On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:20:00 +0100, T i m wrote:

The latest neutral opinion poll apparently shows a 19 point lead
for Brexit. Looking at the Daily Mirror readers poll this morning, it
shows 75% for staying, but the readers letters are 100% for leaving!
Rigged poll by Remain anyone?

This looks to be taken from a fair few sources:

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Hush with your facts and reality.

Hehe.

It even contains all the source polls, and the P-o-P methodology used.

Yup. It looked quite credible to me (FWIW etc).

How positively untrustworthy.

You can be sure some will find a way to counter it and if all else fails
it's a conspiracy theory. ;-)

No, it's clearly credible (currently), since it's just changed to show
Leave ahead for the first time since the polling started... 44-46-10.

On Sunday, 12 June 2016 11:34:26 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
And these REMAIN pillocks are still saying...

€�Don€˜t leave! You will risk losing our industries!€¢

We still have many, just not some of those you have chosen to highlight..
We are major manufacturers of machinery, pharmaceuticals, electronic
equipment, chemicals and plastics, among others.

Harry doesn't understand the differenve between efficient UK industries
etc which already do well within the EU, and those long since dead.

So instead of wallowing in past glory, he needs to ask himself what effect
leaving might have on those currently successful industries. And equally,
on the financial sector, which is far more important to the UK than
manufacturing.


One reason they have died is the burden of regulation from the EUSSR.
And also socialist restrictive practices.

"Capitol" wrote in message
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 12/06/16 11:17, dennis@home wrote:
On 12/06/2016 09:49, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:44:20 +0100, Nightjar wrote:

Britain lost its textile industry while in the EU

Which has nothing to do with the EU and everything to do with cheap
labour costs in third world countries.

And this really does sum up the logic of much of the brexit campaign.
"We
were big and important before we joined the EU, so it must be the EU's
fault".

The entire brexit campaign is based on speculation and lies, it has been
from the start.

Ah, I do love a proof by assertion first thin in te morning

So says the proven liar ;-)



You cannot believe anything they say as they have nothing to base their
assumptions on.

Most of them want out for emotional reasons and will believe anything
negative anyone says about the EU because that supports their emotions.
They will not believe anything positive about remaining because that
goes against their emotions so any argument is a waste of effort. The
best you can do is influence the undecided who may actually think about
it unlike harry and friends.



He's a remainer, what else do you expect. None of them can come up
with positive reasons for staying.

More lies on that last. The obvious reasons for staying are that it is much
easier to stay than to leave, no need for any negotiation on anything if
Britain stays. The agriculture sector will be severely affected if Britain
leaves,
essentially because most of what it exports goes to the EU and wont be
able to get into the EU so easily after Britain leaves, and there aren't
that
many in the rest of the world that are interested in British ag exports.

The British ag industry will also be severely affected by the loss of all
that
money that the EU hands them, something like half their gross income.
While in theory the British govt could just take the money it currently
gives the EU and give it to the ag sector, given the real problem the govt
has with govt debt., it is very unlikely to be politically possible to do
that
given that the bulk of the ag sector that gets that money aren't exactly
the unemployable in the old industrial slums.

Whether that stuff is a good reason to remain is a quite separate question
tho..

"Capitol" wrote in message
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Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:


Britain lost its rail rolling stock industry while in the EU


Nothing whatever to do with the EU.

Actually that one is.

We are the only major European country that plays by the rules when
tendering rail contracts which have almost all been won by other
European companies and our national industry has all but collapsed
because of it

Other EU country game the rules to make sure that their home company
wins bids for local work and hence keep the business afloat

So, basically, it's nothing to do with the EU, and everything to do with
how the UK government interprets "the rules"?


Britain lost most of its car industry while in the EU


Nothing whatever to do with the EU, everything to do with Britain being
completely ****ing hopeless at car manufacturing.
Plenty of others in the EU do fine in that area.


Actually so do we

just not with historic UK badges on the front,.

The motor industry, at least as far as British ownership goes, was
already pretty much dead and buried YEARS before the UK even joined the
EC.

Vauxhall was 100% owned by GM from 1925.

