http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/

On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/


Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:36:46 +0000, Andy Cap wrote:

Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

Well, no society likes to be swamped by an alien influx of freeloaders
who have no respect whatsoever for the host country's customs and
traditions. Perhaps those folks who claim it's all an infernal plot to
destroy Western civilisation may be right after all!

On 17/02/16 09:36, Andy Cap wrote:
On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/



Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

But theirs will..


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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On 17/02/16 11:40, Julian Barnes wrote:
Perhaps those folks who claim it's all an infernal plot to
destroy Western civilisation may be right after all!

Of course it is. Socialism and marxism seek to destroy the state in
order that something 'better' will emerge.

Marx explains that socialist society, having risen from a self conscious
movement of the vast majority, makes such a society one of the vast
majority governing over their own lives:

€œThe proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of
the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority. The
proletariat, the lowest stratum of our present society, cannot stir,
cannot raise itself up, without the whole superincumbent strata of
official society being sprung into the air.€�

Thats the thesis. No more masters, the plebs will..well elect new
masters hahahah who will deprive everyone of private property and
capital and then divide it according to who deserves it most, namely the
most whining and workshy and organised scum.

Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****s.

Everyone should read up on Marxism, so they can recognise it when they
see it.


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****ew

You really really should seek treatment. Must be very sad to have to live
with such paranoia.

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Luckily the same applies to your favourite collection of liars and
nutcases, UKIP. That's if they have any members left by the next election.

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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:03:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Unless said "democracy" had been corrupted and undermined to facilitate
it, of course.

On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 15:32:42 UTC, Julian Barnes wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:03:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Unless said "democracy" had been corrupted and undermined to facilitate
it, of course.

Nearly happened in tower hamlets, luckily someone was on the ball to catch it.

On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 11:43:34 UTC, Julian Barnes wrote:
Well, no society likes to be swamped by an alien influx of freeloaders
who have no respect whatsoever for the host country's customs and
traditions.

I know, the northern lot that joined the UK in 1707 still haven't got round to learning morris dancing.

Owain

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****s.

Everyone should read up on Marxism, so they can recognise it when they
see it.

Or you can read the election leaflet sent around in 2014 for the Euro
elections by the Socialist Party. That says essentially the same as TNP
says, above.

You could read up about the monster raving looney party too. Or UKIP which
is pretty well the same, but with even fewer working brain cells.

It's what's known as free speech and choice. Something right wingers would
abolish given half a chance.

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harry wrote

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/

Bet there's a reason that racist rag didn't actually quote the comments he
made.

And I bet the number of syrians that will end up there is a lie too.

On 17/02/2016 1:31 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/02/16 09:36, Andy Cap wrote:
On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/




Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

But theirs will..




And that to me is the important factor in Britain's changing role.

I will liken it to the term, 'Half-cast'. There is nothing 'half'
about such people. Indeed, they are both of whatever nationality or
township the parents are from.

These people should be promoted to serve as ambassadors, their hearts
and minds being of both.

While I don't totally disagree with an earlier post of 'no respect for
local traditions', I do think that another culture brings with it
intelligence that will have benefit.

In a better future(that is evolving now), these people may make their
way back to the place they call home. When they do, their hearts and
minds may think fondly of those who took care of them.

The developing nations are growing stronger in production. We, in the
developed countries, are going to have to accept a future where tech is
reducing the need for labour and, income is going to dip to match a
world average. This will be our suffering.
For that reason, it may help to have people world wide who look upon
us as friends? This can hardly be said at the moment with our past history.

As for the concerns of those of us who think we are losing our
identity and traditions, such things have never ceased changing.


All easily said, I know.


....Ray.



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"Andy Cap" wrote in message
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On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/


Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

Plenty ran the same line in the runup to WW2 and during it.

It worked out fine anyway.

"Julian Barnes" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:36:46 +0000, Andy Cap wrote:

Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

Well, no society likes to be swamped by an alien influx of freeloaders
who have no respect whatsoever for the host country's customs and
traditions. Perhaps those folks who claim it's all an infernal plot to
destroy Western civilisation may be right after all!

Odd that a much bigger influx of people like
that before and after WW2 didnt do that.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 17/02/16 11:40, Julian Barnes wrote:
Perhaps those folks who claim it's all an infernal plot to
destroy Western civilisation may be right after all!

