On 2SEP16, I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I could have free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading, nor can I find how I am paying for it, so at the moment I seem to be getting free electricity anyway, so I am filling my boots with free saunas 5 days a week.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

On Saturday, 12 November 2016 05:52:57 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On 2SEP16, I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I could have free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading, nor can I find how I am paying for it, so at the moment I seem to be getting free electricity anyway, so I am filling my boots with free saunas 5 days a week.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

Brain dead as usual.
They will catch up with you and you'll have to pay in the end.

Simon Mason wrote:

I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I could have
free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading

I thought the free sat/sun was conditional on having smart meter(s)
fitted? Do you have them?

nor can I find how I am paying for it,

Direct debit would ne the usual way

so at the moment I seem to be getting free electricity anyway, so I
am filling my boots with free saunas 5 days a week.

I expect you'll be paying for them, good job you cashed-in those shares eh?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

Nothing on there seems to be free, or even related to electricity.

On Saturday, 12 November 2016 08:59:42 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I could have
free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading

I thought the free sat/sun was conditional on having smart meter(s)
fitted? Do you have them?

I don't want a smart meter now!

Direct debit would ne the usual way

I am paying DD of £62.54 as per this, but there is no electricity component to the bill nor any way of entering my own reading.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

Simon Mason wrote:

I don't want a smart meter now!

Then BG won't give you free electricity.

On Saturday, 12 November 2016 09:39:14 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

I don't want a smart meter now!

Then BG won't give you free electricity.

Someone is already!

As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and have to
have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the economy tariffs
like economy 7. In this case they can read your meter, but I still
understood you have to have a direct debit set up as any power used before
this is priced at the standard default rate wh until that is actual up and
running.
Read the small print as well I bet its only free for a certain time then it
will be reviewed. if too many people take the power off peak then it will in
fact become the peak which would defeat the whole object I suppose.
Brian

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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On 2SEP16, I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I could
have free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading, nor
can I find how I am paying for it, so at the moment I seem to be getting
free electricity anyway, so I am filling my boots with free saunas 5 days
a week.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

On Saturday, 12 November 2016 08:59:42 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:


I expect you'll be paying for them, good job you cashed-in those shares eh?

Yes - the £4-95 I got on 25OCT16 was a very good price.

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On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and have to
have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the economy tariffs
like economy 7. In this case they can read your meter, but I still
understood you have to have a direct debit set up as any power used before
this is priced at the standard default rate wh until that is actual up and
running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is no way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is if a bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen one of those for several years.

On 12/11/2016 10:38, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and have to
have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the economy tariffs
like economy 7. In this case they can read your meter, but I still
understood you have to have a direct debit set up as any power used before
this is priced at the standard default rate wh until that is actual up and
running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is no way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is if a bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen one of those for several years.

Are you sure that your previous supplier has closed your account and you
have a final bill.

I would not trust BG not to clobber you if they discover the situation.

I did once have a free gas supply. I wrote and thanked the gas board
when I sold the property.

I also ended up with a free BT broadband connection but I got rid of
that. The challenge at the time was to get a MAC number out of them
when they did not think they were supplying me, and I could not move
without it.

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On 12/11/2016 10:38, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and
have to have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the
economy tariffs like economy 7. In this case they can read your
meter, but I still understood you have to have a direct debit set
up as any power used before this is priced at the standard default
rate wh until that is actual up and running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is
no way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is
if a bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen
one of those for several years.


Your free electricity will only start once they have installed your
smart meter. They use the smart meter to give the free electricity.
Anything else is charged at the normal rate.

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On 12/11/2016 10:38, Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and
have to have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the
economy tariffs like economy 7. In this case they can read your
meter, but I still understood you have to have a direct debit set
up as any power used before this is priced at the standard default
rate wh until that is actual up and running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is
no way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is
if a bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen
one of those for several years.


Your free electricity will only start once they have installed your smart
meter. They use the smart meter to give the free electricity. Anything
else is charged at the normal rate.

Yebut, Simon is obviously a special case.

Michael Chare wrote:

I did once have a free gas supply. I wrote and thanked the gas board
when I sold the property.

Must happen relatively often, a friend had the same, caused a problem
when after owning the house for several years they rented it out, he
tried to persuade the tenant that gas was "included" in the rent, but
tenant wanted to change electricity tariff to a dual-fuel.

