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IMM fodder
John Rumm wrote:
Ben Blaney wrote: Or maybe my memory is playing up, but I could have sworn the IMF had to bail out the Calleghan government as a result of the complete horlicks they made of the economy... There was slightly more to it than you imply. I appreciate that - was just keeping it simple for IMM - complex explanations seem to go straight over his head. ;-) Typical laber votah then. "Vote us in and we will give you lots of free sweeties and tackle those nasty school prefects and teachers who think that just because they are older and smarter than you that gves them the right to tell you not to throw stones at passing cars" |
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Hutton, the real facts.
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... |
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Ashley Stevens wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. |
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Hutton, the real facts.
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:07:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Ashley Stevens wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. Yours seemed a reasonable one as well, although I would have included that it's not clear that a third party was not involved as opposed to suicide. In a manner of speaking, a third party was....... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Hutton, the real facts.
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Ashley Stevens wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. Yoiu telling porkies now. |
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"PoP" wrote in message ... On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 23:23:58 +0000, John Rumm wrote: For the benefit of our readers we are proud to present the: IMM to English Dictionary (concise edition) You forgot the constant reference to the Vicar of Dibley, a TV program to which he seems besotted, and which he firmly believes a number of our active forum community are role players within. I'm sure you belly laugh at this programme. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... John Rumm wrote: Ben Blaney wrote: Or maybe my memory is playing up, but I could have sworn the IMF had to bail out the Calleghan government as a result of the complete horlicks they made of the economy... There was slightly more to it than you imply. I appreciate that - was just keeping it simple for IMM - complex explanations seem to go straight over his head. ;-) Typical laber votah then. "Vote us in and we will give you lots of free sweeties and tackle those nasty school prefects and teachers who think that just because they are older and smarter than you that gves them the right to tell you not to throw stones at passing cars" LOL, such fun this snotty uni stuff. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Typical laber votah then. "Vote us in and we will give you lots of free sweeties and tackle those nasty school prefects and teachers who think that just because they are older and smarter than you that gves them the right to tell you not to throw stones at passing cars" I'd suggest you talk to a few teachers about which party f**ked about with education the most... -- *Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now * Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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PoP wrote:
For the benefit of our readers we are proud to present the: IMM to English Dictionary (concise edition) You forgot the constant reference to the Vicar of Dibley, a TV program to which he seems besotted, and which he firmly believes a number of our active forum community are role players within. True - but I did pick up on that in antother part of the thread though.... I wonder which VoD character most resembles IMM? no no no I mean yes.... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Hutton, the real facts.
IMM wrote in message ... "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Ashley Stevens wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. Yoiu telling porkies now. Finally something I can read in 5 minutes that tells me most of the important facts in this thing. I suppose the question remains; If they didn't go to war because of a threat or to help the Iraquis, why did they? It is pretty obvious who the main protagonist of this war was, George Bush. It seems just as obvioyus that he asked his 'old pal' Tony to give the war a bit of legitimacy with at least one other (major?) nation's troops involved. The question remains what did Tony and Co. get in return? What did they sell our soldiers lives for, and the lives of thousands of Iraquis? Too cynical? Maybe. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.573 / Virus Database: 363 - Release Date: 28/01/04 |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... Every Tory government since the war has left the country in an economic mess, while Labour have left office with it sound. FACT! Seemed to be going OK in 1997. |
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Hutton, great report
