On Friday, 8 July 2016 21:30:21 UTC+1, harry wrote:

US houses are total **** compared with any European country.

Wrong.

Only fit for demolition in twenty or thirty years.

Any unmaintained building will be.

Very poor energy performances are the norm there too.

BULL****.

Episode 233: Where Harry demonstates no working knowledge of the
idea of different countries having different climates and
different housing needs.

Holy **** Harry. This is ignorant, even by your standards.

On Fri, 08 Jul 2016 21:30:18 +0100, harry wrote:

On Sunday, 3 July 2016 23:12:16 UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 22:58:19 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen (like we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American house, placed to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?

Shingles are probably the most common roof type there.


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US houses are total **** compared with any European country.
Only fit for demolition in twenty or thirty years.
Very poor energy performances are the norm there too.

Doesn't matter, energy is cheaper in a country that isn't overcrowded.

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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 23:24:41 +0100, David Paste wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:18:27 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Stick that in the middle of a city and it would be ugly. Anything "different" looks good in a scene like that, as it impinges less on the natural beauty.

You asked for a good looking flat roof. You got a good looking flat roof!

Relatively perhaps.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 11:51:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm
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On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts

wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not
used
on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they
are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens
etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in
a
couple of hours.


The big advantage is they are very light so a minimal roof structure is
needed.
Quick to install.
Apart from that, they are ****.
Especially if the house catches fire. Burns like a torch.
Also proper tiles/ slates last for more then a hundred years, these
last
a couple of decades.

Isn't the roof structure quite sturdy to be strong enough to hold itself
and the ceiling up anyway?

It has to be a lot more sturdy for a tiled or slate roof.

The weight of the tiles can't be much more.

Wrong.

Prove it.

Completely trivial to do that, look at any of
the sites that cover the design of tiled roofs.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

LMFAO.

On Friday, 8 July 2016 21:57:47 UTC+1, David Paste wrote:
On Friday, 8 July 2016 21:30:21 UTC+1, harry wrote:

US houses are total **** compared with any European country.

Wrong.

Only fit for demolition in twenty or thirty years.

Any unmaintained building will be.

Very poor energy performances are the norm there too.

BULL****.

Episode 233: Where Harry demonstates no working knowledge of the
idea of different countries having different climates and
different housing needs.

Holy **** Harry. This is ignorant, even by your standards.

A few years back I took the opportunity to walk round a construction site in the US.
Construction standards were total crap.
Both design and workmanship.
It was all about appearance.

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On Friday, 8 July 2016 21:57:47 UTC+1, David Paste wrote:
On Friday, 8 July 2016 21:30:21 UTC+1, harry wrote:

US houses are total **** compared with any European country.

Wrong.

Only fit for demolition in twenty or thirty years.

Any unmaintained building will be.

Very poor energy performances are the norm there too.

BULL****.

Episode 233: Where Harry demonstates no working knowledge of the
idea of different countries having different climates and
different housing needs.

Holy **** Harry. This is ignorant, even by your standards.

A few years back I took the opportunity to walk round a construction site
in the US.
Construction standards were total crap.
Both design and workmanship.
It was all about appearance.

Even sillier than you usually manage. Just one
site proves sweet **** all about anything at all.

There are plenty of the best designs and
builds there, just like with anywhere else.

On Saturday, 9 July 2016 07:09:22 UTC+1, harry wrote:

A few years back I took the opportunity to walk round a construction site in the US.
Construction standards were total crap.
Both design and workmanship.
It was all about appearance.

Now go and walk around any given building site in the UK.

Then try to reconcile what you say about US standards with their
needs in winter in cold places, and their needs in summer in hot
places.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking? In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on. It's what you make a patio out of.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 11:51:49 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 11:45:23 +0100, John Rumm
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On 04/07/2016 10:28, Tim Watts wrote:
On 03/07/16 23:27, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 23:01:07 +0100, Tim Watts

wrote:

On 03/07/16 22:58, James Wilkinson wrote:
I accidentally spotted some A5 sized pieces of roof felt/bitumen
(like
we use on garages and sheds here in the UK) on an American
house,
placed
to look like tiles. Is that common over there and why?


I believe they are called asphalt shingles.

Wouldn't that leak?


No - they're laid like tiles - or wooden shingles. They are not
used
on
flat roofs.

The also have an advantage, they can be laid very fast since they
are
just nailed on to a fully boarded roof. No need for tile battens
etc.
With pneumatic roofing nailers, you can get a whole roof finished in
a
couple of hours.


The big advantage is they are very light so a minimal roof structure is
needed.
Quick to install.
Apart from that, they are ****.
Especially if the house catches fire. Burns like a torch.
Also proper tiles/ slates last for more then a hundred years, these
last
a couple of decades.

Isn't the roof structure quite sturdy to be strong enough to hold itself
and the ceiling up anyway?

It has to be a lot more sturdy for a tiled or slate roof.

The weight of the tiles can't be much more.

Wrong.

Prove it.

Completely trivial to do that, look at any of
the sites that cover the design of tiled roofs.

I'm too lazy to comply.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking?

Yep.

In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on.

Wrong, as always.

It's what you make a patio out of.

Not METAL decking you don't.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking?

Yep.

In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on.

Wrong, as always.

This is what you get if you type decking into google images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=de...w=1455&bih=991

It's what you make a patio out of.

Not METAL decking you don't.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking?

Yep.

In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on.

Wrong, as always.

This is what you get if you type decking into google images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=de...w=1455&bih=991

This is what you get if you type tiles into google images
https://www.google.com/search?q=tiles&tbm=isch

It's what you make a patio out of.

Not METAL decking you don't.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking?

Yep.

In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on.

Wrong, as always.

This is what you get if you type decking into google images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=de...w=1455&bih=991

This is what you get if you type tiles into google images
https://www.google.com/search?q=tiles&tbm=isch

Scroll down a bit.

It's what you make a patio out of.

Not METAL decking you don't.




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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking?

Yep.

In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on.

Wrong, as always.

This is what you get if you type decking into google images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=de...w=1455&bih=991

This is what you get if you type tiles into google images
https://www.google.com/search?q=tiles&tbm=isch

Scroll down a bit.

Just as true of yours.

It's what you make a patio out of.

Not METAL decking you don't.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 23:30:08 UTC+1, S Viemeister wrote:
On 7/4/2016 6:08 PM, David Paste wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:29:29 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:

Show me a good looking flat roof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallingwater

It's known to have severe leakage problems.

All flat roofs are a disaster (leaks) after a few years.

Even sillier and

Ever heard of gravity? Best to work with it.

Don't get leaks with metal decking.

That's one piece.

Nope, metal roof decking comes in long strips about 18" wide.

Roof decking?

Yep.

In the UK (and the USA I believe), decking is what you stand on.

Wrong, as always.

This is what you get if you type decking into google images:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=de...w=1455&bih=991

This is what you get if you type tiles into google images
https://www.google.com/search?q=tiles&tbm=isch

Scroll down a bit.

Just as true of yours.

Do you know what this phrase means? "He really ****ed me off, so I decked him".


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