On Saturday, 12 November 2016 11:02:06 UTC, Michael Chare wrote:

Are you sure that your previous supplier has closed your account and you
have a final bill.

I logged onto npower on 1OCT16 and it said "this account is now closed".

Simon Mason wrote

On 2SEP16, I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that
I could have free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit
a meter reading, nor can I find how I am paying for it, so
at the moment I seem to be getting free electricity anyway,

Nope, all you have done is deferred paying for it for a while.

so I am filling my boots with free saunas 5 days a week.

More fool you, they wont be free, you watch.

Bet that bites you.

Bet that bites you.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

Simon Mason wrote
Andy Burns wrote
Simon Mason wrote

I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I could
have free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading

I thought the free sat/sun was conditional on having smart meter(s)
fitted? Do you have them?

I don't want a smart meter now!

You've got one anyway.

Direct debit would ne the usual way

I am paying DD of £62.54 as per this, but there is no electricity
component to the bill nor any way of entering my own reading.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

Because its a smart meter and they can read it themselves, stupid. They
just dont show the electricity on the bill. You're paying for it anyway.

On Saturday, 12 November 2016 19:28:12 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:

Because its a smart meter and they can read it themselves, stupid. They
just dont show the electricity on the bill. You're paying for it anyway.

I STILL HAVE AN OLD SPINNING DISC METER FROM WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 1964.

Simon Mason wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Because its a smart meter and they can read it themselves, stupid. They
just dont show the electricity on the bill. You're paying for it anyway.

I STILL HAVE AN OLD SPINNING DISC METER FROM WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 1964.

THEY WILL BE SENDING YOU THE BILL FOR THE ELECTRICITY YOU
HAVE USED WHEN THEY SWAP IT FOR A SMARTMETER AND CUTTING
OFF YOUR ELECTRICITY USING THE SMARTMETER IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY
STUPID ENOUGH TO REFUSE TO PAY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE USED.

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On Saturday, 12 November 2016 09:39:14 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

I don't want a smart meter now!

Then BG won't give you free electricity.

Someone is already!

Nope, just delayed payment electricity.

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and have
to
have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the economy
tariffs
like economy 7. In this case they can read your meter, but I still
understood you have to have a direct debit set up as any power used
before
this is priced at the standard default rate wh until that is actual up
and
running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is no
way
they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is if a bloke
turns
up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen one of those for several
years.

The one who replaces it with the smartmeter will read
it and they will then send you the bill for the electricity
you have used when you stupidly decided it was free.

On 12/11/2016 10:38, Simon Mason wrote:


I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is no way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is if a bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen one of those for several years.


You don't even need to read the small print...

Until you have a smart meter installed you will not be getting the free
electricity deal with BG.

The only way you may be getting free electricity is if you have dropped
off of the radar - your old supplier has closed the account and your new
supplier has no record of you signing up.

Are you sure that BG hasn't tried to contact you by snail mail or email
to say your property is not suitable for a smart meter and therefore you
cannot have the free electricity tariff. They would then automatically
default put you to the expensive standard tariff and send you the
estimated bill in 3/6 months time?




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On Sunday, 13 November 2016 07:29:49 UTC, alan_m wrote:

The only way you may be getting free electricity is if you have dropped
off of the radar - your old supplier has closed the account and your new
supplier has no record of you signing up.

By Jove, someone has got it!
Although I am on BG's waiting list for a smart meter, but if they get in touch, I will say that I have changed my mind and don't want one anymore.

It's not MY cock up, after all.

Simon Mason wrote
alan_m wrote

The only way you may be getting free electricity is if you have
dropped off of the radar - your old supplier has closed the
account and your new supplier has no record of you signing up.

By Jove, someone has got it!

We'll see...

Although I am on BG's waiting list for a smart meter,

So you havent in fact dropped off the radar at all.

but if they get in touch, I will say that I have
changed my mind and don't want one anymore.

And then they will send someone to read the meter
and present you with a ****ing great bill that you will
have to pay or have both your electricity and gas cut off.

It's not MY cock up, after all.

There is no cock up, just another of your terminal stupiditys.

