As I understand it, it is illegal to leave your engine running when you
vacate the driving seat. The idea being concerns at the vehicle taking
off on its own, driverless.

These modern diesel electric buses use battery to get them to 2nd gear
speed, then start the diesel engine. When waiting at the bus stop the
engine is stopped, except often the engine will start up of its own
accord, whether the driver is in the cab or not.

On 08/09/2016 19:57, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
As I understand it, it is illegal to leave your engine running when you
vacate the driving seat. The idea being concerns at the vehicle taking
off on its own, driverless.

"You must not leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that
vehicle is stationary on a public road."

I've done it many times, and I'll do it in the future too - mostly for
diagnosis of problems. And that's allowed.

These modern diesel electric buses use battery to get them to 2nd gear
speed, then start the diesel engine. When waiting at the bus stop the
engine is stopped, except often the engine will start up of its own
accord, whether the driver is in the cab or not.

Provided the driver has taken appropriate precautions, ie the bus is
doing what it's supposed to do and it's been left in a state where it
won't drive off (eg the parking brake is on), that's fine - it won't be
counted as "unnecessarily".

Gawd how many delivery drivers turn off their engines when making a drop,
I've not found one yet.
Brian

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On 08/09/2016 19:57, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
As I understand it, it is illegal to leave your engine running when you
vacate the driving seat. The idea being concerns at the vehicle taking
off on its own, driverless.

"You must not leave a vehicle engine running unnecessarily while that
vehicle is stationary on a public road."

I've done it many times, and I'll do it in the future too - mostly for
diagnosis of problems. And that's allowed.

These modern diesel electric buses use battery to get them to 2nd gear
speed, then start the diesel engine. When waiting at the bus stop the
engine is stopped, except often the engine will start up of its own
accord, whether the driver is in the cab or not.

Provided the driver has taken appropriate precautions, ie the bus is doing
what it's supposed to do and it's been left in a state where it won't
drive off (eg the parking brake is on), that's fine - it won't be counted
as "unnecessarily".

On Friday, 9 September 2016 07:50:03 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Gawd how many delivery drivers turn off their engines when making a drop,
I've not found one yet.
Brian


Postman yesterday left his running in between driving from house to house in a village yesterday.

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Brian Gaff wrote:
Gawd how many delivery drivers turn off their engines when making a
drop, I've not found one yet.

There's a small Tesco close to here with a large and usually quiet
carpark. Much loved by white van man to park up in and eat his sandwiches.
And they always leave the engine running, summer or winter. Presumably
because they don't pay for the fuel.

Odd, really. If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

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Dave Plowman (News) explained :
Odd, really. If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

Diesels are hopeless in winter, if the idea is to keep the cab warm.
Hence why the fit 'night heaters'/ fuel burning heaters.

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) explained :
Odd, really. If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

Diesels are hopeless in winter, if the idea is to keep the cab warm.
Hence why the fit 'night heaters'/ fuel burning heaters.

Possibly in the Russian winter - after all that's why Hitler didn't conquer
the USSR. But in the UK, diesels are fine, I've been driving a diesel
engined car for over 30 years (not the same one) and almost the entire road
haulage industry relies on diesels, It doesn't stop in the winter - except
for the occasional snowdrift

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) explained :
Odd, really. If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

Diesels are hopeless in winter, if the idea is to keep the cab warm.
Hence why the fit 'night heaters'/ fuel burning heaters.


But they do it on the sort of day where you'd sit with the windows open.
So neither too hot or too cold.

It's one of those things you notice once then keep on seeing it. Can't
imagine they all have dodgy batteries.

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On 09/09/16 15:57, charles wrote:
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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) explained :
Odd, really. If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

Diesels are hopeless in winter, if the idea is to keep the cab warm.
Hence why the fit 'night heaters'/ fuel burning heaters.

Possibly in the Russian winter - after all that's why Hitler didn't conquer
the USSR. But in the UK, diesels are fine, I've been driving a diesel
engined car for over 30 years (not the same one) and almost the entire road
haulage industry relies on diesels, It doesn't stop in the winter - except
for the occasional snowdrift

Mine has a fuel burning heater though. Engine is so efficient it doesnt
get hot enough in winter.


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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) explained :
Odd, really. If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

Diesels are hopeless in winter, if the idea is to keep the cab warm.
Hence why the fit 'night heaters'/ fuel burning heaters.


But they do it on the sort of day where you'd sit with the windows open.
So neither too hot or too cold.

It's one of those things you notice once then keep on seeing it. Can't
imagine they all have dodgy batteries.

they might need the engine on to run the radio?

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charles wrote:

Dave Plowman wrote:

If I spent my working day sitting on top of a clattering
vibrating diesel, I'd welcome some peace and quiet with lunch.

they might need the engine on to run the radio?

And the on-board CCTV cameras, oyster card machine, free WiFi,
advertising screens, lighting, GPS that monitors for speeding or missing
stops and updates the scheduled arrival boards and bus-tracking phone
app ...