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I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

I can't remember the measurements, I'm guessing the table must have
been at least 38 inches or so and expanded into a round 60" or more.

I loved the concept but wasn't about to spend that much on a table
especially rosewood due to climate here in the states.

I've been unable to find anyone here who has such a concept and when I
ask different furniture stores they say it is impossible that small
round tables are only built to expand into oval.
Has anyone ever seen one and if so where can I look?

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I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

I can't remember the measurements, I'm guessing the table must have
been at least 38 inches or so and expanded into a round 60" or more.

I loved the concept but wasn't about to spend that much on a table
especially rosewood due to climate here in the states.

I've been unable to find anyone here who has such a concept and when I
ask different furniture stores they say it is impossible that small
round tables are only built to expand into oval.
Has anyone ever seen one and if so where can I look?


How would that even be physically possible? I suppose you could have curved
sections that clamped on the outside somehow, like company boards on a
tavern table... but I can't see hidden leaves unless there was a lot of
them, and each was a small section of the curve, and they somehow overlapped
themselves underneath the apron. I would be very interested to see a design
if anyone comes up with it.


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sab wrote:
I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

I can't remember the measurements, I'm guessing the table must have
been at least 38 inches or so and expanded into a round 60" or more.

I loved the concept but wasn't about to spend that much on a table
especially rosewood due to climate here in the states.

I've been unable to find anyone here who has such a concept and when I
ask different furniture stores they say it is impossible that small
round tables are only built to expand into oval.
Has anyone ever seen one and if so where can I look?


Here's one
http://copenhagen.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/oicgi.exe/inet_add_to_cart?cust_no=guest-10509194&item=SKOV-DC06

It doesn't show the expansion but you might be able to find a store in your
area that has one.

Gary


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mark wrote:

of them, and each was a small section of the curve, and they somehow
overlapped
themselves underneath the apron. I would be very interested to see a
design if anyone comes up with it.


Me too. I can sort of imagine how it might be possible, but there would be
a lot of technical challenges to solve. It sounds like a fascinating
design.

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"GeeDubb" wrote in message
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sab wrote:
I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

(snip)

Here's one
http://copenhagen.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/oicgi.exe/inet_add_to_cart?cust_no=guest-10509194&item=SKOV-DC06

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Well, not quite. It expands to a "rounded triangular shape". Easy to see how
that could be done. You may have identified what the OP had seen on his
travels. But I haven't any idea how one could fashion a true round
expandable table.




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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 01:11:42 -0000, "gandalf"
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"GeeDubb" wrote in message
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sab wrote:
I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

(snip)

Here's one
http://copenhagen.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/oicgi.exe/inet_add_to_cart?cust_no=guest-10509194&item=SKOV-DC06

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Well, not quite. It expands to a "rounded triangular shape". Easy to see how
that could be done. You may have identified what the OP had seen on his
travels. But I haven't any idea how one could fashion a true round
expandable table.

I think we're all fixated on a totally circular table. I think
Gandalf is right - it's really a triangular table - approximately.
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http://home.att.net/~waterfront-wood...discussion.htm

Something like this maybe?
Keith


"sab" wrote in message
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I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

I can't remember the measurements, I'm guessing the table must have
been at least 38 inches or so and expanded into a round 60" or more.

I loved the concept but wasn't about to spend that much on a table
especially rosewood due to climate here in the states.

I've been unable to find anyone here who has such a concept and when I
ask different furniture stores they say it is impossible that small
round tables are only built to expand into oval.
Has anyone ever seen one and if so where can I look?



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gandalf wrote:

http://copenhagen.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/oicgi.exe/inet_add_to_cart?cust_no=guest-10509194&item=SKOV-DC06

Crikey! $2,000 for PARTICLE BOARD?!?!?!?!

his travels. But I haven't any idea how one could fashion a true round
expandable table.


I think I've about got it worked out, and I'm going to do a scale mockup.
Should I patent it?

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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 23:40:39 -0500, Silvan
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gandalf wrote:

http://copenhagen.dyndns.org/cgi-bin/oicgi.exe/inet_add_to_cart?cust_no=guest-10509194&item=SKOV-DC06

Crikey! $2,000 for PARTICLE BOARD?!?!?!?!

his travels. But I haven't any idea how one could fashion a true round
expandable table.


