Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Thanks,
Stephen.

In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

There used to be a product called, I think, "Damp Start" wich you sprayed
into the air intake for situations like this. It seemed - from the smell -
to be a highly combustable product - so it probbly got banned under some
regulation.

--
Please note new email address:

In article ,
charles wrote:
In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

There used to be a product called, I think, "Damp Start" wich you sprayed
into the air intake for situations like this. It seemed - from the smell -
to be a highly combustable product - so it probbly got banned under some
regulation.

If you're down-under, then:

http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Aer...Engine_Starter

would be the product to use...

(however if I were the OP, yes, I'd dump the pre-mixed stuff and fill it with fresh)

Gordon

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen wrote:

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has been
in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Definitely. Two-smoke mix separates over time, apart from anything else,
so you'll have some really oily fuel at the bottom and plain petrol at
the top of the tank.

It's probably a bit gummed up in the carb, and maybe the pump diaphragm's
gone hard or even torn. But it really shouldn't be hard to get going.

On 08/10/2015 09:59, Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Thanks,
Stephen.

I find the jet in the carb of my (4 stroke) Honda generator gets
gummed-up so, if I haven't run the gen for a long time, I need to clear
the jet with a bit of wire or a small drill (smaller then the orifice,
of course!). Changing the fuel is a good idea.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen
wrote:

Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

I get many old chainsaws brought to me, last one was a Husqvarna 136
which had been abandoned 5 years previously and the fuel tank was
still 3/4 full. They normally start fine.

Main thing is the check for spark with plug out.

I often preheat the plug to burn any oil residue off. Then start as
normal, up to ten pulls with choke on or until it fires then choke off
and part throttle. If it fires then run on full throttle, as often any
fuel that has seeped into the crankcase will have evaporated leaving
the oil which needs burning off before it fouls the plug.

If the plug fouls heat it again

Holts easy start is still available from Halfords but only a whiff
and it doesn't work if there is a fundamental engine problem.

I too use one of these little gensets and it can be a pig to start
after storage but it always goes eventually. I'm told, but not tried
due to the expense, to leave them with Aspen2 mix in the tank for
easier starting.

AJH

"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen
wrote:

Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

You occasionally see suggestions that fuel left to stand
for long periods loses its ability to fire up (not sure whether
that applies to petrol alone, or two-stroke mix, or both).

Both. More strictly the more volatile components can
evaporate away in anything worse than a real jerrycan.

It sometimes happens with garden machinery that's been
left in a shed over winter, and then won't start in the spring.

Particularly in 2 stroke engines that can be pretty marginal
starting wise at times with the worst of them.

The explanation offered is that volatile components
evaporate, resulting in greater difficulty in starting.

Yep.

I've never been very convinced by the explanation,

I have. Particularly when new fuel sees it start fine.

but the fact of poor starting behaviour
using fuel that's stood around, remains.

And there isnt anything else other than gummy
stuff in the carb that would explain that result.

I'd drain out the old fuel, use some freshly made-up mixture and
also flush the fuel line with it, clean the plug outside and in,

I wouldn't bother doing that plug stuff unless it doesn't start
with the fresh fuel.

bring the genny into a warmish place to dry out any condensation
or damp that might have built up in the ignition system over time,

That shouldn't trouble most 2 strokes.

and try again.

In article ,
Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen wrote:

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has been
in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Definitely. Two-smoke mix separates over time, apart from anything else,
so you'll have some really oily fuel at the bottom and plain petrol at
the top of the tank.

It's probably a bit gummed up in the carb, and maybe the pump diaphragm's
gone hard or even torn. But it really shouldn't be hard to get going.

and, something else I thought of: take the spark plug out and clean/regap
it.

--
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You need to be careful. the original dampstart was just a fluid which
repelled moisture, but later it also came as a film coating in a can to
spray on ignition leads and terminals to stop the damp getting in.

I don't know this product you have, but it could be a good idea to drain the
existing fuel out and put fresh in at least to get it going.
I'm assuming its got one of those shoulder dislocating pull chord has it?
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
Remember, if you don't like where I post
or what I say, you don't have to
read my posts! :-)
"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

There used to be a product called, I think, "Damp Start" wich you sprayed
into the air intake for situations like this. It seemed - from the
smell -
to be a highly combustable product - so it probbly got banned under some
regulation.

--
Please note new email address:

Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Thanks,
Stephen.


