On Sunday, 23 August 2015 18:27:25 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Capitol wrote:
No he's saying that B & Q pay low wages and should be made to pay more
so that his ilk can do as little as possible and still buy a new car
every year.

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days? I'd
guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is for
youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.


NT

On 24/08/15 07:59, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:

I saw a story the other day that
Cote don't pass ANY of their service charge onto waiting staff.

I'd never heard of Cote, but their wibble says ...

"We can confirm that, contrary to recent press reports, Côte distributes
the service charge income to the restaurant level employees at which the
service charge was collected."



cynical Yeah - probably since the press got the story./cynical

On Monday, 24 August 2015 07:53:12 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
Then you get the un-unionised retail sector and here's what you get:
Huge staff turnover;
Cheap(er) EU shop staff

At least they're paid.

Some shops rely on unpaid staff on Jobcentre schemes.

Owain

In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

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On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...


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On 24/08/2015 10:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...



You can rent a two bedroom flat for that.

You can buy a house for less than the rent ATM.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

They are free to stay at home if they don’t like the cost of the rent.

On 24/08/15 11:07, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/08/2015 10:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum
wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...



You can rent a two bedroom flat for that.

In a derelict street in a ghost town..



You can buy a house for less than the rent ATM.


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On 24/08/2015 11:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 11:07, dennis@home wrote:
On 24/08/2015 10:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum
wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue
about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...



You can rent a two bedroom flat for that.

In a derelict street in a ghost town..

In a new build!
You just live somewhere that the planning department hasn't been hit
with a big enough stick.

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

In a derelict street in a ghost town..

Like, ooh, Tipton maybe.

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On Saturday, 22 August 2015 22:08:50 UTC+1, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Saturday, 22 August 2015 08:29:48 UTC+1, harry wrote:
Was in B&Q the other day. (Found what I wanted elsewhere at half the price of B&Q) Ripoff merchants.

But I noticed there was no-one in there young. They were all old gits.
Does no-one young do any DIY these days?
(Is there anyone young on this newsgroup come to that?)

Define 'young'? I'm under 40 and do DIY. You would unlikely find me in B&Q though. Perhaps it is only the over-40s that have not realised there are better/cheaper places to purchase from? ;-)

what if your B&Q is only 500 metres away and you just need a 12kg bag of plaster, get it delievered next day from amazon even if it is cheaper.

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
They are free to stay at home if they don’t like

If only you'd take your own advice.

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On Sunday, 23 August 2015 11:20:53 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Capitol wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In articleK7WdnR7LhfWY7kXInZ2dnUU78fednZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk,
wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
A while back I was talking to the manager of the Exmouth branch. She
told me that they do not employ anyone under 60. Far more reliable in
their experience.

And likely cheaper. Working for beer money.


Ah, I see, your usual antipathy for people who actually are prepared to
work.

And your usual knack of being unable to see the point.

BTW, why aren't you at work? Last we heard you worked 24/7. Or was that
just another lie?


Some of us worked hard enough to be able to retire and only work at DIY.

And those tend to be the sort that B&Q employ. Retired on a pension and
simply want something to occupy their time. Nothing wrong with that of
course, but it does allow them to pay wages a younger person couldn't live
on.

and they won't be expecting any sort of carreer move, in fact they'll probbely die from old age before they are due a pay rise too.

On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

a fair starting point fro London and doesn't always include bills.

On 24/08/15 12:01, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

In a derelict street in a ghost town..

Like, ooh, Tipton maybe.

yeah pretty much:-)

You can JUST get a 1 bed flat for slightly less than that in tipton.



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yeah pretty much:-)

You can JUST get a 1 bed flat for slightly less than that in tipton.

Would that be with one satellite dish or two?

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On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

Only the apprentice who does no other paid income & doesn't take a smaller room would struggle. The others have disposable incomes of £142.50, £87..50, £34.10 per week. Difficult my ass.


NT

In article ,
wrote:
Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

You expect decent cooking facilities included with a cheap small room?