Well, very peculiar, as I'm certain I read that they have to install the
smart meter to give you this free function so they can monitor usage. Sounds
to me like you have fallen through some crack in the system somewhere and
I'd make enquiries sooner rather than later, as they will sting you
megabucks otherwise.
Which reminds me, EDF have already missed telling me about a meter reading
appointment, so I have two quarters outstanding now. Time to get a pointy
stick out with them I think.
Brian

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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and have
to
have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the economy
tariffs
like economy 7. In this case they can read your meter, but I still
understood you have to have a direct debit set up as any power used
before
this is priced at the standard default rate wh until that is actual up
and
running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is no
way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is if a
bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen one of those
for several years.

Brian Gaff wrote

Well, very peculiar, as I'm certain I read that they have to install the
smart meter to give you this free function so they can monitor usage.

Correct.

Sounds to me like you have fallen through some crack in the system
somewhere

Nope, he's just too stupid to have noticed that he doesn’t get free
electricity on Saturday or Sunday until the smartmeter has been fitted.

and I'd make enquiries sooner rather than later, as they will sting you
megabucks otherwise.

Not if he isnt actually stupid enough to assume he is getting free
electricity.

Which reminds me, EDF have already missed telling me about a meter reading
appointment, so I have two quarters outstanding now. Time to get a pointy
stick out with them I think.

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 12 November 2016 10:32:20 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
As I read it, you have to have both Gas and Electric from them and have
to
have a certain type of smart meter, and not have any of the economy
tariffs
like economy 7. In this case they can read your meter, but I still
understood you have to have a direct debit set up as any power used
before
this is priced at the standard default rate wh until that is actual up
and
running.

I have an old fashioned rotating disc electricity meter and there is no
way they can remotely read it. The only way they can charge me is if a
bloke turns up with a torch and clipboard, but I haven't seen one of
those for several years.

On 13/11/2016 07:51, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 13 November 2016 07:29:49 UTC, alan_m wrote:

The only way you may be getting free electricity is if you have dropped
off of the radar - your old supplier has closed the account and your new
supplier has no record of you signing up.

By Jove, someone has got it!
Although I am on BG's waiting list for a smart meter, but if they get in touch, I will say that I have changed my mind and don't want one anymore.

It's not MY cock up, after all.


Are you sure that when switching the electricity that you used exactly
the same contact details as you used for the (exsisting?) gas? You may
have two BG web accounts and you are only accessing one of them. You
may have to register your new electricity account on-line with the email
address you used and the meter id_number found on your previous
suppliers bill.

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On 13/11/2016 09:26, alan_m wrote:
On 13/11/2016 07:51, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 13 November 2016 07:29:49 UTC, alan_m wrote:

The only way you may be getting free electricity is if you have dropped
off of the radar - your old supplier has closed the account and your new
supplier has no record of you signing up.

By Jove, someone has got it!
Although I am on BG's waiting list for a smart meter, but if they get
in touch, I will say that I have changed my mind and don't want one
anymore.

It's not MY cock up, after all.


Are you sure that when switching the electricity that you used exactly
the same contact details as you used for the (exsisting?) gas? You may
have two BG web accounts and you are only accessing one of them. You
may have to register your new electricity account on-line with the email
address you used and the meter id_number found on your previous
suppliers bill.

Good advice. And almost *exactly* what we found on switching back to BG
(with smart meters) earlier this year. (Spin on our switch was that the
wrong meter was linked to our address - something that led to an
interesting phone call from BG's IT people who were trying to fathom who
had done what, where to corrupt the records.)

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alan_m wrote:

The only way you may be getting free electricity is if you have dropped
off of the radar - your old supplier has closed the account and your new
supplier has no record of you signing up.

Which does happen, my daughter got her electricity for nothing for
several years for this reason. She repeatedly tried to find who her
supplier was to no avail. As a result she *didn't* get a huge
backdated bill when it was finally sorted out because only one year's
worth was chargeable.

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On Sunday, 13 November 2016 10:33:04 UTC, Chris Green wrote:

Which does happen, my daughter got her electricity for nothing for
several years for this reason. She repeatedly tried to find who her
supplier was to no avail. As a result she *didn't* get a huge
backdated bill when it was finally sorted out because only one year's
worth was chargeable.

Yes - the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in - not gonna happen.