"jusuk" wrote in message news  IMM wrote in message ... "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Ashley Stevens wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. You telling porkies now. Finally something I can read in 5 minutes that tells me most of the important facts in this thing. I suppose the question remains; If they didn't go to war because of a threat or to help the Iraquis, why did they? ? It is pretty obvious who the main protagonist of this war was, George Bush. It seems just as obvioyus that he asked his 'old pal' Tony to give the war a bit of legitimacy with at least one other (major?) nation's troops involved. The question remains what did Tony and Co. get in return? What did they sell our soldiers lives for, and the lives of thousands of Iraquis? Too cynical? Maybe. |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message ... PoP wrote: For the benefit of our readers we are proud to present the: IMM to English Dictionary (concise edition) You forgot the constant reference to the Vicar of Dibley, a TV program to which he seems besotted, and which he firmly believes a number of our active forum community are role players within. True - but I did pick up on that in antother part of the thread though.... I wonder which VoD character most resembles IMM? no no no I mean yes.... Do you actually watch that TV prog? My, my! |
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... Every Tory government since the war has left the country in an economic mess, while Labour have left office with it sound. FACT! Seemed to be going OK in 1997. Blair inherited a hell of a lot of Major's debt. |
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"IMM" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... Every Tory government since the war has left the country in an economic mess, while Labour have left office with it sound. FACT! Seemed to be going OK in 1997. Blair inherited a hell of a lot of Major's debt. According to the DMO:- Year Total (£mn) 1996 262 261 1997 290 259 1998 297 366 1999 291 788 2000 290 631 2001 281 720 2002 278 720 2003 292 709 1996 is the last full year of Major's government. 1997 is half-and-half, so no conculsions can be drawn about that year. So, while you are correct to say that the Major years left a lot of debt behind, Brown has only added to it. Not to mention off-balance sheet financing, of course. |
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"Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... "Neil Jones" wrote in message ... "IMM" wrote in message ... Every Tory government since the war has left the country in an economic mess, while Labour have left office with it sound. FACT! Seemed to be going OK in 1997. Blair inherited a hell of a lot of Major's debt. According to the DMO:- Year Total (£mn) 1996 262 261 1997 290 259 1998 297 366 1999 291 788 2000 290 631 2001 281 720 2002 278 720 2003 292 709 1996 is the last full year of Major's government. 1997 is half-and-half, so no conculsions can be drawn about that year. So, while you are correct to say that the Major years left a lot of debt behind, Brown has only added to it. By not much. |
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Neil Jones wrote: According to the DMO:- Year Total (£mn) 1996 262 261 1997 290 259 1998 297 366 1999 291 788 2000 290 631 2001 281 720 2002 278 720 2003 292 709 1996 is the last full year of Major's government. 1997 is half-and-half, so no conculsions can be drawn about that year. So, while you are correct to say that the Major years left a lot of debt behind, Brown has only added to it. Err, by the figures you've given, the trend in the last two years of Tory rule was up - as earlier figures would prove, and down under Brown, with the exception of '03. The '03 figure may have been influenced by the Iraq fiasco. -- *If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil. Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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Hutton, the real facts.
Andy Hall wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:07:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Ashley Stevens wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. Yours seemed a reasonable one as well, although I would have included that it's not clear that a third party was not involved as opposed to suicide. In a manner of speaking, a third party was....... That is definitely a hypothesis, but to paraphrase Occam, "one should not multiply conspiracy theories and paranoia, beyond necessity" In my life, more has been explained by hypothesising weak, stupid, vain men (and women), acting out of desperation, than has ever been seen to be the result of deep and cunning conspiracy. Mind you, maybe Tony Blair and GWB ARE actually aliens, which would account for the fact that they seem to live on a differet planet from the rest of us...and the conspiracy is so cunning I simply haven't spotted it...Perhaps Iraq is the one source of Kryptonite left in the known universe. However I prefer to think they just got carried away with themselves and their self importance. .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Hutton, the real facts.