If you have a gas blowtorch try giving it a whiff of gas. Just position the
blowtorch so that the gas is directed at the air filter and turn it on. Then
try the usual starting procedure. It should start and run just on the gas
for long enough to pull the fuel through if there are no other issues.

Mike

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen
wrote:

Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Along with all the other good replies, I normally do the following:

Spray a bit of EasyStart into the inlet (if possible, remove the plug,
spray in and replace plug if not) and see if it tries to fire up. If
it does you know you have compression and ignition.

Then I'd pull the fuel pipe from the carb (if accessible) and with the
fuel tap turned on, see if any fuel comes out. If it does then you
might have to remove the carb float bowl / carb and clean it out. If
it doesn't you may have a faulty tap, blocked filter or pipe. Whilst
you may not get full performance with old fuel, as mentioned elsewhere
I don't think it would stop a working machine (of the basic type) from
running. [1]

I have used the above recently to start two otherwise unstartable
machines. One was seized rings (2/ with no compression so wouldn't
start with the EasyStart test) and the other was a 4/ mower with
grunge in the tank / carb.

I have a 3KW 4/ (Honda powered) genny that would randomly start / run
and that turned out to be a faulty coil.

Cheers, T i m

[1] I had an Indian built Royal Enfield Bullet 350 that had been left
untouched for about 3 years. The petrol smelled more like paraffin but
it did start and run (with a completely dry battery) with only a
couple of kicks, once I had cleared the float jet.

On 08/10/2015 11:04, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen
wrote:

Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Thanks,
Stephen.

You occasionally see suggestions that fuel left to stand for long
periods loses its ability to fire up (not sure whether that applies to
petrol alone, or two-stroke mix, or both). It sometimes happens with
garden machinery that's been left in a shed over winter, and then
won't start in the spring. The explanation offered is that volatile
components evaporate, resulting in greater difficulty in starting.
I've never been very convinced by the explanation, but the fact of
poor starting behaviour using fuel that's stood around, remains.

I don't see anything wrong with that explanation. Petrol is a mix of
hydrocarbons with different volatilities.

I'd drain out the old fuel, use some freshly made-up mixture and also
flush the fuel line with it, clean the plug outside and in, bring the
genny into a warmish place to dry out any condensation or damp that
might have built up in the ignition system over time, and try again.


+1

I would also remove the float chamber from the carburettor and clean it
out (it may or may not be easier to remove the carburettor first). What
happens in 2 strokes is that the petrol in the carb evaporates, leaving
the two stroke oil behind as a sticky residue. As someone else
suggested, may be worth cleaning the main jet too.

Check you-tube if you have never stripped a carb before, they are quite
simple but when you remove the float, the spindle and the needle valve
will drop out and disappear if you do it the wrong way.

My other favourite technique with recalcitrant engines is to warm up the
carb with a hot air gun or a gas torch. Try not to melt the fuel pipe,
but it is safe to get them quite warm to the touch (they get warm by
conduction from the cylinder barrel in operation). Also OK to heat up
the plug (removed) in an oven or with a gas torch. You can make this too
hot to touch without gloves.

On 08/10/2015 15:02, Muddymike wrote:
Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Thanks,
Stephen.


If you have a gas blowtorch try giving it a whiff of gas. Just position
the blowtorch so that the gas is directed at the air filter and turn it
on. Then try the usual starting procedure. It should start and run just
on the gas for long enough to pull the fuel through if there are no
other issues.

Mike


Never tried that, good idea!

Used to use easystart (I think this used to be ether with a butane
propellant) but that seems to be less readily available these days.

On 08/10/2015 15:53, T i m wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 09:59:12 +0100, Stephen
wrote:

Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

Along with all the other good replies, I normally do the following:

Spray a bit of EasyStart into the inlet (if possible, remove the plug,
spray in and replace plug if not) and see if it tries to fire up. If
it does you know you have compression and ignition.

Then I'd pull the fuel pipe from the carb (if accessible) and with the
fuel tap turned on, see if any fuel comes out. If it does then you
might have to remove the carb float bowl / carb and clean it out. If
it doesn't you may have a faulty tap, blocked filter or pipe. Whilst
you may not get full performance with old fuel, as mentioned elsewhere
I don't think it would stop a working machine (of the basic type) from
running. [1]

I have used the above recently to start two otherwise unstartable
machines. One was seized rings (2/ with no compression so wouldn't
start with the EasyStart test) and the other was a 4/ mower with
grunge in the tank / carb.

I have a 3KW 4/ (Honda powered) genny that would randomly start / run
and that turned out to be a faulty coil.