Of course it is. Socialism and marxism seek to destroy the state in order
that something 'better' will emerge.

True of marxism but not socialism.

The NHS isnt done like that to destroy the state,
its done like that because its a better approach
than insurance and delivers a much better result
than insurance, particularly for those who can't
afford the insurance premiums, but also for those
who can, just because nothing is skimmed off the
top for the insurance company shareholders or owners.

Marx explains that socialist society, having risen from a self conscious
movement of the vast majority, makes such a society one of the vast
majority governing over their own lives:

He didnt explain, he CLAIMED, a different matter entirely.

He also CLAIMED that the state would wither away, when
in fact what we actually saw was the exact opposite happen.

€œThe proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of
the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority.

In fact its much more complicated than that
with the middle class, of which he was part of.

The proletariat, the lowest stratum of our present society,

That is just plain wrong too. Those who dont work at all
were in fact a lower stratum of his society than the proletariat.

cannot stir, cannot raise itself up, without the whole superincumbent
strata of official society being sprung into the air.€�

He got that completely wrong too. What we did in fact see
was nothing even remotely like the whole superincumbent
strata of official society being sprung into the air. What we
actually saw was a move from organisations like workhouses
replaced by state welfare, a move to organisations like the
NHS and people like Maggie Thatcher moving away from
the state providing a very large chunk of the housing that
many of those at the bottom of society lived in to allowing
them to own what they lived in instead with those with a
real clue about how to do things with the state providing
the way to do that.

And the state giving up on the worst of socialism like the
state getting involved in the manufacture of cars, running
airlines, etc etc etc.

Thats the thesis. No more masters, the plebs will..well elect new masters
hahahah who will deprive everyone of private property and capital and then
divide it according to who deserves it most, namely the most whining and
workshy and organised scum.

And in fact it doesnt happen anything like that in the places
he got to have his approach tried for a decent amount of time.

It turned out that the state doing almost everything was in fact
a much worse way to do things than the state not getting involved
in some stuff like making almost everything, running almost everything.

Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on the
workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become ennobled
and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common good and the
plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are just as equal as
any one else. All this will come about naturally without anyone having to
impose it,

And that didnt even work with agriculture, let alone manufacturing.

Just another hair brained idea that was never going to happen,
just another pipe dream from a fool that had never actually
done a real days work in his entire pathetic excuse for a life.

once everything else is destroyed and its been forced on us and imposed on
us by - well new soaclist lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

That didnt happen either.

In a nutshell, the EU.

Nothing even remotely like the EU which doesnt have the
state involved in doing manufacturing, or agriculture either.

And Lefty****s.

What we actually has is everywhere as a mix of capitalism
and socialism with considerable variation in the mix they
decide to have. Some like Norway have the state much
more involved in their oil and gas industry than others,
and that turned out very well for them compared with
how Britain chose to do that stuff.

Almost everyone has the state involved in most of their
education, and now that's true of health care too.

Hardly anyone is silly enough to have the state make cars
anymore, and not all that many are silly enough to have
the state run the monopoly airline anymore either.

Even Hong Kong before it was handed back to China
had quite a bit of socialism, particularly with govt schools,
the postal service, the police and judicial system, and even
some minimal social welfare as well, tho nothing like what
there is in the most socialist western european countries.

NONE of the socialism seen in the west is about the deliberate
collapse of the state. Even when the state was involved in some
stuff like car manufacturing, that was never the purpose, to
collapse the state. Its was just silly ideas about the best way
to do things. There are still fools like Corbyn that want to
see a return to the state doing more than it does now, but
that has nothing to do with the intention to collapse the state.

Everyone should read up on Marxism, so they can recognise it when they see
it.

Clearly hasnt helped you to do that.

You can't even work out the difference between what that
fool Marx CLAIMED and what say was the fashion just after
the war had ended in Britain which was nothing even
remotely like Marxism. Neither is what that fool Corbyn
wants to see today either.

"Julian Barnes" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:03:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Unless said "democracy" had been corrupted and undermined to facilitate
it, of course.

Not even possible in a place like Britain.

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"Julian Barnes" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:03:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Unless said "democracy" had been corrupted and undermined to facilitate
it, of course.

Not even possible in a place like Britain.

**** off rod.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****s.

Everyone should read up on Marxism, so they can recognise it when they
see it.

