I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like 18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated 2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black writing. Are these real?

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Mr Macaw wrote:
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

If you buy from a "genuine" dealer then you can get branded items
instead of unbadged.

The Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 -0000, Dumb Guy wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries
(like 18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc.
I've had Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead
of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some
black writing. Are these real?

I keep asking myself: are YOU for real, Dumb Guy? LOL

Is this tonights entertainment? Yet another trolling load of **** from
PHucker, the clown of Usenet?

On 06/01/2016 17:27, Bob Minchin wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote:
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

If you buy from a "genuine" dealer then you can get branded items
instead of unbadged.


there are plenty of supplier online, try using a search engine

On 06/01/16 17:10, The Peeler wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 -0000, Dumb Guy wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

I keep asking myself: are YOU for real, Dumb Guy? LOL

http://www.battery-force.co.uk/categ...Batteries.html

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eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:27:44 -0000, Bob Minchin wrote:

Mr Macaw wrote:
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

If you buy from a "genuine" dealer then you can get branded items
instead of unbadged.

Errrr, that's what I'm looking for. My question, again, is simply "Are batteries without a Panasonic logo actually Panasonic?" There are many dealers selling "Genuine Panasonic" batteries but there are no badges on them. Are Li-Ions classed like the type you'd buy to fit into a drill battery - i.e. non-consumer so no logo?

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The other blonde turns and says "Helloooooooooo, can you see Florida ?????"

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:35:12 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

On 06/01/2016 17:27, Bob Minchin wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote:
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

If you buy from a "genuine" dealer then you can get branded items
instead of unbadged.

there are plenty of supplier online, try using a search engine

[Shakes head in disbelief] I've looked at many suppliers. Many suppliers sell "genuine" batteries that don't look genuine. My question is NOT where can I buy genuines, but it's "are they genuine without a badge?"

--
When the Viagra virus comes to your PC, all your software becomes hardware.

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

That's all very well for bog standard AAs. Not for high capacity Li-Ions, shops just don't do those. Anyway, shopping on a high street is impossible, have you not noticed they don't let you take cars on the high street anymore? High street shops have been killed off. If it's not in a supermarket, I buy it online.

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On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on
them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If
they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to
Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

Odd that they don't properly brand what they sell tho.

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:34:04 -0000, 879 wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on
them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If
they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to
Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

Odd that they don't properly brand what they sell tho.

I think it's because they're classed as cells to make packs with (especially flat tops). Like the tagged NiCads you used to get (which I can't find to replace the cells in my dead drill battery). I bought the wrong drill battery so I can swap them over (the right one cost twice as much!)

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"Why is it doing that?", "Where the hell are we?", and "Oh ****!"

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:34:04 -0000, 879 wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries
(like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've
had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some
black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on
them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If
they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to
Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

Odd that they don't properly brand what they sell tho.

I think it's because they're classed as cells to make packs with
(especially flat tops). Like the tagged NiCads you used to get (which I
can't find to replace the cells in my dead drill battery). I bought the
wrong drill battery so I can swap them over (the right one cost twice as
much!)

Still no reason to not properly brand them with fakes so common.

On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 01:53:51 -0000, 879 wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:34:04 -0000, 879 wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries
(like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've
had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some
black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on
them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If
they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to
Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

Odd that they don't properly brand what they sell tho.

I think it's because they're classed as cells to make packs with
(especially flat tops). Like the tagged NiCads you used to get (which I
can't find to replace the cells in my dead drill battery). I bought the
wrong drill battery so I can swap them over (the right one cost twice as
much!)

Still no reason to not properly brand them with fakes so common.

Agreed.

--
What do you call it when a blonde drives down the street with her head out the window?
Refueling.

On 07/01/2016 01:53, 879 wrote:


"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:34:04 -0000, 879 wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries
(like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc.
I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the
rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some
black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on
them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If
they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to
Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

Odd that they don't properly brand what they sell tho.