Cheers, T i m

[1] I had an Indian built Royal Enfield Bullet 350 that had been left
untouched for about 3 years. The petrol smelled more like paraffin but
it did start and run (with a completely dry battery) with only a
couple of kicks, once I had cleared the float jet.


I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?
It was actually given to me but have never had to use ....but maybe one day.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:39:17 +0100, ss wrote:

snip

I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?

Considering what you have said, I'd say 'yes, probably'.

It was actually given to me but have never had to use ....but maybe one day.

I have a couple for the exact same reason. ;-)

I generally run anything that I'm not likely to use for a while dry.
e.g. Turn the fuel off when it's running and let it run till it stops.
That means there is no / little fuel left in the float bowl (if it has
one) and it will be obvious when you use it next that the float has
stuck open by the petrol pouring out. A float stuck closed is less
obvious.

If you *know* you are going to lay a machine up for a long time then,
especially if it has a steel tank you might drain all the fuel out and
maybe swish some oil around the tank to coat it (if possible), to stop
it going rusty.

You can keep some fuel 'ready' but in a separate container then it's
easier to use it on something else and replace it with some fresh now
and again (I'll use it in the kitcar when the tank is nearly full or
about to fill up, even if it's a gallon of 2/). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

T i m wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:39:17 +0100, ss wrote:

snip

I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?

Considering what you have said, I'd say 'yes, probably'.

It was actually given to me but have never had to use ....but maybe one day.

I have a couple for the exact same reason. ;-)

I generally run anything that I'm not likely to use for a while dry.
e.g. Turn the fuel off when it's running and let it run till it stops.

The alternative approach that works with my lawnmower is to never turn the
fuel off so that the float chamber never dries out (assuming fuel left in
the tank).

As my lawnmower doesn't have a fuel tap this is quite easy to remember. ;-)
Always starts on about the third pull every spring.

Tim

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:06:29 +0100, charles
wrote:



Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

There used to be a product called, I think, "Damp Start" wich you sprayed
into the air intake for situations like this. It seemed - from the smell -
to be a highly combustable product - so it probbly got banned under some
regulation.

Damp start is a spray which applies a plastic like film coating to
what it is sprayed at. was useful in the days of weak ignition
systems to keep damp from causing HV leakage from grotty distributor
caps and plug leads whose insulation was breaking down or another
layer of insulation where engines got splashed regularly.

Spraying it into an air intake won't do anything after it much good.

Easy start is probably what you mean, One time I believe it was
mainly Ether but improper use by druggies probably has seen the
composition changed.
Some used to say an engine got addicted to it and would not start
without. Hand cranking with a handle needed extra care as premature
ignition causing a kick back was more likely when using it.

G.Harman

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:36:57 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:


If you're down-under, then:

http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Aer...Engine_Starter

would be the product to use...

(however if I were the OP, yes, I'd dump the pre-mixed stuff and fill it with fresh)

Gordon

Was available in the UK for a shortime but seems to have waned quickly
once most people who wanted a can for the novelty name had got one.
Maybe that Rod Speed feller could send some over.

G.Harman

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 19:45:20 +0000 (UTC), Tim+
wrote:

T i m wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:39:17 +0100, ss wrote:

snip

I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?

Considering what you have said, I'd say 'yes, probably'.

It was actually given to me but have never had to use ....but maybe one day.

I have a couple for the exact same reason. ;-)

I generally run anything that I'm not likely to use for a while dry.
e.g. Turn the fuel off when it's running and let it run till it stops.

The alternative approach that works with my lawnmower is to never turn the
fuel off so that the float chamber never dries out (assuming fuel left in
the tank).

Does it actually have a real carb / float / chamber? If so I think
what happens is the float jet sticks closed (as it's forced closed by
the fuel etc) and then the fuel evaporates out of the carb, leaving
the residue to block stuff. If your carb doesn't stick closed and as
there is still fuel in the tank you don't get that same residue issue
as it always remains dissolved shrug?

As my lawnmower doesn't have a fuel tap this is quite easy to remember. ;-)

Ah. ;-)

Always starts on about the third pull every spring.

I can't think of the last time any of my stuff hasn't started, even
after being unused for some time, it's other peoples stuff I generally
have to deal with.

