Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.

Have we nothing like that in Britain?

I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
and the poo dries out and crumbles.

Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
cat mess.

I'm desperate for a better solution!

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

MM

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.



Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
to grow flowers in the front garden. As a result I'm one of the few who
hasn't completely concreted the front for car parking. I do have and
stand for the car but also flower boarders. I get around 5 lots of cat
**** a day! ****ing antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
look after their pets.


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On 17/04/16 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.

Have we nothing like that in Britain?

I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
effective. The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer
and the poo dries out and crumbles.

Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
cat mess.

I'm desperate for a better solution!

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

MM


There's load of adverts for dog poop freeze. I don't know if it works
though but it must be worth a try.

On 2016-04-17 09:43:19 +0000, MM said:

Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed.

Luxury. We currently have a family of foxes with five cubs under our
shed and they do like to play on the lawn.

In message , MM
writes
Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
cat mess.

I'm desperate for a better solution!

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

Diversionary tactics? Provide a small area of freshly dug and raked
soil. For full authenticity, plant some valuable seeds.

Are you certain it is not Fox poo? Pointy ends. Cats prefer to bury
their gifts.

--
Tim Lamb

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.


MM

Get a jack russell terrier.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:55 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.



Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
to grow flowers in the front garden.

It's worse if you are trying to grow veg. ;-(

As a result I'm one of the few who
hasn't completely concreted the front for car parking. I do have and
stand for the car but also flower boarders. I get around 5 lots of cat
**** a day!

Lovely.

snip
ucking antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
look after their pets.

Quite.

My solution ... going along with the recent law regarding having all
dogs chipped, have all (supposed) 'pet cats' chipped and their DNA
registered (along with dogs of course).

You find some cat cr*p in your garden, you send a small sample off to
some service who then send the bill for the test and either the
opportunity to cleanup after their 'possession in the future, pay for
professional cleanup services or the fine(s).

It's totally ridiculous that a dog owner is fined for letting their
pet foul in a public place but not a cat owner and worse that they can
(officially) get away with their animals fouling other people
*private* gardens and areas. [1]

I feel a 'be responsible for *your* pet' social change coming on
(stronger), as it has done with smoking in public places and about
time.

The innocent parties have rights too! ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[1] And in these technical days there is no reason why a cat can't
wear electronic collar and you equip your boundary with a wire and
when your cat leaves your boundary it triggers an alarm in one of the
local 'Cat patrol' units (paid for out of the cat licence) and on the
cats collar itself, the cat gets collected and the owner can pay the
fine to get it back. ;-)

On 17/04/2016 11:08, Tim Lamb wrote:

Cats prefer to bury
their gifts.


No they don't. If they **** on a lawn they just leave it. If they ****
on earth they may move a bit of soil but the **** remains on the surface.

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On 17/04/2016 11:13, Andrew wrote:

Get a jack russell terrier.


Shouldn't the owner just get the cat put down if they cannot be bothered
to be responsible for their pet?

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:08:00 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

In message , MM
writes
Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
cat mess.

I'm desperate for a better solution!

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

Diversionary tactics? Provide a small area of freshly dug and raked
soil. For full authenticity, plant some valuable seeds.

Are you certain it is not Fox poo? Pointy ends. Cats prefer to bury
their gifts.

Cats probably start out with the best of intentions, but they are lazy
and just do one or two token scratches in the earth. No way do they
bury it.

I've checked on the internet and fox poo looks different. Plus, I've
seen cats on the lawn preparing their typical squatting position. I'm
frequently too late to shoo 'em away, though.

MM

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:02:35 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 11:08, Tim Lamb wrote:

Cats prefer to bury
their gifts.


No they don't. If they **** on a lawn they just leave it. If they ****
on earth they may move a bit of soil but the **** remains on the surface.

That exactly describes what I find here.

MM

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:13:37 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.


MM

Get a jack russell terrier.

Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
toilets.

MM

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 12:03:53 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 11:13, Andrew wrote:

Get a jack russell terrier.


Shouldn't the owner just get the cat put down if they cannot be bothered
to be responsible for their pet?

Actually, I think this being rural Lincs most of the cats are strays.

MM

"MM" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:13:37 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.


MM

Get a jack russell terrier.

Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
toilets.


Get a snake then.

--
Adam

On 17/04/16 11:08, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , MM
writes
Later today I will have to steel myself to go "out there" for the
first time with the mower this year, but first I'll have to attack the
cat mess.

I'm desperate for a better solution!

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn.
I've tried everything in that department already, short of having
automatic scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

Diversionary tactics? Provide a small area of freshly dug and raked
soil. For full authenticity, plant some valuable seeds.

Are you certain it is not Fox poo? Pointy ends. Cats prefer to bury
their gifts.


I think that might be worth a try. A tray with loose soil in it could
provide an attractive alternative. Combine it with the freeze spray and
you could end up with easily disposed of deposits !! Not tried it though.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:15:39 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:55 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.



Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
to grow flowers in the front garden.

It's worse if you are trying to grow veg. ;-(


Yep, especially if it's stuff you weren't planning to cook, radish etc.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:43:19 +0100, MM wrote:

I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't effective.
The summer months are a little better, because it's warmer and the poo
dries out and crumbles.

How about a pressure washer? That'll certainly shift it. Just make sure
you stand in such a position so you don't end up getting sprayed with the
**** you're trying to remove.

(By the way, no point suggesting stopping cats messing on my lawn. I've
tried everything in that department already, short of having automatic
scatterguns like on the former East German border fence.)

What about those fake cats you can buy cheap? They're just two-
dimensional black cat-shaped cut-outs with green glass for eyes which you
position where the real cats can see them before entering your garden. I
gather they're quite effective.

"MM" wrote in message
...
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.


Why not just mow the ****ing lawn - cat **** and all (if it really is cat
****) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of ****ing about
with the hoe?


--
Adam

On 17/04/2016 13:03, ARW wrote:
"MM" wrote in message
...
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Why not just mow the ****ing lawn - cat **** and all (if it really is
cat ****) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of ****ing
about with the hoe?

That was my thought. Any **** and I mow over it. It seems to magically
disappear!

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:49:47 -0000 (UTC), R D S
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:15:39 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:51:55 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.



Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
to grow flowers in the front garden.

It's worse if you are trying to grow veg. ;-(


Yep, especially if it's stuff you weren't planning to cook, radish etc.

Yup. ;-(

It was partly why I stopped growing my own.

It really is a ridiculous state of affairs.

I wonder what would happen if someone had a pet hawk and it took fancy
fish out of a neighbours pond or killed someone's pet Guinea pig or
rabbit when out in it's run?

I wonder if the owner of the hawk could simply wash their hands of
their responsibility like most cat owners seem to? I bet 'that'
particular 'roaming animal' carries some sort of responsibility of
ownership?

I think some brightly coloured die in a Supersoaker could help reveal
the owner (or some liquid chemical that really stinks as much as cat
sh1t). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

"MM" wrote in message
.. .
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.


Why not just mow the f
snip
lawn - cat **** and all (if it really is cat
****) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of ****ing about
with the hoe?

Have you ever tried doing that OOI? Daughter was working for the local
council doing just that every day and that's why they often wear
disposable overalls, especially in the walled gardens at the back of
flats etc (that seem to suffer more with cat cr*p than 'open' communal
areas).

At least the dog owners could be asked to clear it up first or they
didn't mow it. It (and cat cr*p) doesn't always just get chopped up
and spread about, it can end up wrapped round the wheel on the mower
and that then goes back in the van ... (sometimes lifted in by two
people) ...

Even the face visor didn't prevent her wearing diced slug on her face
now and again (mainly when strimming) so basically anything could end
up anywhere.

Cheers, T i m

"T i m" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

"MM" wrote in message
. ..
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.


Why not just mow the f
snip
lawn - cat **** and all (if it really is cat
****) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of ****ing about
with the hoe?

Have you ever tried doing that OOI? Daughter was working for the local
council doing just that every day and that's why they often wear
disposable overalls, especially in the walled gardens at the back of
flats etc (that seem to suffer more with cat cr*p than 'open' communal
areas).

At least the dog owners could be asked to clear it up first or they
didn't mow it. It (and cat cr*p) doesn't always just get chopped up
and spread about, it can end up wrapped round the wheel on the mower
and that then goes back in the van ... (sometimes lifted in by two
people) ...