Ford of Britain was never anything but majority owned by Ford US and by
1961 was 100% US owned. Ford gradually "rationalised" their European
operations through the 1960s, and Ford Europe merged Ford of Britain into
Ford Germany in 1967, based in Cologne.

Rootes Group was fully owned by Chrysler from 1967, before being sold to
PSA Peugeot Citroen in 1978.

BL is a long saga of wolves being beaten from doors - from Morris/Austin/
Jaguar/Pressed Steel being pushed by the government to merging, as
British Motor Holdings, in 1966 - before merger with Leyland Vehicles to
form BLMC in 1968, turning into BL with nationalisation in 1975, then
sale to BAe in 1984. The Honda tie-up was touted as being the saviour as
far back as the late '70s, with the Honda Ballade being rebadged as the
Triumph Acclaim in 1981, Jaguar was sold to Ford in 1984, the commercial
vehicles were sold to DAF in 1987, and BAe sold the rest to BMW in 1994.

So, when the UK joined the EC in 1975, three of the "big four" were US
owned, while the fourth was being nationalised in yet another attempt to
stop it going tits. UK car production was below 1m cars by 1980. In 2015,
it was nearly 1.6m. In the next year or two, it's forecast to be the
highest ever figure.


Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's about it.

"Capitol" wrote in message
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Brian wrote:

I'm not so sure about Steel, though I do believe that we need to look at
where the holes in the market are on this one and do stuff better or
cheaper where we can. Besides, many countries do tend to dump things to
weaken the home producers, seems to be a common thing. The Americans
seem to have used trade tariffs to redress the balance. The other items
you mention who compete from a less well paid country with poorer
helth and safety do wrankle a lot with people but as you say has sod
all to do with the EU.

Odd, isn't it?

Saudi has dumped large quantities of oil on the world market depressing
the price dramatically. Decimating our North Sea oil industry. But
everyone is happy because fuel prices are lower at the pumps.

The same happens to steel, and people are up in arms.


North sea oil is still viable even at these lower prices. You can shut
down an oil well on a temporary basis, or reduce output. You can't do that
with a blast furnace.

Of course you can.

"Mark Allread" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:35:27 +0100, Martin Barclay wrote:

WHY WE SHOULD LEAVE THE EU.
Master Investor, economist and entrepreneur, Jim Mellon, argues Britain
is better off leaving the "sinking ship" that is the European Union. If
we stay in the EU, within 3-5 years Britain will be forced to deal with
the devastating knock-on effects of a collapsing Euro and
continental-wide depression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuOIjK86c4o

So why not stay until it does get that bad?

Because staying in will inevitably involve spending lots of money
bailing out the first of the economies that collapse. That has already
happened with Greece and it certain to happen with Italy next unless
by some miracle the eurozone doesnt actually implode spectacularly.

In fact it is possible to argue that Britain should leave now and once
the eurozone has collapsed, rejoin the EU once the collapse of the
eurozone has seen the EU get its act into gear on completely revamping
the entire political system and making it much more democratic and
driven by the european parliament deciding policy and not unelected
fail politicians/bureaucrats in Brussels etc.

At present I consider it a manageable situation

That is less clear with the survival of the euro.

and am happy to Remain.

And that is how the majority feel too, but the margin isnt that great.

If it gets worse my views may/would change and we can then exit. Nothing
lost.

In fact the money required to bail out the worst of the failed eurozone
states
has already been lost and much more would be lost if it involves Italy etc.

Of course, if we came out now and the situation worsened for *us* as it
is just as likely to do then we would only be re-admitted on far worse
terms than we have now.

Yes, particularly as current joiner have to agree to being in the eurozone
and to being Schengen countries and various other things that Britain has
been able to opt out of because it was one of the early joiners.

Everything lost.

No, just some things lost.

In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 12/06/16 16:25, Mark Allread wrote:
What a load of rubbish - of course we could have another referendum.

Bless!

This seems a very simple situation. We decide to stay in but then change
our minds.

What mechanism other than a war of independence is going to stop us
going?

--
Tim Lamb

On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's about it.