I think it's because they're classed as cells to make packs with
(especially flat tops). Like the tagged NiCads you used to get (which
I can't find to replace the cells in my dead drill battery). I bought
the wrong drill battery so I can swap them over (the right one cost
twice as much!)

Still no reason to not properly brand them with fakes so common.

the 'Panasonics' I can see on line have Panasonic printed on the battery

In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

One selling mobile phones might have spares for sale.

A computer shop.

A powertool shop (the one on my High St has sadly closed, but there
must be one somewhere).

Argos: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/3896170.htm

regards, Ian SMith
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 13:01:00 -0000, Mrcheerful wrote:

On 07/01/2016 01:53, 879 wrote:


"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:34:04 -0000, 879 wrote:



"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 20:10:18 -0000, Cursitor Doom
wrote:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:00:10 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries
(like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc.
I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the
rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no
makers badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some
black
writing. Are these real?

IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it would
take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established
high st. retailer would be my advice.

Well I bought some genuine Panasonic online that don't say Panasonic on
them, and tested them. They do actually hold 3.1Ah like they say. If
they hadn't, I'd simply ask for my money back and/or report them to
Panasonic. They hate people forging their stuff.

Odd that they don't properly brand what they sell tho.

I think it's because they're classed as cells to make packs with
(especially flat tops). Like the tagged NiCads you used to get (which
I can't find to replace the cells in my dead drill battery). I bought
the wrong drill battery so I can swap them over (the right one cost
twice as much!)

Still no reason to not properly brand them with fakes so common.

the 'Panasonics' I can see on line have Panasonic printed on the battery

What about a Li-Ion 18650 flat top?

--
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it
would take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established high st. retailer would be my advice.

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

Maplin - probably not actually on the high street any more but still
real retail outlets. Does RS count? They have 16 branches in the UK.

In article ,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it
would take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established high st. retailer would be my advice.

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

Maplin - probably not actually on the high street any more but still
real retail outlets.

I'd be surprised if the majority of the Maplin shops stock their entire
range of batteries.

Does RS count? They have 16 branches in the UK.

Think that is stretching the 'High Street' a bit far. ;-)

Obviously, my first choice would be mail order from a decent UK
electronics supplier.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Rob Morley wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT)
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
IME it's a waste of time buying batteries online. There are so many
forgeries out there and they look *so* convincing these days it
would take an expert to tell them from the real thing.
Swallow the extra expense and buy your batteries from a well
established high st. retailer would be my advice.

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

Maplin - probably not actually on the high street any more but still
real retail outlets.

I'd be surprised if the majority of the Maplin shops stock their entire
range of batteries.

Does RS count? They have 16 branches in the UK.

Think that is stretching the 'High Street' a bit far. ;-)

Obviously, my first choice would be mail order from a decent UK
electronics supplier.

There as number of established and reliable battery sellers online.

I think it's a rather quaint idea that buying on the high street is
necessarily anymore reliable nowadays
--
Chris French

In article ,
Chris French wrote:
Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

Maplin - probably not actually on the high street any more but still
real retail outlets.

I'd be surprised if the majority of the Maplin shops stock their entire
range of batteries.

Does RS count? They have 16 branches in the UK.

Think that is stretching the 'High Street' a bit far. ;-)

Obviously, my first choice would be mail order from a decent UK
electronics supplier.

There as number of established and reliable battery sellers online.

I think it's a rather quaint idea that buying on the high street is
necessarily anymore reliable nowadays

Well, quite. Unless you want coffee or an estate agent. ;-)

I did a long time ago buy some tagged Sub C cells off Ebay at a price that
looked too good to be true. From the far east. And so it proved. They were
useless. No problem getting a refund, though.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Chris French wrote:
Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

Maplin - probably not actually on the high street any more but still
real retail outlets.

I'd be surprised if the majority of the Maplin shops stock their entire
range of batteries.

Does RS count? They have 16 branches in the UK.