I think I've about got it worked out, and I'm going to do a scale mockup.
Should I patent it?


Only if you can get Tom to do your mockup..
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:44:05 -0800, "Keith"
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http://home.att.net/~waterfront-wood...discussion.htm

Something like this maybe?
Keith


I think that's as close as you're gonna get without lots of frosty
adult beverages or recreational drugs...
(just a guess, I'd never indulge in those things.. *cough*)

"sab" wrote in message
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I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

I can't remember the measurements, I'm guessing the table must have
been at least 38 inches or so and expanded into a round 60" or more.

I loved the concept but wasn't about to spend that much on a table
especially rosewood due to climate here in the states.

I've been unable to find anyone here who has such a concept and when I
ask different furniture stores they say it is impossible that small
round tables are only built to expand into oval.
Has anyone ever seen one and if so where can I look?





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mac davis wrote:

I think that's as close as you're gonna get without lots of frosty
adult beverages or recreational drugs...
(just a guess, I'd never indulge in those things.. *cough*)


No, it can be done, I think. I haven't tried it yet. I spent all night
cleaning the house. Up 'til 4:00 AM cleaning house. I'm so whipped. I
hope she appreciates this when she gets home from the hospital tomorrow.

I think I've figured out ways to use compressed air and dremel bits to make
the job easier too. Think this will work for justification to get a big
compressor?

I tell you, if I had to do this regularly, every single little piece of
random froofy crap on every single piece of furniture would go in the
trash, and we would have nothing but clear horizontal and vertical surfaces
devoid of all obstacles. What good is this **** anyway? She has a press
box full of 157.3 trillion little tiny dust collectors. Why?
WHYYYYYY???!!!

The worst part is I can't even hope this gets me laid. I really don't
expect to get laid for a least another week or two. I'm just doing it to
be nice and make her happy and stuff. I'm so, so whipped.

I'm not very good at being Mom either. I missed the Christmas parade, let
both of them get to school without their homework, didn't send them with
the home-baked cookies my wife had promised their teachers for their
respective Christmas parties, and I had no idea I was supposed to go over
to my daughter's school and help the teacher today. She sure stays busy
for someone who sits around doing nothing all day.

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On 16 Dec 2004 16:03:15 -0800, "sab" wrote:

I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.


This was a fairly common design in Georgian times. The top spilts into
triangles and slides radially outwards. Separate leaves are then
inserted into the gaps. There were usually three new leaves, sometimes
six or nine. Some of the larger tables could be expanded in steps,
with either three or six leaves added at a time.

The expanded shape isn't perfectly circular, but it's good enough for
playing King Arthur.

The drawback is that it works best on large tables. The central pillar
is the only support for the cantilevered leaves, so it needs to be
reasonably wide. In a small table this can leave you with little
legroom underneath. Better designs have a pillar with a wider top
and narrower support. Crude designs use a simple cylinder or prism.


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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 04:09:12 -0500, Silvan
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mac davis wrote:

I think that's as close as you're gonna get without lots of frosty
adult beverages or recreational drugs...
(just a guess, I'd never indulge in those things.. *cough*)


No, it can be done, I think. I haven't tried it yet. I spent all night
cleaning the house. Up 'til 4:00 AM cleaning house. I'm so whipped. I
hope she appreciates this when she gets home from the hospital tomorrow.

I think I've figured out ways to use compressed air and dremel bits to make
the job easier too. Think this will work for justification to get a big
compressor?

I tell you, if I had to do this regularly, every single little piece of
random froofy crap on every single piece of furniture would go in the
trash, and we would have nothing but clear horizontal and vertical surfaces
devoid of all obstacles. What good is this **** anyway? She has a press
box full of 157.3 trillion little tiny dust collectors. Why?
WHYYYYYY???!!!

The worst part is I can't even hope this gets me laid. I really don't
expect to get laid for a least another week or two. I'm just doing it to
be nice and make her happy and stuff. I'm so, so whipped.

I'm not very good at being Mom either. I missed the Christmas parade, let
both of them get to school without their homework, didn't send them with
the home-baked cookies my wife had promised their teachers for their
respective Christmas parties, and I had no idea I was supposed to go over
to my daughter's school and help the teacher today. She sure stays busy
for someone who sits around doing nothing all day.