But then I think some people have more 'mechanical sympathy / empathy'
than others. ;-)

I was helping a mate with a small 2/ off road motorbike the other day.
It had been played with by someone and the first thing he found was
the piston had been fitted backwards (affecting the transfer port
timing etc). After sorting that it would still fire up with a bit of
EasyStart but still not continue to run. I pulled the fuel pipe off
the carb and found a good fuel flow to the carb and slackening the
float bowl drain screw also showed fuel there so it was more likely a
jet. He took the carb off, gave it all a clean through (without
finding anything particular), put it back together and it started ...
what was then apparent is someone had wound the throttle stop /
tickover up to summat pretty high! However, whist we were trying to
start it I'd put my hand over the carb inlet and not felt much in the
way of inlet vacuum. It was after he took the carb of when trying to
get it to run properly he found a chunk missing from the carb to inlet
manifold heat block. ;-(

I really love when I buy a second hand machine and find it is just
lacking some TLC, rather than being fiddled with by someone who
doesn't know what they are doing.

Cheers, T i m

On 09/10/2015 03:03, F Murtz wrote:

We have got start ya ******* and you have sticks like **** (I know they
are different products)

Trying to use the latter instead of the former could lead to some fairly
big bills :-)

wrote:
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 09:36:57 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
wrote:


If you're down-under, then:

http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Aer...Engine_Starter

would be the product to use...

(however if I were the OP, yes, I'd dump the pre-mixed stuff and fill it with fresh)

Gordon

Was available in the UK for a shortime but seems to have waned quickly
once most people who wanted a can for the novelty name had got one.
Maybe that Rod Speed feller could send some over.

G.Harman


We have got start ya ******* and you have sticks like **** (I know they
are different products)

newshound wrote:

Used to use easystart (I think this used to be ether with a butane
propellant) but that seems to be less readily available these days.

Still available ...

http://www.halfords.com/motoring/engine-oils-fluids/fuel-oil-additives/bradex-easy-start-300ml

On Thursday, 8 October 2015 10:05:56 UTC+1, charles wrote:
In article ,
Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I bought one of these on a whim when it was in a sale a couple of
years ago. I've never used it properly but on the advice of people
here, I would run it with a load every now and again to make sure it
was working. What with moving house etc. it has not been used in a
long time. I found it whilst tidying the garage the other day and
cannot start it.

Is there anything I can try to resurrect it? The oil/petrol mix has
been in there a while, should I pour that out and start again?

There used to be a product called, I think, "Damp Start" wich you sprayed
into the air intake for situations like this. It seemed - from the smell -
to be a highly combustable product - so it probbly got banned under some
regulation.


Or "Bradex Easy Start".
They all contain ether to help starting.
If you have a propane blowlamp, you can direct gas down the air intake to help starting.

Yes fresh petrol is best. There are volatiles in it to help starting that disappear if it is stored.

Also good to shut the machine down by turning off the petrol.
The petrol in the hot carburetor loses the volatiles more quickly than in the tank.

Generally speaking, the only other thing that goes wrong in 2T engines is the spark plug.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 14:55:33 +0100, "Brian-Gaff"
wrote:

I'm assuming its got one of those shoulder dislocating pull chord has it?

Yes.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 10:06:29 +0100, charles
wrote:


There used to be a product called, I think, "Damp Start" wich you sprayed
into the air intake for situations like this. It seemed - from the smell -
to be a highly combustable product - so it probbly got banned under some
regulation.

It looks like Halfords sell "easy start" so I'll give that ago, along
with the other suggestions, thanks.

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 00:25:34 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:



Or "Bradex Easy Start".

Thanks. I have found this on the Halfords web site. Some google
results refer to it as Holts easy start but the photos are identical,
so either Bradex owns Holts or vice versa.

They all contain ether to help starting.
If you have a propane blowlamp, you can direct gas down the air intake to help starting.

I hadn't thought of that. That's a good idea and would save me a trip
to Halfords.

Yes fresh petrol is best. There are volatiles in it to help starting that disappear if it is stored.

Like Chris said, I have heard this but how does it evaporate from a
metal tank? Is it that the seal is not very good?

Also good to shut the machine down by turning off the petrol.

Yes, I always do this.

Thanks,
Stephen.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:31:48 +0100, newshound
wrote:

I would also remove the float chamber from the carburettor and clean it
out (it may or may not be easier to remove the carburettor first). What
happens in 2 strokes is that the petrol in the carb evaporates, leaving
the two stroke oil behind as a sticky residue. As someone else
suggested, may be worth cleaning the main jet too.

Check you-tube if you have never stripped a carb before, they are quite
simple but when you remove the float, the spindle and the needle valve
will drop out and disappear if you do it the wrong way.