You need to get out more.

You remind me of the many MPs etc who say it's easy to live on the dole or
minimum wage. Until being asked to show this. Then fail miserably.

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On Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46:38 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50. you'd be lucky to get a cup of coffee for that.



Only the apprentice who does no other paid income & doesn't take a smaller room would struggle. The others have disposable incomes of £142.50, £87.50, £34.10 per week. Difficult my ass.

if you actaully want to live legally it'll cost you much more with transport costs, elcec, gas, TV licences and mobile costs and they'd need a mobile so you can phone them.

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 12:41:14 PM UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:

what if your B&Q is only 500 metres away and you just need a 12kg bag of plaster, get it delievered next day from amazon even if it is cheaper.

That's quite a hypothetical situation but in such unplanned cases I'd probably find myself in Wickes. It might be a bad example however as whilst I said I DIY I should have caveated that with '...unless it's plastering' as it is probably the one thing I don't do!

For anything else though I tend to plan ahead, get quotes and buy from builder's metchants, saw mills etc. Even for one-off unplanned purchases I usually find that SF and TS have what I need.

I've got nothing against B&Q per se; I just don't think I am in their target market given that I plan projects in advance and don't mind shopping around to get the best deal. Indeed I am quite happy to do this - I get a good feeling for having stretched my pound further, and I inariably find that the quality of the product is considerably better where such variations can exist e.g. timber in particular.

In article ,
says...

Tim Watts wrote:

I saw a story the other day that
Cote don't pass ANY of their service charge onto waiting staff.

I'd never heard of Cote, but their wibble says ...

"We can confirm that, contrary to recent press reports, Côte distributes
the service charge income to the restaurant level employees at which the
service charge was collected."

"less a modest handling charge to cover the administrations costs
involved" (probably)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
They are free to stay at home if they don't like

If only you'd take your own advice.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

"Rod Speed" wrote in message ...



"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
They are free to stay at home if they don't like

If only you'd take your own advice.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Only because you've cornered the bull**** market.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

You expect decent cooking facilities included with a cheap small room?

Doesn't have to be decent with that sort of
individual who is free to use a microwave etc.

You need to get out more.

You need to get a ****ing clue, as always.

You remind me of the many MPs etc who say it's easy to live on the dole
or minimum wage. Until being asked to show this. Then fail miserably.

Its completely trivial for anyone still living at home.

"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46:38 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these
days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it
is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum
wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue
about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50.

You don't.

you'd be lucky to get a cup of coffee for that.

Only if you are stupid enough to pay for it to be made for you.

Only the apprentice who does no other paid income & doesn't
take a smaller room would struggle. The others have disposable
incomes of £142.50, £87.50, £34.10 per week. Difficult my ass.

if you actaully want to live legally it'll cost you much
more with transport costs, elcec, gas, TV licences

Even sillier than you usually manage.

and mobile costs and they'd need a mobile so you can phone them.

Costs peanuts to do very cheaply.

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
You remind me of the many MPs etc who say it's easy to live on the dole
or minimum wage. Until being asked to show this. Then fail miserably.

Its completely trivial for anyone still living at home.

Right. So whatever happened to 'get on your bike' to look for work?

Those on minimum wages are expected to live with their parents for free
and be close enough to walk to work?

You're on a different planet as usual Wodney.

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50.

You don't.

So you live in the UK and know what food costs here? When did you move?
How on earth did they let the likes of you in?

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On Monday, 24 August 2015 17:01:50 UTC+1, Mathew Newton wrote:
On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 12:41:14 PM UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:

what if your B&Q is only 500 metres away and you just need a 12kg bag of plaster, get it delievered next day from amazon even if it is cheaper.

That's quite a hypothetical situation.

Not for me as I live less than 500M from a Be here and Queue.

but in such unplanned cases I'd probably find myself in Wickes. It might be a bad example however as whilst I said I DIY I should have caveated that with '...unless it's plastering' as it is probably the one thing I don't do!