Even the face visor didn't prevent her wearing diced slug on her face
now and again (mainly when strimming) so basically anything could end
up anywhere.


Never had a problem with it. Straight over it with the mower and it is
gone - dog ****, cat **** or fox ****. If a bit sticks to the mower blades
then so what?

The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
local pub.

--
Adam

On 17/04/2016 10:51, alan_m wrote:
On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.



Think yourself lucky. I'm one of the few people in my street that tries
to grow flowers in the front garden. As a result I'm one of the few who
hasn't completely concreted the front for car parking. I do have and
stand for the car but also flower boarders. I get around 5 lots of cat
**** a day! ****ing antisocial cat owners that cannot be bothered to
look after their pets.

How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?




--
Cheers,

John.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:54:18 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

"T i m" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 13:03:58 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

"MM" wrote in message
...
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.


Why not just mow the f
snip
lawn - cat **** and all (if it really is cat
****) and dump the lot in the compost/green bin instead of ****ing about
with the hoe?

Have you ever tried doing that OOI? Daughter was working for the local
council doing just that every day and that's why they often wear
disposable overalls, especially in the walled gardens at the back of
flats etc (that seem to suffer more with cat cr*p than 'open' communal
areas).

At least the dog owners could be asked to clear it up first or they
didn't mow it. It (and cat cr*p) doesn't always just get chopped up
and spread about, it can end up wrapped round the wheel on the mower
and that then goes back in the van ... (sometimes lifted in by two
people) ...

Even the face visor didn't prevent her wearing diced slug on her face
now and again (mainly when strimming) so basically anything could end
up anywhere.


Never had a problem with it.

No, maybe you haven't, but I guess some people must (who may be doing
more mowing in a day than you do in a year) an I'm guessing they
wouldn't issue protective gear if they didn't need to?

Straight over it with the mower and it is
gone - dog ****, cat **** or fox ****.

Ok.

If a bit sticks to the mower blades
then so what?

No, if you think I was ever concerned with such sticking to the blades
than what might remain stuck to the wheels then you may have been
confused somewhere. ;-(

The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
local pub.

Again, it depends on how you are using both. I'm not sure most touch
the handle with their mouth whilst just 'doing their job'. ;-)

No, the bottom line and I don't think an sane person would argue
otherwise ... 'most people' would consider and prefer their grass,
flower or veg bed not to be covered in any animal cr*p (other than
horse probably) and especially so for those who are working close to
such things on a daily basis (especially those who don't own the
offending animals in the first place!). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:


How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?

It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
of the cat ****.



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On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:


How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?

It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
of the cat ****.

How do you propose they do that?

Do all the cats contributing to your garden even have "owners" (a loose
concept with cats anyway!)


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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 14:29:37 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:


How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?

It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
of the cat ****.

How do you propose they do that?

As he says John, not 'our' problem. One way (for example) would be not
to take on something you aren't fully responsible for in the first
place? Or keep the things 'under control, by accompanying them when
they go outdoors, keeping them indoors or ensuring they can't leave
their own property (netting over the garden / whatever, like I said,
not my responsibility).

Do all the cats contributing to your garden even have "owners" (a loose
concept with cats anyway!)

Good point and 'possibly not'. So, like with any potentially 'stray'
animal causing people problems, can't they be rounded up and 'dealt
with', like they do with stray dogs, rats or any other vermin?

Cheers, T i m

"MM" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:13:37 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 10:43, MM wrote:
Every time I mow the lawn there's cat poo to be removed. I hate it.
It's never solid, always messy, slimy, stinky, totally revolting. The
only way I've found to remove it is by scraping with a dutch hoe on to
a shovel.

Has no one got any other ideas? I read once a long time ago that the
Parisian clean-up squad rode around the city on motorbikes with a
nitrogen wand that froze dog poo solid. It was then much easier to
deal with.


MM

Get a jack russell terrier.

Nope. I don't like dogs. Ever watched a relative or friend's dog
pulling its arse across the carpet on which the family toddler is
playing. Messy, filthy, smelly, drooling animals that drink out of
toilets.

Don't be so harsh on those toddlers.