Do try and get the facts right.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 12/06/16 14:41, Mark Allread wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:35:27 +0100, Martin Barclay wrote:

WHY WE SHOULD LEAVE THE EU.
Master Investor, economist and entrepreneur, Jim Mellon, argues Britain
is better off leaving the "sinking ship" that is the European Union. If
we stay in the EU, within 3-5 years Britain will be forced to deal with
the devastating knock-on effects of a collapsing Euro and
continental-wide depression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuOIjK86c4o

So why not stay until it does get that bad?

Because the ability to leave will no longer exist.

BULL****.

If te EU prives amssively woinderful I am sure that we can reappliy in ten
yeras time

But would lose the ability to have a separate currency
and to not be part of the Schengen region. All current
and future joiners dont have any choice on that now.

If it proves to be an anti-democratic crock of **** like the USSR, we
would have to wait for it to collapse in a miserable state just as E
Europe did.

No, the situation with leaving would be completely
different, because the EU has no way of stopping
any country that chooses to leave from leaving,
particularly because of NATO.

At present I consider it a manageable situation and am happy to Remain.
If it gets worse my views may/would change and we can then exit. Nothing
lost.

Unfortunately not the case. If this referendum fails to gain exit, there
wont be another one. The EU will make sure of that.

The EU has no way to make sure of that.

Of course, if we came out now and the situation worsened for *us* as it
is just as likely to do then we would only be re-admitted on far worse
terms than we have now. Everything lost.


Well then why bother to be re-admitted at all?

To be part of the free trade area without the closer political integration
or the common currency while might well have been binned because of
the collapse and a complete rethink of what the EU is about. It clearly
worked very well as a free trade area and didnt work anything like as
well as a common currency area and very badly with political integration.

"T i m" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:09:43 +0100, Capitol wrote:

snip

The latest neutral opinion poll apparently shows a 19 point lead
for Brexit. Looking at the Daily Mirror readers poll this morning, it
shows 75% for staying, but the readers letters are 100% for leaving!
Rigged poll by Remain anyone?

This looks to be taken from a fair few sources:

https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

The undecideds are still very high and the
result on polling day could still go either way.

And none of the polls actually ask just those who say they will
bother to vote and with quite a few they decide if they will
bother to vote based on whether it looks like the result might
be what they don't want too.

The bookies odds are still overwhelmingly saying that the result
will be to stay and they don't get it wrong with a binary result.

On 12/06/2016 20:20, Rod Speed wrote:


"Mark Allread" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:35:27 +0100, Martin Barclay wrote:

WHY WE SHOULD LEAVE THE EU.
Master Investor, economist and entrepreneur, Jim Mellon, argues Britain
is better off leaving the "sinking ship" that is the European Union. If
we stay in the EU, within 3-5 years Britain will be forced to deal with
the devastating knock-on effects of a collapsing Euro and
continental-wide depression. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuOIjK86c4o

So why not stay until it does get that bad?

Because staying in will inevitably involve spending lots of money
bailing out the first of the economies that collapse.

The UK has an agreement that we do not have to pay any bailout money and
that we get compensated if we lose any money.

The idea that the UK will have to bail out the Eu is just another harryism.

That is true of what remains of the car industry.
The rest of the world gave up on British cars
LONG ago now. Only the EU is a viable market
for what **** is still produced in Britain.

Yeah, the **** that is Rolls Royce, Bentley, Maclaren, Atom, Range Rover, Jaguar and Morgan is seldom seen sold in America, the Middle East or Far East.

"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's about
it.



Do try and get the facts right.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

It IS Wodney after all.

"harry" wrote in message
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On Sunday, 12 June 2016 11:34:26 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
And these REMAIN pillocks are still saying...

€�Don€˜t leave! You will risk losing our industries!€¢

We still have many, just not some of those you have chosen to
highlight.
We are major manufacturers of machinery, pharmaceuticals, electronic
equipment, chemicals and plastics, among others.

Harry doesn't understand the differenve between efficient UK industries
etc which already do well within the EU, and those long since dead.

So instead of wallowing in past glory, he needs to ask himself what
effect
leaving might have on those currently successful industries. And equally,
on the financial sector, which is far more important to the UK than
manufacturing.

One reason they have died is the burden of regulation from the EUSSR.

BULL****. The reason they died is because they were hopeless
compared with their competitors or because they just arent viable
in any modern first world country once the very low labour cost
countrys got their act into gear.

