In article ,
Huge wrote:
I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

If the stairs are wide enough, remove the taps and invert the bath, tie a
rope to it and slide it down. The reverse got mine upstairs. ;-) Then some
cut up broom handles to roll it the rest of the way.

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.

Think you'd need a sledge hammer.

BTW, how do you tell the difference between stone cutting & metal
cutting discs once the labels have come off?

Looking at new ones, I can't.

--
*They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

"Huge" wrote in message
...
I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.

I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective. Mind you,
I'd bet that if you were trying to move one in, it would shatter if you
lowered it gently onto a thick foam mattress.

Colin Bignell

"Huge" wrote in message
I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no
effect and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.

There must be a vintage when they were still popular but the thickness had
been reduced to save money, maybe those break with a few well aimed blows.
1904 examples seem bloody thick. Felt like a demented Quasimodo, all I
needed to do was hit it just a bit harder. I regained focus after the
blood-head-rush had subsided.

A 4lb club made no difference to mine, it had to be broken, there was no way
to get it round the corner otherwise. Used the angle grinder to make cuts in
the edges then when the blade started wearing away rather quickly, changed
to a dotted line.

BTW, how do you tell the difference between stone cutting & metal
cutting discs once the labels have come off?
Permanent marker near the centre. Alt: Two angle grinders? Or just stick to
diamond disks for stone.

--
Toby.

'One day son, all this will be finished'

nightjar
I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective. Mind you,
I'd bet that if you were trying to move one in, it would shatter if you
lowered it gently onto a thick foam mattress.

Anyone tried a pickaxe?


--
Chris
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On 1 Feb 2004 17:40:07 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Chris Hodges writes:
nightjar
I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective. Mind you,
I'd bet that if you were trying to move one in, it would shatter if you
lowered it gently onto a thick foam mattress.

Anyone tried a pickaxe?

Too late. It's all in the orchard.

Well, I've torn out the vile bathroom. The plasterer is coming next
week and the new suite and shower are coming in the next few days. I
have 2 weeks vacation time to fit it all, starting the 9th Feb.

Sod me, but I'm buggered.

It would appear that I am no longer 18.

(


Shock to the system isn't it? :-)

Go pour yourself a well-earned beer......



..andy

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Huge typed:

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no
effect

Sod me, but I'm buggered.

It would appear that I am no longer 18.


Ahh but when I was 18 and took a cast iron bath out, I turned it upside down
and just slid it down the stairs.

Unfortunately it went straight through the dodgy hallway floorboards and
into the cellar below.
Older and wiser does have some compensation.
:-)

wlb is too small, you need to *REALLY* enjoy yourself, with a sledge hammer .........

On 1 Feb 2004 14:03:07 GMT, (Huge) wrote:
I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.

BTW, how do you tell the difference between stone cutting & metal
cutting discs once the labels have come off?

--
"The road to Paradise is through Intercourse."
[email me at huge [at] huge [dot] org [dot] uk]

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:17:38 -0000, "Mark"
wrote:

Ahh but when I was 18 and took a cast iron bath out, I turned it upside down
and just slid it down the stairs.

Unfortunately it went straight through the dodgy hallway floorboards and
into the cellar below.

ROFLMAO!

Older and wiser does have some compensation.

No, it brings mirth so much easier when you hear about stories like
this!

PoP

Sending email to my published email address isn't
guaranteed to reach me.

Huge wrote:

Dave Plowman writes:
In article ,
Huge wrote:
I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

If the stairs are wide enough, remove the taps and invert the bath, tie a
rope to it and slide it down.

My stairway has 2 x 90 degree bends in it. It won't fit.

Was the house built around the bath? Or did it come in kit form for assembly
in situ???

Just curious

;-) Richard

On 1 Feb 2004 17:40:07 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

Chris Hodges writes:
nightjar
I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective. Mind you,
I'd bet that if you were trying to move one in, it would shatter if you
lowered it gently onto a thick foam mattress.

Anyone tried a pickaxe?

Too late. It's all in the orchard.

Well, I've torn out the vile bathroom. The plasterer is coming next
week and the new suite and shower are coming in the next few days. I
have 2 weeks vacation time to fit it all, starting the 9th Feb.

Sod me, but I'm buggered.

Interesting turn of phrase.

It would appear that I am no longer 18.

Just 18 stone ?

On reflection, I think paying a couple of guys to remove one old cast iron
bath and matching (lemon yellow...) basin and loo, and fit modern
replacements was worth the money. Ignore the cynics, there is nothing wrong
with a decent thick acrylic bath, other than a tendency to mark if you drop
something heavy and sharp in (what my kids get up to, I don't know). I
bought an extra-length one as sitting in a airline-cattle-class position,
knees around head, is not my idea of relaxation.