Think that is stretching the 'High Street' a bit far. ;-)

Obviously, my first choice would be mail order from a decent UK
electronics supplier.

There as number of established and reliable battery sellers online.

I think it's a rather quaint idea that buying on the high street is
necessarily anymore reliable nowadays

Well, quite. Unless you want coffee or an estate agent. ;-)

or a hair cut. They don't do those on line yet

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On 07/01/16 17:05, charles wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Chris French wrote:
Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

Maplin - probably not actually on the high street any more but still
real retail outlets.

I'd be surprised if the majority of the Maplin shops stock their entire
range of batteries.

Does RS count? They have 16 branches in the UK.

Think that is stretching the 'High Street' a bit far. ;-)

Obviously, my first choice would be mail order from a decent UK
electronics supplier.

There as number of established and reliable battery sellers online.

I think it's a rather quaint idea that buying on the high street is
necessarily anymore reliable nowadays

Well, quite. Unless you want coffee or an estate agent. ;-)

or a hair cut. They don't do those on line yet

well in fact they do. There are itinerant hair dressers who will trim
you at home...available on the end of an email or mobile phone.


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guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:40:11 -0000, Ian Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

One selling mobile phones might have spares for sale.

A computer shop.

A powertool shop (the one on my High St has sadly closed, but there
must be one somewhere).

Argos: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/3896170.htm

regards, Ian SMith

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search...Term/18650.htm

says sorry don't know about them

as we (were anyway) talking about cycle lamp batteries, not powerpacks for
drills

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 13:15:28 -0000, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:40:11 -0000, Ian Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

One selling mobile phones might have spares for sale.

A computer shop.

A powertool shop (the one on my High St has sadly closed, but there
must be one somewhere).

Argos: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/3896170.htm

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search...Term/18650.htm
says sorry don't know about them

as we (were anyway) talking about cycle lamp batteries, not powerpacks for
drills

I wouldn't expect to find 18650s at Argos, no. However, whatever you
were talking about, I was answering the question "Which High St shop
would sell Li-ion batteries", and of the many High St shops that
sell Li-ion batteries, Argos is one.

If you want to move the goalposts over to "Which High St shop would
sell Li-ion 18650 cells", then the closest to me would be Maplin, in
the next town north from my own. It seems I have to order online, but
I can them collect them from the High St in three days time.

regards, Ian Smith
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On 08/01/2016 15:39, Ian Smith wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 13:15:28 -0000, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:40:11 -0000, Ian Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:02:03 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

Which High Street shop would sell Li-ion batteries?

One selling mobile phones might have spares for sale.

A computer shop.

A powertool shop (the one on my High St has sadly closed, but there
must be one somewhere).

Argos: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/3896170.htm

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search...Term/18650.htm
says sorry don't know about them

as we (were anyway) talking about cycle lamp batteries, not powerpacks for
drills

I wouldn't expect to find 18650s at Argos, no. However, whatever you
were talking about, I was answering the question "Which High St shop
would sell Li-ion batteries", and of the many High St shops that
sell Li-ion batteries, Argos is one.

If you want to move the goalposts over to "Which High St shop would
sell Li-ion 18650 cells", then the closest to me would be Maplin, in
the next town north from my own. It seems I have to order online, but
I can them collect them from the High St in three days time.

regards, Ian Smith



Buying a drill battery would be the cheapest way to get 18650s, but you
would not know the make.

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

E Fags have propelled 18650 development, one linked is an INR as against IMR or ICR 18650 lion

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...to_know_about/

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 14:59:14 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

E Fags have propelled 18650 development, one linked is an INR as against IMR or ICR 18650 lion

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...to_know_about/

That link doesn't tell us everything about every type of cell. Which ones have higher internal resistance? How much of a resistance increase is it? And is there any other significant difference? (Apart from the capacity which you can obviously see from the rating on the side).

My Panasonics are NCR18650A, so what type are those? Is it a combination of INR and ICR, hence the NC?