jusuk wrote:
IMM wrote in message ... "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Ashley Stevens wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... Yes, but the difference is that I actually looked at the evidence, and drew a conclusion, whlst the evidence showed that he arrived at a conclusion, and doctored the evidence. Yoiu telling porkies now. Finally something I can read in 5 minutes that tells me most of the important facts in this thing. I suppose the question remains; If they didn't go to war because of a threat or to help the Iraquis, why did they? It is pretty obvious who the main protagonist of this war was, George Bush. It seems just as obvioyus that he asked his 'old pal' Tony to give the war a bit of legitimacy with at least one other (major?) nation's troops involved. The question remains what did Tony and Co. get in return? What did they sell our soldiers lives for, and the lives of thousands of Iraquis? Too cynical? Maybe. I don't know. Best guesses lie somewhere between 'Oil' and 'neo conservative dogma' and 'headless chickens post 911' and 'Mossad supplied the intelligence for reasons of their own' and 'no-one disses the USA by flying its own planes as cruise missiles, and Iraq is vagueley Arabic, and the only country post Afghanistan, that was weak enough to attack, and win, without politically unacceptable loss of (american)life, and a huge backlash' Plus the fact that it clearly demonstrates who is alpha bitch (hi there, condoleeza) and puts the fear of cruise missiles up the rest of the region.... I suspect it was a bit of all of the above. A sort of 'No one messes with us, so lets make Amerika WALK TALL and show those sand ******s (or is it towel heads) who not to mess with'...typical reaction of weak stupid men, promoted beyind their levels of competence. NO one really seems to have assessed what would happen AFTER the war was won... Now we here the intelligence services are going to be hung out to dry. George and Tony will either be found to be culpable of bending the facts, or being conned. Dubya can probably survive being thought a fool. He has so far. Tony won't. I have cheered up immensely. Hutton has done the country a HUGE service by exposing all the evidence, and then coming to a blatantly biased conclusion. It does Tone far more damage than if he had had his knuckles lightly rapped :-) No one will believe Hutton wasn't 'subconsciously affected' at the least. Even if he, out of sheer malice, decided that a whitewash was the very best way of shafting Tone and Campbell, who is going to credit him with that level of subtlety? By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. :-) |
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Hutton, the real facts.
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:40:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Andy Hall wrote: That is definitely a hypothesis, but to paraphrase Occam, "one should not multiply conspiracy theories and paranoia, beyond necessity" In my life, more has been explained by hypothesising weak, stupid, vain men (and women), acting out of desperation, than has ever been seen to be the result of deep and cunning conspiracy. Mind you, maybe Tony Blair and GWB ARE actually aliens, which would account for the fact that they seem to live on a differet planet from the rest of us...and the conspiracy is so cunning I simply haven't spotted it...Perhaps Iraq is the one source of Kryptonite left in the known universe. However I prefer to think they just got carried away with themselves and their self importance. I'm sure you're right, although if a third party was involved, it didn't have to be at TB's behest. ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Hutton, the real facts.
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:56:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: I have cheered up immensely. Hutton has done the country a HUGE service by exposing all the evidence, and then coming to a blatantly biased conclusion. It does Tone far more damage than if he had had his knuckles lightly rapped :-) No one will believe Hutton wasn't 'subconsciously affected' at the least. Even if he, out of sheer malice, decided that a whitewash was the very best way of shafting Tone and Campbell, who is going to credit him with that level of subtlety? Not many people, but it is a consideration. By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. ..... and at that point it will blow up big time. Of course it doesn't need to be related to this at all. There is an amusing irony at the prospect of Mr. TB being stung by the very thing that he has sought to manipulate. :-) ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Hutton, the real facts.
Andy Hall wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:40:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Andy Hall wrote: That is definitely a hypothesis, but to paraphrase Occam, "one should not multiply conspiracy theories and paranoia, beyond necessity" In my life, more has been explained by hypothesising weak, stupid, vain men (and women), acting out of desperation, than has ever been seen to be the result of deep and cunning conspiracy. Mind you, maybe Tony Blair and GWB ARE actually aliens, which would account for the fact that they seem to live on a differet planet from the rest of us...and the conspiracy is so cunning I simply haven't spotted it...Perhaps Iraq is the one source of Kryptonite left in the known universe. However I prefer to think they just got carried away with themselves and their self importance. I'm sure you're right, although if a third party was involved, it didn't have to be at TB's behest. "Who will rid me of this turbulent priest" :-( .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Hutton, the real facts.