Or you can read the election leaflet sent around in 2014 for the Euro
elections by the Socialist Party. That says essentially the same as TNP
says, above.

You could read up about the monster raving looney party too. Or UKIP which
is pretty well the same, but with even fewer working brain cells.

It's what's known as free speech and choice. Something right wingers would
abolish given half a chance.

Oh you ignorant tit. It is the left wing liberal who curtails freedom of
speech. Did you not read the linked article in the original post?

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on the
workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become ennobled
and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common good and the
plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are just as equal as
any one else. All this will come about naturally without anyone having to
impose it, once everything else is destroyed and its been forced on us and
imposed on us by - well new soaclist lackeys and state controlled
capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****s.

Everyone should read up on Marxism, so they can recognise it when they see
it.

Or you can read the election leaflet sent around in 2014 for the Euro
elections by the Socialist Party. That says essentially the same as TNP
says, above.

But not only doesnt the european parliament have any
real power, the Socialist Party has never had any possibility
of getting any say on anything policy wise either.

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****ew

You really really should seek treatment. Must be very sad to have to live
with such paranoia.

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

GDR?
Luckily the same applies to your favourite collection of liars and
nutcases, UKIP. That's if they have any members left by the next election.


--
bert

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****s.

Everyone should read up on Marxism, so they can recognise it when they
see it.

Or you can read the election leaflet sent around in 2014 for the Euro
elections by the Socialist Party. That says essentially the same as TNP
says, above.

You could read up about the monster raving looney party too. Or UKIP which
is pretty well the same, but with even fewer working brain cells.

It's what's known as free speech and choice. Something right wingers would
abolish given half a chance.

Ask the Labour moderates about that.
--
bert

"RayL12" wrote in message
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On 17/02/2016 1:31 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 17/02/16 09:36, Andy Cap wrote:
On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/




Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

But theirs will..




And that to me is the important factor in Britain's changing role.

I will liken it to the term, 'Half-cast'. There is nothing 'half' about
such people. Indeed, they are both of whatever nationality or township the
parents are from.

These people should be promoted to serve as ambassadors, their hearts and
minds being of both.

While I don't totally disagree with an earlier post of 'no respect for
local traditions', I do think that another culture brings with it
intelligence that will have benefit.

In a better future(that is evolving now), these people may make their way
back to the place they call home. When they do, their hearts and minds may
think fondly of those who took care of them.

The developing nations are growing stronger in production.

Because the labor costs are much lower there.

We, in the developed countries, are going to have to accept a future where
tech is reducing the need for labour

In fact we have moved from a situation where few married
women used to work to one where most do now, and still
have an unemployment rate that isnt much higher than
it was at its lowest. And the small increase we have seen
is presumably because the level of benefits paid now is
much higher than it used to be and so we are seeing
more who essentially decide that the standard of living
they get on benefits suits them fine and they would
rather not work in some boring job just for the income
which may in fact not be much higher at all in reality.

and, income is going to dip to match a world average.

Not a shred of evidence of anything like that happening.
In fact the reason that so much of the production of goods
has moved to developing countries is because the cost of
labor is so much lower there.

This will be our suffering.

I dont believe that either, particularly with the countries that
dont have enough of a clue to limit the number of kids they
have. Places like Bangladesh and the Philippines will always
have a real standard of living much worse than in say western
europe. The worst of eastern europe and the middle east too.

For that reason, it may help to have people world wide who look upon us as
friends? This can hardly be said at the moment with our past history.

But its far from clear that accepting some syrians now
will make any real difference in that regard now.

As for the concerns of those of us who think we are losing our identity
and traditions, such things have never ceased changing.

And in fact changed a lot more than they are doing now.

All easily said, I know.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:36:46 +0000, Andy Cap
wrote:

On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/


Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

If you bother to read the Express article they linked to (they
obviously didn't), the 1000 imigrants to Bute turn out to be 28 adults
and 31 children, most of whom are already there. They also think Bute
is a tiny island, it's half the size of Birmingham.

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"Julian Barnes" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:03:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Unless said "democracy" had been corrupted and undermined to facilitate
it, of course.

Not even possible in a place like Britain.

**** off rod.

Go and **** yourself, gutless.