I'm happy with the Panasonics anyway - I tested them and they have the full rated capacity of 3.1AH when drained over several hours in a torch, unusual for a battery to actually do what it says on the tin!

--
"The Ten Commandments contain 297 words.
The Bill of Rights is stated in 463 words.
Lincoln's Gettysburg Address contains 266 words.
A recent federal directive to regulate the price of cabbage contains 26,911 words." -- Atlanta Journal

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

If your after cheap, these are 2 Samsung 2200 ICR ( dont use for efags) wrapped together, the tabs lever off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172008907654

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:08:52 -0000, Mr Macaw wrote:

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 14:59:14 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

E Fags have propelled 18650 development, one linked is an INR as against IMR or ICR 18650 lion

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...to_know_about/

That link doesn't tell us everything about every type of cell. Which ones have higher internal resistance? How much of a resistance increase is it? And is there any other significant difference? (Apart from the capacity which you can obviously see from the rating on the side).

My Panasonics are NCR18650A, so what type are those? Is it a combination of INR and ICR, hence the NC?

I'm happy with the Panasonics anyway - I tested them and they have the full rated capacity of 3.1AH when drained over several hours in a torch, unusual for a battery to actually do what it says on the tin!

After reading a link from your link, it seems I've managed to buy very good ones, they're used by Andrew Wan for rebadging.
http://industrial.panasonic.com/cdbs...A4000CE254.pdf

--
What is the difference between a female jogger and a sewing machine?
A sewing machine only has one bobbin.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:08:59 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 14:59:14 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

E Fags have propelled 18650 development, one linked is an INR as against IMR or ICR 18650 lion

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...to_know_about/

That link doesn't tell us everything about every type of cell. Which ones have higher internal resistance? How much of a resistance increase is it? And is there any other significant difference? (Apart from the capacity which you can obviously see from the rating on the side).

My Panasonics are NCR18650A, so what type are those? Is it a combination of INR and ICR, hence the NC?

I'm happy with the Panasonics anyway - I tested them and they have the full rated capacity of 3.1AH when drained over several hours in a torch, unusual for a battery to actually do what it says on the tin!

--
"The Ten Commandments contain 297 words.
The Bill of Rights is stated in 463 words.
Lincoln's Gettysburg Address contains 266 words.
A recent federal directive to regulate the price of cabbage contains 26,911 words." -- Atlanta Journal

"NCR batteries are a new type of bat- tery manufactured by Panasonic. NCR batteries use a Cobalt cathode like ICR batteries but have the same hybrid makeup with nickel which IMR batteries have. This provides for higher drain capabilities while also having
higher overall battery capacity. "

http://vapetv.com/forum/thread/80/ba...ed-and-safety/

Big subject

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...ased_batteries

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:09:47 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

If your after cheap, these are 2 Samsung 2200 ICR ( dont use for efags) wrapped together, the tabs lever off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172008907654

I'm primarily after high capacity as they're for a torch I'm taking on trips and I want to carry the least spares possible.

That link says Varta, not Samsung, and the capacity is terrible. I've also read a review that Samsung tend to have only 80% of their rated capacity (not quite as bad as Ultrafire/Trustfire's 25%! - why aren't they done for fraud?). I'll stick to Panasonic.

--
A woman brought an old picture of her dead husband, wearing a hat, to the photographer. She wanted to know if the photographer could remove the hat from the picture.
He convinced her he could easily do that, and asked her what side of his head her husband parted his hair on.
"I forgot," she said. "But you can see that for yourself when you take off his hat."

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:20:40 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:09:47 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

If your after cheap, these are 2 Samsung 2200 ICR ( dont use for efags) wrapped together, the tabs lever off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172008907654

I'm primarily after high capacity as they're for a torch I'm taking on trips and I want to carry the least spares possible.

That link says Varta, not Samsung, and the capacity is terrible. I've also read a review that Samsung tend to have only 80% of their rated capacity (not quite as bad as Ultrafire/Trustfire's 25%! - why aren't they done for fraud?). I'll stick to Panasonic.