Andy Hall wrote:
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:56:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: I have cheered up immensely. Hutton has done the country a HUGE service by exposing all the evidence, and then coming to a blatantly biased conclusion. It does Tone far more damage than if he had had his knuckles lightly rapped :-) No one will believe Hutton wasn't 'subconsciously affected' at the least. Even if he, out of sheer malice, decided that a whitewash was the very best way of shafting Tone and Campbell, who is going to credit him with that level of subtlety? Not many people, but it is a consideration. By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. .... and at that point it will blow up big time. Of course it doesn't need to be related to this at all. There is an amusing irony at the prospect of Mr. TB being stung by the very thing that he has sought to manipulate. He met someone smarter than him. Hutton. At least I like to think so. :-) .andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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Hutton, the real facts.
In uk.d-i-y, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I have cheered up immensely. Hutton has done the country a HUGE service by exposing all the evidence, and then coming to a blatantly biased conclusion. It does Tone far more damage than if he had had his knuckles lightly rapped :-) No one will believe Hutton wasn't 'subconsciously affected' at the least. Even if he, out of sheer malice, decided that a whitewash was the very best way of shafting Tone and Campbell, who is going to credit him with that level of subtlety? It's a lovely thought that Hutton might've been quite such a subtil beast of the field, but I don't think it fits his history. From his time in Northern Ireland, he learnt to appreciate the intelligence services as a bulwark against organised terrorrism: and to view investigative journalists trying to cast doubt on the intelligence services and the government they serve are a royal pain in the fundament. Sitting on his own in this enquiry, he seems to have felt able to dissent from the (loose, judicial-precedent-set rather than legislated) current legal position on the necessary standard of proof concerning publishing allegations of lying by public figures, and taken the opportunity to send what he thought was a strong warning message to investigative journalist scum. As for the "subconscious influence" line, I think it's high time we had an inquiry into the susceptibility of the head of the JIC to such influences. Tinfoil hats all round! Alien mind beams implanting suggestions into the hindbrain of those who draw up the weekly intel. briefings!!! :-) Stefek |
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Hutton, the real facts.
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Andy Hall wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:56:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. It will make them be more accurate in their reporting. The media is full of lies and half truths passed off as truth. As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". |
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IMM wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Andy Hall wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:56:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. It will make them be more accurate in their reporting. The media is full of lies and half truths passed off as truth. And yet you believe every word in combi glssy brochures, and every word Tony says. What a strange split mind you have... As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Andy Hall wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:56:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. It will make them be more accurate in their reporting. The media is full of lies and half truths passed off as truth. And yet you believe every word in combi glssy brochures, Do I? and every word Tony says. Yes. As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said |
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IMM wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... IMM wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Andy Hall wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 18:56:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: By slamming into the Beeb, he now has stiffened the resolve of every journalist against the Government. No government can win if the whole media is against them. You can bet your bottom dollar that things are being excavated with malicious glee, but until there is a legally unassailable smoking gun, no one will publish...oh...I love it. It will make them be more accurate in their reporting. The media is full of lies and half truths passed off as truth. And yet you believe every word in combi glssy brochures, Do I? and every word Tony says. Yes. As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said So so, i'd say. The beeb said what the govt wanted it to say, to preevent more mass destruction of its staff. First time they have lied. |
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Hutton, Great report
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said So so, i'd say. The beeb said what the govt wanted it to say, to preevent more mass destruction of its staff. First time they have lied. What destruction of its staff. NO ONE was sacked!!! Hitting the post is nearly a goal. Very, very near. But it is NOT a goal. You may as well have hit the corner flag. A miss is a miss. Great report! |
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In message , Ashley Stevens
writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... No, it seems that in the face of overwhelming lack of evidence and bush doing an about turn, Bliar has had to admit there might be a failing somewhere I have yet to hear this from minimie -- geoff |
