He makes it up anyway.

On 31/12/2016 10:01, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 08:44:40 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Simon Mason wrote
Judith wrote

You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

God can't let me die until I have finished writing that book

No god cares about any book.

Specially one that just yawned when 6M of
its 'chosen people' were gassed and cremated.

And yawned when so many of its priests raped children.

BLAME MR A HITLER AND THOSE PRIESTS - NOWT TO DO WITH GOD.




The bible states that God is a mass murderer so why shouldn't I blame God?

On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:03:55 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Saturday, 31 December 2016 09:05:48 UTC, ARW wrote:
On 31/12/2016 08:16, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:36:31 UTC, ARW wrote:


Or 6mm.

But not 8mm

My mistake - it is 2x6mm2 + 2.5 mm2.

And why not a proper junction box?

--
Adam

IT IS.

http://www.diy.com/departments/mk-5-.../189496_BQ.prd


What did you secure the box to - and how did you secure the cables?

On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 02:01:37 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Saturday, 31 December 2016 08:44:40 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Simon Mason wrote
Judith wrote

You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

God can't let me die until I have finished writing that book

No god cares about any book.

Specially one that just yawned when 6M of
its 'chosen people' were gassed and cremated.

And yawned when so many of its priests raped children.

BLAME MR A HITLER AND THOSE PRIESTS - NOWT TO DO WITH GOD.


But surely don't people with your beliefs think that everything that is done is
God's wish?

On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:35:07 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
There's an easy rule of thumb. 1mm takes 10 amps. So 2.5mm takes 25
amps. Your sauna needs 34 amps, which is more than 25.

The 10mm cooker cable is actually capable of 100A.

You really should not post things here you've found on the back of a fag
packet.

If 1mm is rated at 10 amps due to the type of run, 10mm would be about 40
amps under the same conditions.

10mm is 10 times the copper, so can take 10 times the current.

Hope your fire insurance is up to date.

I've never caused a fire.

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On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 07:41:54 -0000, ARW wrote:

On 30/12/2016 19:16, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

The 10mm cooker cable is actually capable of 100A.

Try 64A

10mm is 10 times as much cable. Think of it this way, ten 1mm cables would carry 10 times one 1mm cable. All you've done with the 10mm cable is shove them all together.

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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Think of it this way, ten 1mm cables would carry 10 times one 1mm
cable. All you've done with the 10mm cable is shove them all
together.

Think! How does the surface area increase relative to the
cross-sectional area? How might that affect heat dissipation?

On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:44:06 -0000, Andy Burns wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Think of it this way, ten 1mm cables would carry 10 times one 1mm
cable. All you've done with the 10mm cable is shove them all
together.

Think! How does the surface area increase relative to the
cross-sectional area? How might that affect heat dissipation?

You shouldn't be making it hot.

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"I'm not dead, I'm not dead. Let me out!"
The Vicar smiles, leans forward sucking air through his teeth and mutters:
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On Saturday, 31 December 2016 15:13:50 UTC, Judith wrote:


What did you secure the box to - and how did you secure the cables?

With a bike saddle of course, what else?

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/wiring.jpg

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 31 December 2016 08:44:40 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Simon Mason wrote
Judith wrote

You need to take care that you don't kill yourself.

God can't let me die until I have finished writing that book

No god cares about any book.

Specially one that just yawned when 6M of
its 'chosen people' were gassed and cremated.

And yawned when so many of its priests raped children.

BLAME MR A HITLER AND THOSE PRIESTS - NOWT TO DO WITH GOD.

PITY THAT ARSEHOLE OF A GOD OF YOURS DIDNT
DO A DAMNED THING ABOUT THOSE DOING THAT.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:44:06 -0000, Andy Burns wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Think of it this way, ten 1mm cables would carry 10 times one 1mm
cable. All you've done with the 10mm cable is shove them all
together.

Think! How does the surface area increase relative to the
cross-sectional area? How might that affect heat dissipation?

Why don't you suggest to the morons making the wire to just put the current rating on it?

--
As the coffin was being lowered into the ground at a Traffic Wardens funeral, a voice from inside screams:
"I'm not dead, I'm not dead. Let me out!"
The Vicar smiles, leans forward sucking air through his teeth and mutters:
"Too late pal, I've already done the paperwork"