"bert" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Its cat belling. The idea is that once freed of the capitalist boot on
the workers throat, and the capitalist lackeys, people will become
ennobled and selflessly donate their skills and labour for the common
good and the plebs who are essentially useless will be told they are
just as equal as any one else. All this will come about naturally
without anyone having to impose it, once everything else is destroyed
and its been forced on us and imposed on us by - well new soaclist
lackeys and state controlled capitalists.

In a nutshell, the EU. And Lefty****ew

You really really should seek treatment. Must be very sad to have to live
with such paranoia.

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

GDR?

That was never a democracy.

Luckily the same applies to your favourite collection of liars and
nutcases, UKIP. That's if they have any members left by the next election.


--
bert

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"hgww" wrote in message ...



"Julian Barnes" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:03:47 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

There has been no true Marxist etc party that has come close to getting
any form of power in the UK. Because it wouldn't in any democracy.

Unless said "democracy" had been corrupted and undermined to facilitate
it, of course.

Not even possible in a place like Britain.

**** off rod.
love it.

"mcp" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:36:46 +0000, Andy Cap
wrote:

On 17/02/16 09:17, harry wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ffence-online/


Those who believe that level of immigration is acceptable, need to get
their heads out of the sand. Our children are not going to thank us.

If you bother to read the Express article they linked to (they
obviously didn't), the 1000 imigrants to Bute turn out to be 28 adults
and 31 children, most of whom are already there. They also think Bute
is a tiny island, it's half the size of Birmingham.

Birmingham. Well done, a not very well thought out response.
q
The chart below shows that the largest ethnic group in Birmingham was White
British with 570,217 (53.1%). This is down from 2001 (65.6%) and lower than
the average in England (79.8%).
Other large groups include Pakistani (144,627, 13.5%) and Indian (64,621,
6.0%) which have grown since 2001, while people defining themselves as Black
Caribbean (47,641, 4.4%) have declined.
/q
Source :
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Sate...pper%2FWrapper
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jhyehju

Bet in the early days, the thinking was "what difference does a few make?"
A ****ing huge difference when the birth rate is excessive. Anyway, there is
an upside as the Black Caribbean seems to be in decline so they must be
feeling similar angst.

On 18/02/16 07:08, Richard wrote:
Anyway, there is an upside as the Black Caribbean seems to be in decline
so they must be feeling similar angst.

Birmingham is enough to put anyone off sex.

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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:56:54 +0000, RayL12 wrote:

I will liken it to the term, 'Half-cast'. There is nothing 'half'
about such people. Indeed, they are both of whatever nationality or
township the parents are from.

These people should be promoted to serve as ambassadors, their hearts
and minds being of both.

I remember having an interesting conversation with a fellow patient in a
hospital waiting room about 25 years ago. I've never forgotten it. He
told me that when a black person and a white person couple-up and 'make a
baby' then the offspring of that baby, even a thousand generations into
the future, will never, ever be of pure blood again. And if you think
about it, that's true. Funny thing was, the bloke who told me this (can't
remember how we got onto the subject after all this time) was himself
black; black as the ace of spades. It just goes to show "racism" isn't
solely a white trait, much as the BBC would like to portray it as such.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:30:26 +1100, hgww wrote:

Not even possible in a place like Britain.

*Plonk!*
****ing "Speed" again - get back where you belong, cretin.

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:25:41 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Richard
wrote:

Oh you ignorant tit. It is the left wing liberal who curtails freedom of
speech.

As we are seeing on university campuses up and down the land.

Yes, and those moronic little "students" will pay a terrible price for
their complicity in this further down the line when they're eventually
older and wiser.

On 18/02/16 13:56, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:56:54 +0000, RayL12 wrote:

I will liken it to the term, 'Half-cast'. There is nothing 'half'
about such people. Indeed, they are both of whatever nationality or
township the parents are from.

These people should be promoted to serve as ambassadors, their hearts
and minds being of both.

I remember having an interesting conversation with a fellow patient in a
hospital waiting room about 25 years ago. I've never forgotten it. He
told me that when a black person and a white person couple-up and 'make a
baby' then the offspring of that baby, even a thousand generations into
the future, will never, ever be of pure blood again. And if you think
about it, that's true. Funny thing was, the bloke who told me this (can't
remember how we got onto the subject after all this time) was himself
black; black as the ace of spades. It just goes to show "racism" isn't
solely a white trait, much as the BBC would like to portray it as such.