--
Like I said before, I don't repeat myself!

Mail john rather than nospam...

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 21:27:35 +0000, Richard Savage
wrote:

Was the house built around the bath? Or did it come in kit form for assembly
in situ???

It could have been carried up when the house was built, and before the
stair ballustrades etc were installed.

Alternatively a helicopter might have doe the trick before the roof
was put on.

Tsk, beginners

PoP

Sending email to my published email address isn't
guaranteed to reach me.

Huge wrote:

I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


You wimp. Put sme BACK into it.

Use a 4lb sledge!
Wear ear defenders.



BTW, how do you tell the difference between stone cutting & metal
cutting discs once the labels have come off?

nightjar

"Huge" wrote in message
...

I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective.


The bath won't crack with gentle taps.

You need to use those atroophied things called muscles.

Paint a picture of IMM and Toby Blair on it and THEN use a sledge.

Mind you,
I'd bet that if you were trying to move one in, it would shatter if you
lowered it gently onto a thick foam mattress.

Colin Bignell

Chris Hodges wrote:

nightjar

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.



I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective. Mind you,
I'd bet that if you were trying to move one in, it would shatter if you
lowered it gently onto a thick foam mattress.


Anyone tried a pickaxe?



I used a sledge and every ounce of muscle power I possess. It broke.

Once started its easier to finish.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
nightjar

"Huge" wrote in message
...

I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective.


The bath won't crack with gentle taps.

You need to use those atroophied things called muscles.

I have the sledge from blacksmithing. However, if I had taken as big a swing
in the bathroom as I did in the smithy, I would have enlarged the bathroom
at the same time.

Colin Bignell

4lb, put some real back into it

4KG is better, and METRIC.

Rick

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 09:15:44 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Huge wrote:

I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


You wimp. Put sme BACK into it.

Use a 4lb sledge!
Wear ear defenders.



BTW, how do you tell the difference between stone cutting & metal
cutting discs once the labels have come off?

Huge wrote:

The Natural Philosopher writes:

Huge wrote:


I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


You wimp. Put sme BACK into it.

Use a 4lb sledge!
Wear ear defenders.


Ear defenders, goggles, gloves & safety shoes. I'm too old to believe
in my own immortality.


Yep. All of those.

ear defenders top, I wear glasses so that's OK, gloves for carrying the
shards (very sharp) Safety shoes marginal.

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:43:14 -0000, "nightjar"
wrote:


"Huge" wrote in message
...
I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.

I can assure you that a 7lb sledge hammer is no more effective.

Dunno how heavy my sledge hammer is but it's done for a couple of cast
iron baths now (and one shower pump that got in the way underneath
:-()

Ear defenders and safety specs a must - and that's from one of the
"bit of noise|muck in the eyes|electricity|radiation|nerve gas|WMD
never hurt anyone" school :-)

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
....

ear defenders top, I wear glasses so that's OK,

All that means is that you can get shards of glass or plastic in your eye as
well. Glasses will stop light particles, but are no protection against
anything with any real energy.

Colin Bignell

Dave Plowman wrote:
Huge wrote:

BTW, how do you tell the difference between stone cutting & metal
cutting discs once the labels have come off?

The stone ones disappear rapidly on metal :-)

Dont ask me how I know ...

P.

The Natural Philosopher wrote in message ...
Huge wrote:

I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


You wimp. Put sme BACK into it.

Use a 4lb sledge!
Wear ear defenders.


Well I find this all very depressing; I took my CI bath out - I
rebuilt the bathroom and then put it back and had one of these guys
come in a repaint it. It's a lovely bath and I wouldn't have anything
else but it. I think you're all a load of vandals.

Who's for the Save the Cast Iron Baths Society (SCIBS)

Rob

In article ,
Rob Graham wrote:
Well I find this all very depressing; I took my CI bath out - I
rebuilt the bathroom and then put it back and had one of these guys
come in a repaint it. It's a lovely bath and I wouldn't have anything
else but it. I think you're all a load of vandals.

Who's for the Save the Cast Iron Baths Society (SCIBS)

When I took out my tatty cast iron bath and replaced it with a new one, I
left the old one in the front garden ready for disposal. But didn't need
to - it got nicked. It was probably Victorian, but in poor condition and
far too small.

--
*Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman wrote:

In article ,
Rob Graham wrote:

Well I find this all very depressing; I took my CI bath out - I
rebuilt the bathroom and then put it back and had one of these guys
come in a repaint it. It's a lovely bath and I wouldn't have anything
else but it. I think you're all a load of vandals.