Simon Mason wrote:

the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a
torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in

The gas operator can apply for a warrant to enter the premises, by force
if necessary.

On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:20:10 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a
torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in

The gas operator can apply for a warrant to enter the premises, by force
if necessary.

They need no warrants.
When the gas/electricity is signed up for there is a right of entry clause. For emergencies and anything else that crops up.
Has been for yonks.

Simon Mason wrote
Chris Green wrote

Which does happen, my daughter got her electricity for nothing
for several years for this reason. She repeatedly tried to find who
her supplier was to no avail. As a result she *didn't* get a huge
backdated bill when it was finally sorted out because only one
year's worth was chargeable.

Yes - the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a
torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in - not gonna happen.

Yes it is when they install your smartmeter.

And if you refuse to allow them to do that, they
will pull the plug on your electricity and gas.

On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:33:05 UTC, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:20:10 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a
torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in

The gas operator can apply for a warrant to enter the premises, by force
if necessary.

They need no warrants.
When the gas/electricity is signed up for there is a right of entry clause. For emergencies and anything else that crops up.
Has been for yonks.

Great - I'd love to meet the boys at last.

http://www.dcbltd.com/cant-pay-take-it-away/agents/

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:33:05 UTC, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:20:10 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a
torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in

The gas operator can apply for a warrant to enter the premises, by
force
if necessary.

They need no warrants.
When the gas/electricity is signed up for there is a right of entry
clause. For emergencies and anything else that crops up.
Has been for yonks.

Great - I'd love to meet the boys at last.

http://www.dcbltd.com/cant-pay-take-it-away/agents/


I like Delroy.....so well mannered

On Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:44:28 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Great - I'd love to meet the boys at last.

http://www.dcbltd.com/cant-pay-take-it-away/agents/


I like Delroy.....so well mannered

Are you William George Cartwright?

No - he moved out last month.

Why have you opened a letter addressed to him then?

He asked me to.

So you know his new address then?

Yes, it's 15 Acacia Drive, Batley.

According to the electoral roll, a Cynthia Phillips has lived there since 1988.
Are you William then?

YES.

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Sunday, 13 November 2016 18:44:28 UTC, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
Great - I'd love to meet the boys at last.

http://www.dcbltd.com/cant-pay-take-it-away/agents/


I like Delroy.....so well mannered

Are you William George Cartwright?

No - he moved out last month.

Why have you opened a letter addressed to him then?

He asked me to.

So you know his new address then?

Yes, it's 15 Acacia Drive, Batley.

According to the electoral roll, a Cynthia Phillips has lived there since
1988.
Are you William then?

YES.
classic

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:33:05 UTC, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 13 November 2016 16:20:10 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

the ONLY way I will ever get charged is if BG employ a guy with a
torch and clipboard to bang on my door when I am in

The gas operator can apply for a warrant to enter the premises, by
force
if necessary.

They need no warrants.
When the gas/electricity is signed up for there is a right of entry
clause.
For emergencies and anything else that crops up.
Has been for yonks.

Great - I'd love to meet the boys at last.

http://www.dcbltd.com/cant-pay-take-it-away/agents/

It'll be the giulia they are grabbing, you watch.

In article ,
Simon Mason writes
On 2SEP16, I decided to swap my electricity to British Gas so that I
could have free leccy on Sat or Sun 0900-1700 for a sauna etc.

It is now 12NOV16 and I have not found how to submit a meter reading,
nor can I find how I am paying for it, so at the moment I seem to be
getting free electricity anyway, so I am filling my boots with free
saunas 5 days a week.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxCg-VJWEAAZ1a7.jpg

AIUI the free leccy was conditional on you having a smart meter so no
need for you to submit bills. I suspect you are in for a ride awakening.
--
bert

In article ,
Simon Mason writes
On Saturday, 12 November 2016 11:02:06 UTC, Michael Chare wrote:

Are you sure that your previous supplier has closed your account and you
have a final bill.

I logged onto npower on 1OCT16 and it said "this account is now closed".
Ah well if npower are involved anything can happen.
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bert

En el artículo , Jethro_uk
escribió:

You'd be less smug

I don't think that's possible.

I can just see people queuing up to smack him across the face with a
variety of implements, like that scene in Airplane!

He's a troll, best ignored.

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