And also socialist restrictive practices.

Even sillier than you usually manage. The Norwegian oil and
gas and power generation industrys have done MUCH better
than the British ones BECAUSE they had enough of a clue to
have the govt do them and that has delivered MASSIVE
wealth to that country because they it that way.

Same with the French nuclear industry.

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 12/06/16 16:25, Mark Allread wrote:
What a load of rubbish - of course we could have another referendum.

Bless!

This seems a very simple situation. We decide to stay in but then change
our minds.

What mechanism other than a war of independence is going to stop us going?

He stupidly believes that the EU will be sending in
the tanks like Russia did when Hungary tried to leave.

Pity that NATO wouldn't wear that.

"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's about
it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

We'll see...

dennis@home wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Mark Allread wrote
Martin Barclay wrote

WHY WE SHOULD LEAVE THE EU.
Master Investor, economist and entrepreneur, Jim Mellon, argues Britain
is better off leaving the "sinking ship" that is the European Union. If
we stay in the EU, within 3-5 years Britain will be forced to deal with
the devastating knock-on effects of a collapsing Euro and
continental-wide depression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuOIjK86c4o

So why not stay until it does get that bad?

Because staying in will inevitably involve spending lots of money bailing
out the first of the economies that collapse.

The UK has an agreement that we do not have to pay any bailout money

It already has done.

and that we get compensated if we lose any money.

And I bet that if the **** really does hit the fan with the eurozone
imploding spectacularly that the EU will be so financially crippled
by that happening that doing that will be completely impossible
and that the eurozone imploding completely will be a MUCH more
important thing to the EU than any purported agreement to
compensate Britain would be.

The idea that the UK will have to bail out the Eu is just another
harryism.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

I didnt say anything about Britain bailing out the EU.

Clearly a number of countrys did bail out Greece in a desperate
attempt to keep them in the eurozone, and that would just be a
waltz in the park compared with what would be needed if Italy
and Spain ended up in equally deep ****.

Clearly Britain would be much better out of the
EU if the **** does hit the fan so spectacularly.

wrote in message
...

That is true of what remains of the car industry.
The rest of the world gave up on British cars
LONG ago now. Only the EU is a viable market
for what **** is still produced in Britain.

Yeah, the **** that is Rolls Royce, Bentley, Maclaren, Atom, Range Rover,
Jaguar
and Morgan is seldom seen sold in America, the Middle East or Far East.

Yep, anyone with even half a clue there buys German cars instead.

And Rolls Royce is German in all but name now anyway.

On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story


Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Proven wrong. Oh dear.

On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story


Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

We'll see...


Slomo what does that mean. ? Slow Moron.

"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story


Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Proven wrong.


Oh dear.

Oh cheap in your case, child.

"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story


Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

We'll see...

reams of your **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs

Whoops, nothing left. Wota surprise.

On 13/06/2016 10:10, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story



Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Proven wrong.


Oh dear.

Oh cheap in your case, child.


How so slomo said we don't export cars.

I posted links to disputing that.

On 13/06/2016 10:11, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story



Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

We'll see...

reams of your **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs

Whoops, nothing left. Wota surprise.


So you live in Australia but post 24/7 to a UK newsgroup.

What a life you don't have.

"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 13/06/2016 10:10, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story



Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Proven wrong.


Oh dear.

Oh cheap in your case, child.

How so slomo said we don't export cars.

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying thru your ****ing teeth,
as always.

"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 13/06/2016 10:11, Rod Speed wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 23:43, Slomo wrote:


"Norman Rowling" wrote in message
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On 12/06/2016 20:02, Slomo wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 10:41:03 +0100, tim... wrote:



Yes, due to the UK being leaders in car design

Like hell they are.

and exporting worldwide.

**** all cars made in Britain are exported world wide.

Very little goes to the EU.

Very little goes anywhere. A few Brits still buy them, but that's
about it.



Do try and get the facts right.

I've got them right fine, thanks.


From the left's bible

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-success-story



Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

From an neutral source

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2445b02-b...0e3d20eaf.html

Pathetic compared with what Germany has managed.

Its ******s like you that are full of ****.

We'll see...

reams of your **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs

Whoops, nothing left. Wota surprise.