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On 09/11/2016 15:06, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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On 09/11/2016 02:16, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 02:08:36 -0000, John Rumm
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Some agents will do "open house" type viewings like that as
well -
especially for places likely to be in high demand... the better
ones
will schedule 20 min slots for each set of viewers, but with a 5
min
overlap. That avoids having a negative viewer putting off other
buyers,
but still makes each potential buyer "aware" of the other viewers
arriving or leaving etc. Helps shift their expectations from
"what
is
the lowest offer they are likely to accept for this place?" to
"What
will we need to offer to win it from all the other viewers?"

I seem to remember some weird rules about not being allowed to
tell
one
potential buyer what another has offered. All very strange.

Would you want a company you are dealing with to tell strangers
details
of your financial transactions and offers?

They are allowed to tell a prospective buyer that there are already
higher offers under consideration - that's all they need to know
really.

I'm referring to if I want to buy your house, them refusing to tell
me
if I've made an offer high enough.

They will normally tell you if there are already better offers - they
are just not allowed to tell you exactly what they are. Remember the
agent is working for the seller, not the buyer.

In which case they should be informing me I have to make a higher
offer,
so the seller gets more.

Yes, and they do. They just arent allowed to tell you
exactly what the other higher offer is price wise.

Makes no difference really.

Corse it does. If all you know is that you are too low,
you are more likely to offer a higher price than if you
know exactly what someone else has offered.

I just offer slightly higher until the expression changes on his face.

Doesn't work with agents.

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On 08/11/16 20:43, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 19:14:09 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
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Murmansk wrote:
My house is in an area where they sell really easily so I'm
thinking
of using

https://www.visum.co.uk/Pricing/Sales

All I want is for my house to appear on Rightmove and this seems
the
cheapest way to achieve that - once I've found interested buyers
I
can do the rest myself.

A bloke about a mile away from me tried something similar.
Nothing happened.

I've seen houses for sale (in decent areas) with just a mobile
number
on
a home made sign. Not sure where they advertised, but they sold
as
quick as any estate agent ones.


Apart from exposure and showing people around (the latter is
eminently
DIYable), Estate Agents off nothing else of value.

And the security side of the process (checks, surveys etc) are
handled
by others and would be done just the same for a non agent advert -
so
really, if you can get the eyeballs on your house and have the time
to
show people around and answer the phone, there's no disadvantage.

Depends how easy and cheap it is to advertise on the main websites.
I
assume the estate agents have discounts.

Right Move's pricing tends to work on a fixed price per agent for as
many
listings as you like

this kind of makes it expensive to advertise a single property

They wont accept listing from individuals anyway, that is why the
internet
sellers have sprung up to fill the gap

You can actually advertise your house on the likes of Gumtree.

Someone is doing it on the local facebook community notice board
group with inspections most saturdays. Has been for a couple of
months now, going to be interesting to see how she goes.

I do not understand people selling things n facebook.

That's not all you don't understand.

It's a SOCIAL media, not a selling one.

Wrong. Its all of that an much more. The buy sell swap groups
leave freecycle and craigs list for dead. Vast numbers of retail
operations use it to communicate with their customers too.

It's not designed to work like that.

Wrong, as always. In fact facebook themselves include
popups in the buy sell swap groups that allow you to
search facebook wide for what you are looking to buy.

Ebay is the only place I buy things apart from physical supermarkets.

More fool you. Facebook buy sell swap groups leave
Craig's list and Freecycle etc for dead. Having a big
impact on garage and car boot sales too.

And aliexpress, alibaba and amazon
all have real advantages over ebay too.

And just sent me a survey yesterday asking me how I
feel about buying grocerys and fresh food on ebay too.

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I can't think of another cost that great associated with moving.


SDLT can be much more, depending on property value.

Wasn't that removed decades ago?

Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamp_...uty_Land_T ax

Just doesn't apply in where you hairy legged cross dressers/streakers
infest.

Our laws tend to be more sensible. Why should the government get
paid when we move house?

Pillock.

Answer the question. If you moved house tomorrow, the government would
not help you. Why should you pay them to move?

You don't.

Tax is paying the government.

You don't pay the govt when you move.

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On 08/11/16 23:04, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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Depends how easy and cheap it is to advertise on the main
websites.
I
assume the estate agents have discounts. Anyway, what does an
estate
agent charge nowadays? It might not be worth the bother of
avoiding
them.


A bloody fortune!

I've only ever bought a house, and that cost me £300 in 2000. I
assumed
selling cost about the same.

Estate Agents charge anywhere upto 3.5%. So your £200k flat is
costing
£7000 in fees which the seller pays.

Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Many in London etc.

Morons.

Beats flogging tupperware door to door.

Whatever you do, you have to do 5 times more of it to own the same house
in London.

Nope, just have a decent well paying job.

