I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

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On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

On Sunday, 3 July 2016 22:58:19 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.


NT

James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there

Yes.

and why?

Usual reason, plenty do what others do.

On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?

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She wanted to keep it.

On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:12:14 +0100, wrote:

On Sunday, 3 July 2016 22:58:19 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.

Looks rather cheap and not long lasting.

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On 03/07/2016 23:17, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson wrote
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there

Yes.
and why?

Usual reason, plenty do what others do.

I had them on a roof on a foreign property that was subject to 40C in
summer and 15c in winter with heavy rains Jan/Feb.
The tiles (strips) were still going strong after 14 years with no
noticeable deterioration.

James Wilkinson wrote
Tim Watts wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?

Nope, trivially easy to overlap them so they don't.

James Wilkinson wrote
wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.

Looks rather cheap

Yeah, not as good looking as proper shingles.

and not long lasting.

Sure, but that is just as true with shed and garage roofs too.

On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:39:50 +0100, ss wrote:

On 03/07/2016 23:17, Rod Speed wrote:
James Wilkinson wrote
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there

Yes.
and why?

Usual reason, plenty do what others do.

I had them on a roof on a foreign property that was subject to 40C in
summer and 15c in winter with heavy rains Jan/Feb.
The tiles (strips) were still going strong after 14 years with no
noticeable deterioration.

Bitumen never seems to last on garden sheds.

--
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:58:55 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Tim Watts wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?

Nope, trivially easy to overlap them so they don't.

How do you stop it running under the vertical divisions?

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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 00:00:49 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.

Looks rather cheap

Yeah, not as good looking as proper shingles.

Is that what we call "slates"? Dark grey little stone sheets?

and not long lasting.

Sure, but that is just as true with shed and garage roofs too.

Indeed, but people tend to take more rouble to make their house last longer than their garden shed.

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James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Tim Watts wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?

Nope, trivially easy to overlap them so they don't.

How do you stop it running under the vertical divisions?

By overlapping them so there is the body of another shingle under that.

James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.

Looks rather cheap

Yeah, not as good looking as proper shingles.

Is that what we call "slates"? Dark grey little stone sheets?

Nope, proper shingles are wood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_shingle

and not long lasting.

Sure, but that is just as true with shed and garage roofs too.

Indeed, but people tend to take more rouble to
make their house last longer than their garden shed.

Or accept the fact that they don't last as long as other roofs.

That is obviously true of thatched roofs.

On 04/07/2016 00:16, James Wilkinson wrote:
I had them on a roof on a foreign property that was subject to 40C in
summer and 15c in winter with heavy rains Jan/Feb.
The tiles (strips) were still going strong after 14 years with no
noticeable deterioration.

Bitumen never seems to last on garden sheds.

This stuff was thicker than normal garden shed bitumen. From what I
gather they used a blowlamp to lay it.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 00:50:27 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Tim Watts wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?

Nope, trivially easy to overlap them so they don't.

How do you stop it running under the vertical divisions?

By overlapping them so there is the body of another shingle under that.

Ah. My imagination sux.

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I said we'd love to, but our garden hose only reaches the driveway.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 00:55:12 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.

Looks rather cheap

Yeah, not as good looking as proper shingles.

Is that what we call "slates"? Dark grey little stone sheets?

Nope, proper shingles are wood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_shingle

Don't they warp or rot?

and not long lasting.

Sure, but that is just as true with shed and garage roofs too.

Indeed, but people tend to take more rouble to
make their house last longer than their garden shed.

Or accept the fact that they don't last as long as other roofs.

Which is fine until you lose expensive things inside the house due to water.

That is obviously true of thatched roofs.

Those are all they had back then, and only do it now to make something look authentic.

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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 00:56:00 +0100, ss wrote:

On 04/07/2016 00:16, James Wilkinson wrote:
I had them on a roof on a foreign property that was subject to 40C in
summer and 15c in winter with heavy rains Jan/Feb.
The tiles (strips) were still going strong after 14 years with no
noticeable deterioration.

Bitumen never seems to last on garden sheds.

This stuff was thicker than normal garden shed bitumen. From what I
gather they used a blowlamp to lay it.