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jusuk writes Finally something I can read in 5 minutes that tells me most of the important facts in this thing. I suppose the question remains; If they didn't go to war because of a threat or to help the Iraquis, why did they? Just barrels of the blackstuff I suppose The war was planned and ready to go even before Bush was unelected to office -- geoff |
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IMM wrote: So so, i'd say. The beeb said what the govt wanted it to say, to preevent more mass destruction of its staff. First time they have lied. What destruction of its staff. NO ONE was sacked!!! There we have it, then. Dyke has said publicly that he was pushed, but IMM as usual knows better. -- *Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs. Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:00:29 -0000, "IMM" wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said So so, i'd say. The beeb said what the govt wanted it to say, to preevent more mass destruction of its staff. First time they have lied. What destruction of its staff. NO ONE was sacked!!! Hitting the post is nearly a goal. Very, very near. But it is NOT a goal. You may as well have hit the corner flag. A miss is a miss. Great report! I guess that if Hutton had flipped the coin the other way and believed the BBC's position that you would have said that it was a really bad report?? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:00:29 -0000, "IMM" wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said So so, i'd say. The beeb said what the govt wanted it to say, to preevent more mass destruction of its staff. First time they have lied. What destruction of its staff. NO ONE was sacked!!! Hitting the post is nearly a goal. Very, very near. But it is NOT a goal. You may as well have hit the corner flag. A miss is a miss. Great report! I guess that if Hutton had flipped the coin the other way and believed the BBC's position that you would have said that it was a really bad report?? Yes. Inaccurate reporting, and the poor checks/balances mechanisms to ensure accuracy, that was exposed by the report. The MOD got a little rapping for its failure to deal with the media properly. The BBC top brass failing to act after the reports went out is really a trivial matter, despite all the board wanting to resign. The reports should never have gone out in the first place; and that is the big probem. I hope it tightens up reporting all over, but I doubt it. They get away with murder. The inaccuracies and total distortions I have read over the years should not be allowed; one of the reasons I don't read newspapers too much as they are the biggest offenders. They all have to get their acts together, especially the TV/radio news people, as they have more influence than any other. |
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In message , IMM
writes It will make them be more accurate in their reporting. The media is full of lies and half truths passed off as truth. And yet you believe every word in combi glssy brochures, Do I? and every word Tony says. Yes. I would laugh if he told you to go and screw yourself As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said No that's not what it said -- geoff |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Ashley Stevens writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... No, it seems that in the face of overwhelming lack of evidence and bush doing an about turn, Bliar has had to admit there might be a failing somewhere I have yet to hear this from minimie Maxie, the UK intelligence people kept telling the government that WUD would be found. So they tell people that. TB doesn't look under rocks in the desert you know. If it appears there are no "smoking gun" WUD, then an inquiry has to set up. But the capability to get them zippo was there, which is the main point, and I'm sure that will come out. You don't need a smoking gun. |
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Hutton, the real facts.
"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , IMM writes It will make them be more accurate in their reporting. The media is full of lies and half truths passed off as truth. And yet you believe every word in combi glssy brochures, Do I? and every word Tony says. Yes. I would laugh if he told you to go and screw yourself Maxie, so would I. LOL, such fun. As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said No that's not what it said Maxie, it did. |
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In message , IMM
writes "geoff" wrote in message ... In message , Ashley Stevens writes The Natural Philosopher wrote: Its patently obvious what happened. You sound just like Tony Blair now.... No, it seems that in the face of overwhelming lack of evidence and bush doing an about turn, Bliar has had to admit there might be a failing somewhere I have yet to hear this from minimie Maxie, the UK intelligence people kept telling the government that WUD would be found. So they tell people that. TB doesn't look under rocks in the desert you know. Whatever intelligence he got, he should still have looked at the bigger picture. The letter I have posted on uk-diy isn't the only voice saying that his intelligence was false He made a grave error of judgement and one way or another will be answerable for it If it appears there are no "smoking gun" WUD, then an inquiry has to set up. But the capability to get them zippo was there, which is the main point, and I'm sure that will come out. You don't need a smoking gun. -- geoff |
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writes and every word Tony says. Yes. I would laugh if he told you to go and screw yourself Maxie, so would I. LOL, such fun. But you'd try and do what he told you wouldn't you As the acting boss of the BBC said "nearly right is not good enough for the BBC". Nearly right is better thaa complete lie. No so, the Beeb said No that's not what it said Maxie, it did. -- geoff |
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