It's like I was explain tt a student sure he can buy a USB to RS232 converter from aliexpress for 97p, but it's 30-60 days delivery your course finishes on 1st september, I suggest RS at around £12.


For anything else though I tend to plan ahead, get quotes and buy from builder's metchants, saw mills etc. Even for one-off unplanned purchases I usually find that SF and TS have what I need.

If I had either of those close by I might compare prices a little more.


I've got nothing against B&Q per se; I just don't think I am in their target market given that I plan projects in advance and don't mind shopping around to get the best deal.

I don't either and I always check, even argos too.


Indeed I am quite happy to do this - I get a good feeling for having stretched my pound further, and I inariably find that the quality of the product is considerably better where such variations can exist e.g. timber in particular.

I guess so, I rememebr helping my dad get timber from a tiber yard, we used a pram and had to walk most of teh way in the road, took ages of so it seemed.
Well 20mins and I'm not sure how the traffic would cope with us nowadays with the bus lanes and cycle route that are on the roads now.

On Monday, 24 August 2015 19:56:21 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ...



"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
They are free to stay at home if they don't like

If only you'd take your own advice.

You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

Only because you've cornered the bull**** market.

he created it ;-)

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

You remind me of the many MPs etc who say it's easy to live on the dole
or minimum wage. Until being asked to show this. Then fail miserably.

Its completely trivial for anyone still living at home.

Right. So whatever happened to 'get on your bike' to look for work?

Nothing, you can still do that when living at home.

Those on minimum wages are expected to live with their
parents for free and be close enough to walk to work?

Nope, just have enough of a clue to ride a bike that they can get
for peanuts at boot sale etc if its further than they can walk, stupid.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50.

You don't.

So you live in the UK and know what food costs here?

Don't have to 'live' there to see what food costs there, ****wit.

Even someone as stupid as you can check stuff like food prices
on the other side of the world if someone was actually stupid
enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane, ****wit.

In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Right. So whatever happened to 'get on your bike' to look for work?

Nothing, you can still do that when living at home.

Sorry - forgot you were too stupid to understand the quote.

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
So you live in the UK and know what food costs here?

Don't have to 'live' there to see what food costs there, ****wit.

OK, then. The standard question asked of politicians, etc.

How much does a pint of milk cost?

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In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
So you live in the UK and know what food costs here?

Don't have to 'live' there to see what food costs there, ****wit.

OK, then. The standard question asked of politicians, etc.

How much does a pint of milk cost?

that is, of course, a trick question. Milk is most commonly sold in litre
units. The cost does very much depend on where you buy it. Lat week,
becasue I was passing, I bought a 1 litre container of milk - 99p. At most
supermarkets that the price of 2 litres.

In article ,
Charles Hope wrote:
In article ,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
So you live in the UK and know what food costs here?

Don't have to 'live' there to see what food costs there, ****wit.

OK, then. The standard question asked of politicians, etc.

How much does a pint of milk cost?

that is, of course, a trick question. Milk is most commonly sold in litre
units. The cost does very much depend on where you buy it. Last week,
because I was passing, I bought a 1 litre container of milk - 99p. At most
supermarkets that the price of 2 litres.

I missed out the bit that said I bought in the village shop.

On Monday, 24 August 2015 14:58:08 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:
Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

You expect decent cooking facilities included with a cheap small room?

a ring and an oven, yes.

You need to get out more.

You remind me of the many MPs etc who say it's easy to live on the dole or
minimum wage. Until being asked to show this. Then fail miserably.

I've lived on far less. I find it weird that so many people have no clue how to.


NT

On Monday, 24 August 2015 15:34:19 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46:38 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50. you'd be lucky to get a cup of coffee for that.



Only the apprentice who does no other paid income & doesn't take a smaller room would struggle. The others have disposable incomes of £142.50, £87.50, £34.10 per week. Difficult my ass.

if you actaully want to live legally it'll cost you much more with transport costs, elcec, gas, TV licences and mobile costs and they'd need a mobile so you can phone them.