My other favourite technique with recalcitrant engines is to warm up the
carb with a hot air gun or a gas torch. Try not to melt the fuel pipe,
but it is safe to get them quite warm to the touch (they get warm by
conduction from the cylinder barrel in operation). Also OK to heat up
the plug (removed) in an oven or with a gas torch. You can make this too
hot to touch without gloves.

It is this type of generator:
https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/p...generator-g720

(not meant as an endorsement of machinemart because we all know of
their poor customer service!)

I don't know how easy it will be to take apart, being a cheap thing,
I'm not sure if they are meant to be stripped and serviced or whether
they are seen as disposable, but I'll certainly have a go and might
learn something in the process.

Thanks,
Stephen.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:39:17 +0100, ss wrote:

I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:08:34 +0100, Stephen
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:39:17 +0100, ss wrote:

I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

As long as it's clean I can't see any reason why you wouldn't use it
in a petrol car, especially an older one with no fancy cat or
electronics. I'd happily use it in the kit car on top of a (at least)
half full tank. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:08:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:44:15 +0100, T i m wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

As long as it's clean I can't see any reason why you wouldn't use it in
a petrol car, especially an older one with no fancy cat or electronics.
I'd happily use it in the kit car on top of a (at least)
half full tank. ;-)

Given that we're talking mostly about two-smokes, it can be taken as read
that it isn't "clean". I did once tip about three or four litres of
slightly over-oily and long-since premixed two-smoke into the near-full
25l tank of one of the 2cvs. Never again. It pinked like an absolute
bugger.

"Adrian" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:08:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.

Molotov cocktail?

Barbecue lighting aid?

PS: I am most definitely JOKING...

Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:08:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.


You jest surely? Can't see the council tip wanting their waste oil tank
being turned into a potential bomb.

Actually, I have no idea about the actual risks but this *seems* like a
Very Bad Idea to me.

Tim

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:56:20 +0100, NY wrote:

Barbecue lighting aid?

PS: I am most definitely JOKING...

My old next-door neighbour begged to disagree on that. The windows
rattled every time he had a bonfire.

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:04:21 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.

You jest surely? Can't see the council tip wanting their waste oil tank
being turned into a potential bomb.

How big is that tank? A litre or two of stale petrol in there is going to
make precisely bugger all difference.

I've taken old petrol down there before, and been told to pour it in
there.

Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:04:21 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.

You jest surely? Can't see the council tip wanting their waste oil tank
being turned into a potential bomb.

How big is that tank? A litre or two of stale petrol in there is going to
make precisely bugger all difference.

I've taken old petrol down there before, and been told to pour it in
there.


Hmm, I'm not sure that your average council tip employee is trained in
hazard assessment.

Tim

Clive George wrote:
On 09/10/2015 03:03, F Murtz wrote:

We have got start ya ******* and you have sticks like **** (I know they
are different products)

Trying to use the latter instead of the former could lead to some fairly
big bills :-)

I would like some of the glue but shipping too high.
I do have some spanners that cause merriment when I ask someone to pass
my f***ng spanner.

http://tinypic.com/r/1zxmydf/8

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:23:48 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.

You jest surely? Can't see the council tip wanting their waste oil
tank being turned into a potential bomb.

How big is that tank? A litre or two of stale petrol in there is going
to make precisely bugger all difference.

I've taken old petrol down there before, and been told to pour it in
there.

Hmm, I'm not sure that your average council tip employee is trained in
hazard assessment.

SEP.

On 09/10/2015 09:08, Stephen wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 19:39:17 +0100, ss wrote:

I have a cheapo that hasnt seen the light of day for over 5 years, would
it be best to empty of everything and store dry?

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?


Pour it into an old metal dish (baking tray?) and set fire to it in the
garden - a complete non-event provided obvious precautions are taken
.... an opportunity for natural selection to come into play ;-)

Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 09:23:48 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

What is the best and safest way to dispose of the old petrol?

Engine oil tank at your local tip.

You jest surely? Can't see the council tip wanting their waste oil
tank being turned into a potential bomb.

How big is that tank? A litre or two of stale petrol in there is going
to make precisely bugger all difference.

I've taken old petrol down there before, and been told to pour it in
there.

Hmm, I'm not sure that your average council tip employee is trained in
hazard assessment.

SEP.


Still think it's a bit irresponsible suggesting it as a valid disposal
method. I don't believe for one moment that the oil collection tanks are
designed to contain a highly volatile explosive liquid. The greatest
danger being that no one would *expect* them to have petrol vapour in them.

Tim