On 17/04/16 14:15, T i m wrote:

No, the bottom line and I don't think an sane person would argue
otherwise ... 'most people' would consider and prefer their grass,
flower or veg bed not to be covered in any animal cr*p (other than
horse probably) and especially so for those who are working close to
such things on a daily basis (especially those who don't own the
offending animals in the first place!). ;-)

Cheers, T i m


Fundamentally what you're saying is ban cat ownership because they are
roaming animals and are not suitable to be locked up all day and
everyday and once out and chipping would be pointless, the owner has no
control over them. That's a bit sad because they give a lot of people a
lot of pleasure. I have badgers and foxes and cats crossing my garden
all the time and can't say it's ever been an issue, though admittedly I
prefer shrubs to flowers and vegetables.

On 17/04/2016 14:29, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:


How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?

It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
of the cat ****.

How do you propose they do that?


The same way as if they had a lion/alligator/hippo as a pet!



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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
...

What about those fake cats you can buy cheap? They're just two-
dimensional black cat-shaped cut-outs with green glass for eyes which you
position where the real cats can see them before entering your garden. I
gather they're quite effective.


Real cats will use it as a scratching post and laugh at you.

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En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
local pub.

This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
you look even dodgier.

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En el artículo , alan_m
escribió:

The same way as if they had a lion/alligator/hippo as a pet!

Set 'em on whinging neighbour for dinner. Problem solved.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:03:25 +0100, Andy Cap
wrote:

On 17/04/16 14:15, T i m wrote:

No, the bottom line and I don't think an sane person would argue
otherwise ... 'most people' would consider and prefer their grass,
flower or veg bed not to be covered in any animal cr*p (other than
horse probably) and especially so for those who are working close to
such things on a daily basis (especially those who don't own the
offending animals in the first place!). ;-)


Fundamentally what you're saying is ban cat ownership because they are
roaming animals and are not suitable to be locked up all day and
everyday

(I'm not sure that's 100% true but I'll go with it)

and once out and chipping would be pointless, the owner has no
control over them.

I'm not saying that but many people would.

That's a bit sad because they give a lot of people a
lot of pleasure.

Sure, but are you then saying that the pleasure of someone doing
something (owning a cat) should have the right to outweigh the rights
(and freedom from consequence) of someone who doesn't?

Does someone's right to own a cat and have it cr*p in MY garden
outweigh my right to not own a cat and not only not suffer that but
not inflict it on anyone else?

It's just the same of me riding a motorcycle and doing to
'considerately and me owning a motorcycle with the exhaust
questionably loud and revving it late at night or early in the
morning. Very few people could (or would) complain about the former
whereas I would fully expect people to care and complain about the
latter.

I have badgers and foxes and cats crossing my garden
all the time and can't say it's ever been an issue, though admittedly I
prefer shrubs to flowers and vegetables.

And of course that's 'fine' for you because (as you have just said) it
doesn't impact you. But what if it did, what if you stood in some cat
(/fox/badger) mess on your way in and had walked it round the house
before you realised. What if your grand kids ill because when helping
with the flowers they touched some infected faeces? Al I'm saying is
no one (including me) generally 'bothers' about anything until it
affects them or their friends and family, and there seem to be enough
people here (even) that are affected by even cats cr*pping on their
property to suggest that it's no a 'non-issue' for many.

The problem with cats is that more people have them than keep foxes or
badgers g and may non-cat owners suffer because of their roaming and
fouling (even to the point where their owners state they DON't foul in
their own gardens!) and the lack of equality / balance between the
responsibilities of dog versus cat ownership.

Like I said, I might get a 'Cat / sh1te hawk' (called that because of
it's appetite for cats and the amount of (toxic) cat-based waste it
produces) and 'keep' it here (where 'here' is wherever the feck it
want's to go killing it's prey (that's 'nature' after all) and dumping
it out all over the place (but not here)). ;-)

I wonder how soon the cat owners would want me to place more control
over my 'pet'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:02:19 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 17/04/2016 14:29, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/04/2016 14:18, alan_m wrote:
On 17/04/2016 14:08, John Rumm wrote:


How would you suggest the cat owners "look after their pets" and prevent
them crapping in your garden? Large cork perhaps?