With more noise, more smell, more people.

But far fewer cross dressing hairy legged apes and streakers.

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On 09/11/2016 15:05, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

I can't think of another cost that great associated with moving.


SDLT can be much more, depending on property value.

Wasn't that removed decades ago?

Nope.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamp_...uty_Land_T ax

Just doesn't apply where you hairy legged cross dressers/streakers
infest.

Our laws tend to be more sensible.

You lot are parasites on the rest of the country.

Their problem.

Nope, yours when they leave the EU and you lot stay in it.

Even you should have noticed that they
wont be sending you a penny after that.

Why should the government get paid when we move house?

It doesn't. It only gets paid when the ownership of the house changes.

One of those happens at the same time as the other.

Wrong when the ownership of the place doesn't change.

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On 09/11/2016 15:08, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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On 08/11/16 23:04, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
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Depends how easy and cheap it is to advertise on the main
websites.
I
assume the estate agents have discounts. Anyway, what does an
estate
agent charge nowadays? It might not be worth the bother of
avoiding
them.


A bloody fortune!

I've only ever bought a house, and that cost me £300 in 2000. I
assumed
selling cost about the same.

Estate Agents charge anywhere upto 3.5%. So your £200k flat is
costing
£7000 in fees which the seller pays.

Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

What a stupid place to live.

Better employment prospects than where you 'live'

To pay a London mortgage, you'd need to get paid five times as much.

But the work is a tad more interesting that flogging tupperware door to
door.

The work is the same.

Like hell it is for those with decent qualifications.

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On 09/11/2016 15:08, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 07:08:52 -0000, Tim Watts
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On 08/11/16 23:04, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2016 22:47:39 -0000, Tim Watts

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Depends how easy and cheap it is to advertise on the main
websites.
I
assume the estate agents have discounts. Anyway, what does an
estate
agent charge nowadays? It might not be worth the bother of
avoiding
them.


A bloody fortune!

I've only ever bought a house, and that cost me £300 in 2000. I
assumed
selling cost about the same.

Estate Agents charge anywhere upto 3.5%. So your £200k flat is
costing
£7000 in fees which the seller pays.

Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

Why on earth would you want to live in a building shared with others
unless you're really poor?

Or you are stinking rich and don't want
to have to fart around with a yard etc.

Why spend your life indoors?

They don't.

They don't own any land.

They don't need to.

On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated overpriced cities.

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On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


.... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and certainly
don't live in this country.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:12:16 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and certainly
don't live in this country.

London is full of immigrants.

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On 18/11/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:12:16 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and certainly
don't live in this country.

London is full of immigrants.

But most don't own their houses. What I was referring to was:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/london...eigners-2015-9

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:24:22 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 18/11/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:12:16 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and certainly
don't live in this country.

London is full of immigrants.

But most don't own their houses. What I was referring to was:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/london...eigners-2015-9

Yes they do: "all the nicest buildings in the best areas around Hyde Park and Kensington Gardens are now owned by foreigners" from your own link!

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On 18/11/2016 22:36, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:24:22 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 18/11/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:12:16 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB
wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and certainly
don't live in this country.

London is full of immigrants.

But most don't own their houses. What I was referring to was:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/london...eigners-2015-9


Yes they do: "all the nicest buildings in the best areas around Hyde
Park and Kensington Gardens are now owned by foreigners" from your own
link!

My link refers to foreigners, not immigrants...

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 08:09:25 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 18/11/2016 22:36, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:24:22 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 18/11/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:12:16 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB
wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and certainly
don't live in this country.

London is full of immigrants.

But most don't own their houses. What I was referring to was:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/london...eigners-2015-9


Yes they do: "all the nicest buildings in the best areas around Hyde
Park and Kensington Gardens are now owned by foreigners" from your own
link!

My link refers to foreigners, not immigrants...

You must immigrate to be a foreigner.

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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 08:09:25 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 18/11/2016 22:36, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:24:22 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 18/11/2016 20:14, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:12:16 -0000, JoeJoe wrote:

On 17/11/2016 23:20, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:46:25 -0000, GB
wrote:


Who the hell pays that for a FLAT?!

Quite right. Very hard to find flats as cheap as that in London.

I'll just add that I think the prices are bonkers, and it makes
life
enormously difficult for younger people, trying to buy somewhere to
live.

All they need to do is go north away form the stupidly overpopulated
overpriced cities.


... and where the vast majority of buyers are not British and
certainly
don't live in this country.

London is full of immigrants.

But most don't own their houses. What I was referring to was:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/london...eigners-2015-9


Yes they do: "all the nicest buildings in the best areas around Hyde
Park and Kensington Gardens are now owned by foreigners" from your own
link!

My link refers to foreigners, not immigrants...

You must immigrate to be a foreigner.

Nope, foreigners who visit don't immigrate, they just visit.