Since we are all in fact Africans originally, it does call into question
what pure blood you are in fact talking about.


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In article , Cursitor Doom
writes
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:56:54 +0000, RayL12 wrote:

I will liken it to the term, 'Half-cast'. There is nothing 'half'
about such people. Indeed, they are both of whatever nationality or
township the parents are from.

These people should be promoted to serve as ambassadors, their hearts
and minds being of both.

I remember having an interesting conversation with a fellow patient in a
hospital waiting room about 25 years ago. I've never forgotten it. He
told me that when a black person and a white person couple-up and 'make a
baby' then the offspring of that baby, even a thousand generations into
the future, will never, ever be of pure blood again.
Well on that basis the original parents weren't of pure blood to start
with. Don't know about humans but in dog breeding the influence of one
sire is generally considered to be negligible after 4 generations
And if you think
about it, that's true. Funny thing was, the bloke who told me this (can't
remember how we got onto the subject after all this time) was himself
black; black as the ace of spades. It just goes to show "racism" isn't
solely a white trait, much as the BBC would like to portray it as such.
When watching TV you might count how many mixed race couples are black
man on white woman rather than the other way round.
--
bert

In article ,
hgww wrote:
Of course it is. Socialism and marxism seek to destroy the state in
order that something 'better' will emerge.

True of marxism but not socialism.

You have to remember you're talking to turnip. He can only see in black
and white.

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*The older you get, the better you realize you were.

Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Richard wrote:
You could read up about the monster raving looney party too. Or UKIP
which is pretty well the same, but with even fewer working brain cells.

It's what's known as free speech and choice. Something right wingers
would abolish given half a chance.

Oh you ignorant tit. It is the left wing liberal who curtails freedom of
speech. Did you not read the linked article in the original post?

Why would I read any article linked to in a thread like this? It's obvious
what it says by who started the thread.

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In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
Oh you ignorant tit. It is the left wing liberal who curtails freedom
of speech.

As we are seeing on university campuses up and down the land.

Quite easy to explain, that. The usual right wingers invite some prat with
extreme views that they have no real interest in - and are perfectly aware
is a looney. Knowing full well it will get a reaction from others. So they
can bleat on about freedom of speech etc.
When they don't actually give a damn about any freedoms - except their own.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
I remember having an interesting conversation with a fellow patient in a
hospital waiting room about 25 years ago. I've never forgotten it. He
told me that when a black person and a white person couple-up and 'make a
baby' then the offspring of that baby, even a thousand generations into
the future, will never, ever be of pure blood again. And if you think
about it, that's true. Funny thing was, the bloke who told me this (can't
remember how we got onto the subject after all this time) was himself
black; black as the ace of spades. It just goes to show "racism" isn't
solely a white trait, much as the BBC would like to portray it as such.

Be interesting what you'd define as 'pure blood'?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 18/02/2016 13:56, Cursitor Doom wrote:

I remember having an interesting conversation with a fellow patient in a
hospital waiting room about 25 years ago. I've never forgotten it. He
told me that when a black person and a white person couple-up and 'make a
baby' then the offspring of that baby, even a thousand generations into
the future, will never, ever be of pure blood again. And if you think
about it, that's true.

It is indeed true and that means there isn't a single person in the UK
and even the world that is of pure blood. Its only the stupid racists
that think they are even when they can't be by definition (their own
definition).

In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:25:41 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Richard
wrote:

Oh you ignorant tit. It is the left wing liberal who curtails freedom of
speech.

As we are seeing on university campuses up and down the land.

Yes, and those moronic little "students" will pay a terrible price for
their complicity in this further down the line when they're eventually
older and wiser.


Very true. Met up with a pal I've not seen for a long time at a funeral
yesterday. He was one of those extreme right wing students. Market forces
etc are the only important thing.

He got some odd degree no use to man or beast, and after a series of dead
end jobs did The Knowledge and became a black cab driver.

Yesterday, went on and on about Uber. And that he had difficulty paying
his rent.

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 14:15:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Since we are all in fact Africans originally, it does call into question
what pure blood you are in fact talking about.

Well that's the prevailing dogma, isn't it? If any evidence showed up to
contradict it, it would doubtless be buried PDQ. In fact it's probably
already happened!