--
A woman brought an old picture of her dead husband, wearing a hat, to the photographer. She wanted to know if the photographer could remove the hat from the picture.
He convinced her he could easily do that, and asked her what side of his head her husband parted his hair on.
"I forgot," she said. "But you can see that for yourself when you take off his hat."

cells within are Samsung , bought a few , actually cheaper than pair of AA rechargebles for intended use, cost is inline with capacity marking them out as elderly stock.

Is there actually a genuine Trustfire /Ultrafire item anywhere, its just like a generic dodgy name to stick on any old , totally out of spec tat :-)

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:20:00 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:08:59 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 14:59:14 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

E Fags have propelled 18650 development, one linked is an INR as against IMR or ICR 18650 lion

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_...to_know_about/

That link doesn't tell us everything about every type of cell. Which ones have higher internal resistance? How much of a resistance increase is it? And is there any other significant difference? (Apart from the capacity which you can obviously see from the rating on the side).

My Panasonics are NCR18650A, so what type are those? Is it a combination of INR and ICR, hence the NC?

I'm happy with the Panasonics anyway - I tested them and they have the full rated capacity of 3.1AH when drained over several hours in a torch, unusual for a battery to actually do what it says on the tin!

"NCR batteries are a new type of bat- tery manufactured by Panasonic. NCR batteries use a Cobalt cathode like ICR batteries but have the same hybrid makeup with nickel which IMR batteries have. This provides for higher drain capabilities while also having
higher overall battery capacity. "

http://vapetv.com/forum/thread/80/ba...ed-and-safety/

Big subject

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...ased_batteries

Looks like I've got good ones then. I did look at a load of graphs on reviews to find the ones that had the best capacity. There are so many makes that simply aren't the capacity that it says on the tin, and I have to wonder why they aren't taken to court by trading standards. I mean if you bought a pint of milk in Asda and it only contains 3/4 of a pint, there'd be a public outcry, so why can Trustfire sell batteries rated at 2000mAh which are actually only 500mAh? I guess you could get them free from most Ebay sellers by moaning that they're **** and getting your money back, then they can't be bothered paying for the return postage.

--
"Oh god," sighed the wife one morning, "I'm convinced my mind is almost completely gone!"
Her husband looked up from the newspaper and commented,
"I'm not surprised: You've been giving me a piece of it every day for twenty years!"

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:27:43 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:20:40 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:09:47 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

If your after cheap, these are 2 Samsung 2200 ICR ( dont use for efags) wrapped together, the tabs lever off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172008907654

I'm primarily after high capacity as they're for a torch I'm taking on trips and I want to carry the least spares possible.

That link says Varta, not Samsung, and the capacity is terrible. I've also read a review that Samsung tend to have only 80% of their rated capacity (not quite as bad as Ultrafire/Trustfire's 25%! - why aren't they done for fraud?). I'll stick to Panasonic.

--
A woman brought an old picture of her dead husband, wearing a hat, to the photographer. She wanted to know if the photographer could remove the hat from the picture.
He convinced her he could easily do that, and asked her what side of his head her husband parted his hair on.
"I forgot," she said. "But you can see that for yourself when you take off his hat."

cells within are Samsung , bought a few , actually cheaper than pair of AA rechargebles for intended use, cost is inline with capacity marking them out as elderly stock.

Is there actually a genuine Trustfire /Ultrafire item anywhere, its just like a generic dodgy name to stick on any old , totally out of spec tat :-)

Well their website says they only make torches: http://www.trustfire.com
Must be a load of conartists making batteries FOR Trustfire torches?!

--
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:30:28 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:27:43 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:20:40 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:09:47 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

If your after cheap, these are 2 Samsung 2200 ICR ( dont use for efags) wrapped together, the tabs lever off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172008907654

I'm primarily after high capacity as they're for a torch I'm taking on trips and I want to carry the least spares possible.