Transport depends on the situation. Elec & gas is usually included in £100 a week rooms, but not always. TV & license are for disposable income, and no relevance to the cost of living. A mobile costs a tenner a month, a nonproblem for the above wage levels.


NT

On Monday, 24 August 2015 20:20:14 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46:38 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these
days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it
is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum
wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue
about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly.

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50.

You don't.

you'd be lucky to get a cup of coffee for that.

Only if you are stupid enough to pay for it to be made for you.

One of those rare cases where I agree with Rod. Why anyone would think paying someone else £2.50 to make them a coffee was a need I'll never know. Its barking mad.


NT

Only the apprentice who does no other paid income & doesn't
take a smaller room would struggle. The others have disposable
incomes of £142.50, £87.50, £34.10 per week. Difficult my ass.

if you actaully want to live legally it'll cost you much
more with transport costs, elcec, gas, TV licences

Even sillier than you usually manage.

In article , Tim Streater
wrote:
In article , Charles Hope
wrote:

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
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In article , Rod Speed
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So you live in the UK and know what food costs here?

Don't have to 'live' there to see what food costs there, ****wit.

OK, then. The standard question asked of politicians, etc.

How much does a pint of milk cost?

that is, of course, a trick question. Milk is most commonly sold in
litre units.

Mmmm no. We only buy milk in the 4-pint plastic bottles.

The ones in our fridge are 2 litres . It probably depends on thnlocal
distributor

On Tuesday, 25 August 2015 13:45:27 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 15:34:19 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46:38 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 24 August 2015 10:51:23 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/08/15 10:35, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
nt wrote:

My 'ilk'? Have you got any idea how much it costs to rent these days?
I'd guess the answer is no. You'll have no idea about how hard it is
for youngsters these days trying to get a start in life.

Its not hard, they just whine about how hard it is. Even on minimum wage
they get way above living costs. The problem is they have no clue about
budgeting and think they're celebrities and can live accordingly..

Another who has no idea what renting costs these days.

about £100 a week for a room in a house...

Yup, except for London. Less if you take a small room.

Minimum wage 2014:
21 and over 18 to 20 Under 18 Apprentice
£6.50 £5.13 £3.79 £2.73
x40 hrs = ...
£260, £205, £151.60 and £109.20

Food @ £2.50/day, which provides a varied healthy diet: £17.50

I think you need more than £2.50. you'd be lucky to get a cup of coffee for that.



Only the apprentice who does no other paid income & doesn't take a smaller room would struggle. The others have disposable incomes of £142.50, £87.50, £34.10 per week. Difficult my ass.

if you actaully want to live legally it'll cost you much more with transport costs, elcec, gas, TV licences and mobile costs and they'd need a mobile so you can phone them.

Transport depends on the situation. Elec & gas is usually included in £100 a week rooms,

usually but by no means always.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-9893478.html

If what you say in that it's not difficult to find such a place in London then how comes places like the above are on offer and people are willing and do pay that money for it. Also check out hostals, £10 or more per.



TV & license are for disposable income, and no relevance to the cost of living.

They are included in the cost of living.

A mobile costs a tenner a month, a nonproblem for the above wage levels.

In an ideal world yes but I've known people to be in these situations, and you've forgotten to include clothes and the cost of washing them.

This reminds me of the politition type that claims to be cycling to be green
then has a car driving behind to carry all his persnal pappers and evertthing else he needs to do his work.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4953922.stm

Regarding coffee, last week in sainsbury I pointed out to a member of staff that their canned coffee drinks was £1.40 each or 2 for £3. two days before they were two for £2 so I brought 4. The Following day there was no price on them, so I asked for them to he scanned as I was thinking of restocking. They are now £1.60 each or 2 for £2.50 he said. He asked me if I wanted them I said no they were 2 quid last week, I'll wait for them to come back down to 2 quid. So I let him put them back on the shelf.