Who's for the Save the Cast Iron Baths Society (SCIBS)


When I took out my tatty cast iron bath and replaced it with a new one, I
left the old one in the front garden ready for disposal. But didn't need
to - it got nicked. It was probably Victorian, but in poor condition and
far too small.



My old cast iron bath was pink. And the enamel was worn.

And could not be removed without being broken up, or using a crane and a
window.

It had maybe 100 quid value.

Of course, after a 500 quid re-enamel, it would have gone for 800 quid.
In a reclaim store.

Cost benefit showed it was easier to sledge it and scrap it.

On 4 Feb 2004 19:52:25 GMT, (Huge) wrote:

(Rob Graham) writes:
The Natural Philosopher wrote in message ...
Huge wrote:

I'm just removing the one in our main bathroom (well, OK, I'm getting
my breath back & cooling down after carrying 1/3 of it downstairs).

I thought cast iron was fragile? A 2lb club hammer is having no effect
and I'm having to cut through the edges with an angle grinder.


You wimp. Put sme BACK into it.

Use a 4lb sledge!
Wear ear defenders.


Well I find this all very depressing; I took my CI bath out - I
rebuilt the bathroom and then put it back and had one of these guys
come in a repaint it. It's a lovely bath and I wouldn't have anything
else but it. I think you're all a load of vandals.

If it had been white, I'd have kept it. It wasn't, it was cranberry. We
didn't call it the "vile bathroom" for no good reason, you know.

Was the rest cranberry as well??

I like cranberries (preferably with suitable alcohol added) at
Christmas, but you don't really want it at 7am on a February morning,
do you?

..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:15:37 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman
wrote:

When I took out my tatty cast iron bath and replaced it with a new one, I
left the old one in the front garden ready for disposal. But didn't need
to - it got nicked. It was probably Victorian, but in poor condition and
far too small.

Sometimes pikeys serve a useful purpose (testing Tony Martins shotgun
being one of them ). I expect it might have been filched to take
down the scrap metal merchants to make a few bob.

PoP

Sending email to my published email address isn't
guaranteed to reach me.

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 22:32:43 +0000, Andy Hall
wrote:

I like cranberries (preferably with suitable alcohol added) at
Christmas, but you don't really want it at 7am on a February morning,
do you?

February seems to be awfully mild this year - I was working in my
garage yesterday afternoon with the door open. No woolly pully, just
shirt (and jeans, obviously) protecting me from the elements.

Someone remind me - this is the first week of February isn't it?

PoP

Sending email to my published email address isn't
guaranteed to reach me.

In article ,
PoP wrote:
Sometimes pikeys serve a useful purpose (testing Tony Martins shotgun
being one of them ). I expect it might have been filched to take
down the scrap metal merchants to make a few bob.

I'd have said it was worth more being re-conditioned and sold on rather
than just scrapping.

--
*Life is hard; then you nap

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

In article ,
PoP wrote:
February seems to be awfully mild this year - I was working in my
garage yesterday afternoon with the door open. No woolly pully, just
shirt (and jeans, obviously) protecting me from the elements.

It's only just started. Plenty of time for more cold weather. Some
forecast for the weekend.

--
*There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman wrote:

In article ,
PoP wrote:

Sometimes pikeys serve a useful purpose (testing Tony Martins shotgun
being one of them ). I expect it might have been filched to take
down the scrap metal merchants to make a few bob.


I'd have said it was worth more being re-conditioned and sold on rather
than just scrapping.



Yes, provided the ost of getting it out in one piece doesn't wipe out
teh profit.

In article , PoP
wrote:
February seems to be awfully mild this year - I was working in
my garage yesterday afternoon with the door open. No woolly
pully, just shirt (and jeans, obviously) protecting me from the
elements.

It just happens: two or three Januarys back I walked to the bank
in a tee shirt; our then new church hall heaters were first used
one July 12. Last year was amazing for lack of rain: I replanted
my garden about this time thinking that the plants would get
properly watered in before the summer and we had next to no real
rain for about 9 months - or so it seemed.

--
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"Andy Hall" wrote
| (Huge) wrote:
| If it had been white, I'd have kept it. It wasn't, it was cranberry.
| We didn't call it the "vile bathroom" for no good reason, you know.
| Was the rest cranberry as well??
| I like cranberries (preferably with suitable alcohol added) at
| Christmas, but you don't really want it at 7am on a February morning,
| do you?

Cranberry better than some.

Moved into a house with a Pampas bathroom my father immediately named Baby
Diarrhoea.

Owain