That link says Varta, not Samsung, and the capacity is terrible. I've also read a review that Samsung tend to have only 80% of their rated capacity (not quite as bad as Ultrafire/Trustfire's 25%! - why aren't they done for fraud?). I'll stick to Panasonic.

--
A woman brought an old picture of her dead husband, wearing a hat, to the photographer. She wanted to know if the photographer could remove the hat from the picture.
He convinced her he could easily do that, and asked her what side of his head her husband parted his hair on.
"I forgot," she said. "But you can see that for yourself when you take off his hat."

cells within are Samsung , bought a few , actually cheaper than pair of AA rechargebles for intended use, cost is inline with capacity marking them out as elderly stock.

Is there actually a genuine Trustfire /Ultrafire item anywhere, its just like a generic dodgy name to stick on any old , totally out of spec tat :-)

Well their website says they only make torches: http://www.trustfire.com
Must be a load of conartists making batteries FOR Trustfire torches?!

Darn like I need another torch, might have to try a genuine Trustfire

Batteries are under accesories.

--
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:43:38 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:30:28 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:27:43 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 3:20:40 PM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:09:47 -0000, Adam Aglionby wrote:

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:07:00 AM UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:59:12 -0000, Bertie Doe wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
I'm finding it rather difficult to buy real Lithium Ion batteries (like
18650s) online. By real I mean something like Panasonic etc.. I've had
Chinese unbadged ones before and they've held 1Ah instead of the rated
2.6Ah. The "Genuine" ones don't seem to look like they used to, no makers
badge and fancy colours, just a plain green shell with some black
writing. Are these real?

7Dayshop is a genuine company. I've been using them for a few years,
although their own-brand rechargeables, are no more than medium quality.

Putting 18650 into their search gives :-
https://www.7dayshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=18650

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Top-7-1865...8349265/g.html

That answers my question - the ones they call genuine Samsung look very plain, I would have thought Samsung would want them to look better than that to avoid copies:
https://www.7dayshop.com/products/sa...BATSAMBLU25RX4

--
My ex-wife was temperamental.
90% temper and 10% mental.

If your after cheap, these are 2 Samsung 2200 ICR ( dont use for efags) wrapped together, the tabs lever off.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172008907654

I'm primarily after high capacity as they're for a torch I'm taking on trips and I want to carry the least spares possible.

That link says Varta, not Samsung, and the capacity is terrible. I've also read a review that Samsung tend to have only 80% of their rated capacity (not quite as bad as Ultrafire/Trustfire's 25%! - why aren't they done for fraud?). I'll stick to Panasonic.


cells within are Samsung , bought a few , actually cheaper than pair of AA rechargebles for intended use, cost is inline with capacity marking them out as elderly stock.

Is there actually a genuine Trustfire /Ultrafire item anywhere, its just like a generic dodgy name to stick on any old , totally out of spec tat :-)

Well their website says they only make torches: http://www.trustfire.com
Must be a load of conartists making batteries FOR Trustfire torches?!

Darn like I need another torch, might have to try a genuine Trustfire

I just bought a £7 CREE 2500 lumen head torch. Useful for DIY under the floor, cycling, hillwalking, etc. It runs as bright as a car headlamp for 8 hours on two of the Panasonic batteries I bought.

Batteries are under accesories.

Ah, their website is as badly designed as their batteries. I was only seeing the top sellers.

--
Little Tony was staying with his grandmother for a few days.. He'd been playing outside with the other kids for a while when he came into the house and asked her, "Grandma, what's that called when 2 people sleep in the same room and one is on top of the other?"

She was a little taken, but she decided to just tell him the truth. "It's called sexual intercourse, darling".

Little Tony just said, "Oh, OK," and went back outside to play with the other kids.

A few minutes later he came back in and said angrily, "Grandma, it isn't called sexual intercourse. It's called "Bunk Beds". And Jimmy's mom wants to talk to you."