It's up to the antisocial owner to sort that problem not the recipient
of the cat ****.

How do you propose they do that?


The same way as if they had a lion/alligator/hippo as a pet!

Exactly. ;-)

Your pet, you keep in 'under control' or at least, out of my property!
;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. Better idea. Cat is chipped and the owner wears a high voltage
necklace. As soon as the cat strays into someone's garden that doesn't
welcome them, the owner' gets an electric shock! ;-)

Ok it won't stop their cat cr*pping in your garden but at least the
owner can share the pain. ;-)

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 16:05:50 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
...

What about those fake cats you can buy cheap? They're just two-
dimensional black cat-shaped cut-outs with green glass for eyes which you
position where the real cats can see them before entering your garden. I
gather they're quite effective.


Real cats will use it as a scratching post and laugh at you.

Even real cats don't generally stand a laugh at the passive IR
triggered water jets though (as I have seen to my great pleasure). It
was especially handy when I did have a veg patch as the jet would also
water the garden, as it swept though about 100 degrees and back
(catching any warm / moving 'thing' in it's path).

Now, if I'd only been able to feed the spray with liquid fertiliser at
mains pressure ... weg

Cheers, T i m

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:52:43 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 10:43:19 +0100, MM wrote:
snip

I've tried jets of water from the garden hose, but that isn't
effective.

Have you tried one of those motion-activated water sprays, something
like this http://tinyurl.com/z37cju4 ?

I have and they work very well. You do need a local hose feed though
and they don't fare too well in the winter.

snip

Actually, you should count yourself lucky. We get regularly visited by
a neighbour's dog. An altogether more substantial job!

Being as you say this is a neighbours dog (and presumably it's coming
into your garden without the neighbour) and you may well therefore
know who that is, have you ever mentioned what is happening to them
and what did they say (OOI)?

Is there no way you could stop the dog getting in, especially as it
sounds like a 'bigger' dog (as they are generally easier to stop than
cats, not that you should have to of course)?

Cheers, T i m

replying to MM, Rob Smith wrote:
I have found that keeping the grass short deters cats. I tend about 10 lawns,
some quite large and the only one that suffers is the one that I leave longer
on the insistence of its owner. All others are never longer than the second
setting on my Honda mowers.

--
posted from
http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/...n-1123267-.htm

"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
...
En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

The mower is probably still more sterile than the gents door handle in the
local pub.

This is a modern day problem. Trying to find the bit of the handle that
you think no one else has used. Or hang around looking dodgy until
someone else comes in or goes out and you can tailgate them, which makes
you look even dodgier.

I suppose you could wear latex gloves before entering and look normal:-)

And FFS the OP is whinging about a bit of nature. It's a couple of small
amimal turds.



--
Adam

On 17/04/16 16:18, T i m wrote:

I have badgers and foxes and cats crossing my garden
all the time and can't say it's ever been an issue, though admittedly I
prefer shrubs to flowers and vegetables.

And of course that's 'fine' for you because (as you have just said) it
doesn't impact you. But what if it did, what if you stood in some cat
(/fox/badger) mess on your way in and had walked it round the house
before you realised. What if your grand kids ill because when helping
with the flowers they touched some infected faeces? Al I'm saying is
no one (including me) generally 'bothers' about anything until it
affects them or their friends and family, and there seem to be enough
people here (even) that are affected by even cats cr*pping on their
property to suggest that it's no a 'non-issue' for many.

The problem with cats is that more people have them than keep foxes or
badgers g and may non-cat owners suffer because of their roaming and
fouling (even to the point where their owners state they DON't foul in
their own gardens!) and the lack of equality / balance between the
responsibilities of dog versus cat ownership.

Like I said, I might get a 'Cat / sh1te hawk' (called that because of
it's appetite for cats and the amount of (toxic) cat-based waste it
produces) and 'keep' it here (where 'here' is wherever the feck it
want's to go killing it's prey (that's 'nature' after all) and dumping
it out all over the place (but not here)). ;-)

I wonder how soon the cat owners would want me to place more control
over my 'pet'. ;-)

Cheers, T i m


I've just throttled the cat I adopted from next door, because they were
neglecting it ! I hadn't quite realised what an evil little b*****d he
was. Sorry ! ;-)