I'm not willing to do more than laundry (dryer heats the garage) and
load the dishwasher until we get a DC in the house.. *g*

She will appreciate it, Silvan, but probably won't show it right
away..
She's been through a lot and making the transition from hospital to
home (and kids) is sort of a shock to the system all by itself..

Just try to be a buffer between her and the kids for a few days, and
she'll be back to normal in no time..
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Definately more complex than it needs to be. I believe in the K.I.S.S.
principle. The method that comes to mind involves leaving the smaller
diameter table just how it is, then your leaves form the outside ring of
the table when it's the larger diameter. I think the leaves would need
pins to lock them in place to the inner table, then some kind of bars
would pull out from the inner table to give the outer leaves additional
support.

Copyright and patent pending.

Shawn

Keith wrote:
http://home.att.net/~waterfront-wood...discussion.htm

Something like this maybe?
Keith


"sab" wrote in message
oups.com...

I saw a couple of years ago a beautiful rosewood ROUND dining table in
hong kong that had hidden leaves (3) in the middle base of the table
that allowed it to expand to this 10-12 person round dining table.

I can't remember the measurements, I'm guessing the table must have
been at least 38 inches or so and expanded into a round 60" or more.

I loved the concept but wasn't about to spend that much on a table
especially rosewood due to climate here in the states.

I've been unable to find anyone here who has such a concept and when I
ask different furniture stores they say it is impossible that small
round tables are only built to expand into oval.
Has anyone ever seen one and if so where can I look?




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mac davis wrote:

She's been through a lot and making the transition from hospital to
home (and kids) is sort of a shock to the system all by itself..

Just try to be a buffer between her and the kids for a few days, and
she'll be back to normal in no time..


Which STILL won't get me laid.

A DC for the house. I like that idea. Hafta super glue the little dust
collectors (oh, I mean figurines) to the box so they don't get sucked up,
but then you could have 4" ports at strategic locations. Maybe with
synchronized air jets to blast the dust off just prior to collection. If I
cover all this stuff with lace doilies, she'll let me build it. Know where
I can get lace doilies big enough to cover DC plumbing?

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Shawn wrote:

pins to lock them in place to the inner table, then some kind of bars
would pull out from the inner table to give the outer leaves additional
support.

Copyright and patent pending.


The race is on. Who will get rooked by a crooked patent attorney first?

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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:12:44 -0500, Silvan
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mac davis wrote:

She's been through a lot and making the transition from hospital to
home (and kids) is sort of a shock to the system all by itself..

Just try to be a buffer between her and the kids for a few days, and
she'll be back to normal in no time..


Which STILL won't get me laid.


I'm glad to have been born ambidextrous. (If you catch my meaning. If
you get my drift. Just roll up your sleeve and bend over. Do you want
regular or ethyl?)


A DC for the house. I like that idea. Hafta super glue the little dust
collectors (oh, I mean figurines) to the box so they don't get sucked up,
but then you could have 4" ports at strategic locations. Maybe with
synchronized air jets to blast the dust off just prior to collection. If I
cover all this stuff with lace doilies, she'll let me build it. Know where
I can get lace doilies big enough to cover DC plumbing?


Try your local Linens and Foofy Things store. They're sure to have
industrial-sized doilies.


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Which STILL won't get me laid.


I'm glad to have been born ambidextrous. (If you catch my meaning. If
you get my drift. Just roll up your sleeve and bend over. Do you want
regular or ethyl?)


No, actually, I'm not sure I catch your meaning, but I think I'm afraid now.

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Actually, I've seen the small-round-to-big-round kind of table on a TV
antique show. I can definitely remember that the mechanism was
something like the overlapping plates of the old style camera shutters.
I do recall it started round and ended up round but do NOT ask me to
explain the mechanics. If I were as clever as the Victorian engineers
I'd have died 125 years ago.
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:44:22 -0500, Silvan
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Which STILL won't get me laid.


I'm glad to have been born ambidextrous. (If you catch my meaning. If
you get my drift. Just roll up your sleeve and bend over. Do you want
regular or ethyl?)


No, actually, I'm not sure I catch your meaning, but I think I'm afraid now.


Oops, that came across different that I meant it to.
AFAIK, I'm still hetero.


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