Come to think of it whoever built my garage made the bitumen quite strong. Never had a problem with that.

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It's the chuckle brothers again.
LMFAO

James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Rod Speed wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and
why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.

Looks rather cheap

Yeah, not as good looking as proper shingles.

Is that what we call "slates"? Dark grey little stone sheets?

Nope, proper shingles are wood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_shingle

Don't they warp

Not if you use the right wood.

or rot?

Not if you use the right wood.

and not long lasting.

Sure, but that is just as true with shed and garage roofs too.

Indeed, but people tend to take more rouble to
make their house last longer than their garden shed.

Or accept the fact that they don't last as long as other roofs.

Which is fine until you lose expensive things inside the house due to
water.

That doesn't happen when you do it properly.

They are replaced because they don't look good
anymore before you end up with water in the house.

That is obviously true of thatched roofs.

Those are all they had back then,

That's not true. There were shingles and slates then
too. And tiles right back to roman times too.

and only do it now to make something look authentic.

True.

On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100
Tim Watts wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and
why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

And they come in big sheets, and the roof is guaranteed for 25-30 years.
Usually longer than the company that lays them.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GAF-Royal...1180/100040028

for just one example.

--
Davey.

I recall that although some tiles look like tiles in Spain, when I touched
one it was quite pliable as if it was made of some form of rubber.
it was red. I never thought about it again till today. I suppose there has
to be many different materials out there for roofing that we don't know
about.
Brian

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 00:56:00 +0100, ss wrote:

On 04/07/2016 00:16, James Wilkinson wrote:
I had them on a roof on a foreign property that was subject to 40C in
summer and 15c in winter with heavy rains Jan/Feb.
The tiles (strips) were still going strong after 14 years with no
noticeable deterioration.

Bitumen never seems to last on garden sheds.

This stuff was thicker than normal garden shed bitumen. From what I
gather they used a blowlamp to lay it.

Come to think of it whoever built my garage made the bitumen quite strong.
Never had a problem with that.

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In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

They have a life similar to flat roofs here.

However, there is a different philosophy with housing in various parts
of the US. Traditional UK homes were built with a design life of 200
years (that's not 200 maintenance-free years), but it was well long
enough that people don't often need to consider a home getting to the
end of its life before they get to the end of theirs.

That's much less true in parts of the US. In the area I regularly
visited when working for various US companies (California), you quite
often see one of their typical single-story homes being bulldozsed
and rebuilt. They are much less substantial structures than a UK home,
so much faster to erect, but also have a much shorter expected life,
and they think much less of knocking down and rebuilding than we do.
Felt shingles are also much less likely to come loose in an earth
quake and kill passers by in that part of the US.
(Mind you, a UK brick built house there would have a very short life).

In some other parts of the US, things like tornadoes mean that houses
can be destroyed and need to be quickly rebuilt, so that too can be a
factor when you know you might suddenly have to quickly rebuild many
homes, and again, you don't want thousands of concrete roof tiles being
whipped up in a tornado and hurlded around.

--
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On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.

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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.

Don't they flap bout in the wind?

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.

Don't they flap bout in the wind?

Nope, that's why they are nailed.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:58:00 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.

Don't they flap bout in the wind?

Nope, that's why they are nailed.

You'd need 4 nails in each, And every nail makes a hole that water could seep through.

--
The 2 most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In ,
"James writes:

I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

They have a life similar to flat roofs here.

However, there is a different philosophy with housing in various parts
of the US. Traditional UK homes were built with a design life of 200
years (that's not 200 maintenance-free years), but it was well long
enough that people don't often need to consider a home getting to the
end of its life before they get to the end of theirs.

That's much less true in parts of the US. In the area I regularly
visited when working for various US companies (California), you quite
often see one of their typical single-story homes being bulldozsed
and rebuilt. They are much less substantial structures than a UK home,
so much faster to erect, but also have a much shorter expected life,
and they think much less of knocking down and rebuilding than we do.
Felt shingles are also much less likely to come loose in an earth
quake and kill passers by in that part of the US.
(Mind you, a UK brick built house there would have a very short life).

In some other parts of the US, things like tornadoes mean that houses
can be destroyed and need to be quickly rebuilt, so that too can be a
factor when you know you might suddenly have to quickly rebuild many
homes, and again, you don't want thousands of concrete roof tiles being
whipped up in a tornado and hurlded around.



Shingles also withstand large hailstones better than tiles. Price
however seems to be the main consideration.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:28:18 +0100, Huge wrote:

On 2016-07-04, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

They have a life similar to flat roofs here.

However, there is a different philosophy with housing in various parts
of the US. Traditional UK homes were built with a design life of 200
years (that's not 200 maintenance-free years), but it was well long
enough that people don't often need to consider a home getting to the
end of its life before they get to the end of theirs.

That's much less true in parts of the US.

My parents live in rural Pennsylvania, and the mass housing there is
essentially well insulated sheds. Wood frame covered with siding and
with the asphalt shingle roofing that started this thread. Erected
at enormous speed (large parts of it are prefabricated and assembled
with nail guns). It doesn't last very long by British standards.

Isn't that pretty crap for sound insulation?

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I've seen a commercial building have sections of about 15 red "tiles" put on at once. They looked plastic.


On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 09:18:15 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I recall that although some tiles look like tiles in Spain, when I touched
one it was quite pliable as if it was made of some form of rubber.
it was red. I never thought about it again till today. I suppose there has
to be many different materials out there for roofing that we don't know
about.
Brian



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It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you accidentally staple it to the wall.

On 04/07/16 11:45, John Rumm wrote:
On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.


Plus they bend, so that's less flashing and no fiddly mortared bits.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 13:17:17 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

On 04/07/16 11:45, John Rumm wrote:
On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.


Plus they bend, so that's less flashing and no fiddly mortared bits.

All builders like flashing :-)

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What's the difference between a naked white woman and a naked black woman?
One's on the cover of Playboy and the other's on the cover of National Geographic.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 01:45:17 +0100, Davey wrote:

On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100
Tim Watts wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and
why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

And they come in big sheets, and the roof is guaranteed for 25-30 years.
Usually longer than the company that lays them.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GAF-Royal...1180/100040028

for just one example.

I see. Still looks cheap though. Mind you so do tiles. Slates are the only decent looking roof.

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On 04/07/2016 11:51, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.

Don't they flap bout in the wind?


That's the whole point. In Tornado alley they are gone in jiffy, but
wont kill you. Quick and easy to replace.

More of a problem in North east USA where the racoons can easily rip
through them and rummage through your loft.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:58:00 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not used
on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in a
couple of hours.

Don't they flap bout in the wind?

Nope, that's why they are nailed.

You'd need 4 nails in each,

Nope, not the way the yanks do them with big mats of bitumen shingles.

And every nail makes a hole that water could seep through.

Nope, the nails are under the shingles above them
and the free edge at the bottom end of the shingle
is attached to the shingle under it by heat or glue.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 10:28:18 +0100, Huge
wrote:

On 2016-07-04, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house,
placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

They have a life similar to flat roofs here.

However, there is a different philosophy with housing in various parts
of the US. Traditional UK homes were built with a design life of 200
years (that's not 200 maintenance-free years), but it was well long
enough that people don't often need to consider a home getting to the
end of its life before they get to the end of theirs.

That's much less true in parts of the US.

My parents live in rural Pennsylvania, and the mass housing there is
essentially well insulated sheds. Wood frame covered with siding and
with the asphalt shingle roofing that started this thread. Erected
at enormous speed (large parts of it are prefabricated and assembled
with nail guns). It doesn't last very long by British standards.

Isn't that pretty crap for sound insulation?

Its not as good as double brick, but even my patio doors are surprisingly
effective with just a single sheet of quite thick glass sound wise.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 01:45:17 +0100, Davey wrote:

On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100
Tim Watts wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and
why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

And they come in big sheets, and the roof is guaranteed for 25-30 years.
Usually longer than the company that lays them.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GAF-Royal...1180/100040028

for just one example.

I see. Still looks cheap though. Mind you so do tiles. Slates are the
only decent looking roof.

Flat roofs look much better.

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It's the chuckle brothers again.


But they were not funny..........

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we
use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to
look like tiles.

Just admit that you have been watching The Simpsons.

--
Adam