In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Just because some addict claims something...

They'll say to a man that attending meetings
is essential to maintain their recovery.

Hardly surprising, the ones that don't believe
that don't bother to go to those, stupid.

So you don't want to hear from those in recovery.

Yep, what matter is how many of them never use
whatever they used to use, again. Sweet **** all.

Then you could never talk to anyone ever about recovery.

What matter is what can be established using rigorous
science, not what some ****wit addict claims.

Thought I'd put back in the bit you snipped.

********

Then you could never talk to anyone ever about recovery. Because in your
terms it is only that if they die without using again.
Thought even you might see the flaw in this?

********

Notice you have no answer to it, so no surprise there.

So I'm asking again for a link to this 'rigorous science' results you are
so certain about. Surely not too hard for something you are so passionate
about?

But I'll start you off with some hard figures:-

**********
According to AA's 2014 membership survey, 27% of members have been sober
less than one year, 24% have 1-5 years sober, 13% have 5-10 years, 14%
have 10-20 years, and 22% have more than 20 years sober.
********

Now AA have some 2 million members world wide, so about a half million
having long term sobriety at zero cost to the taxpayer may be derisory to
you, but others with some sense will applaud it.

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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 11 September 2015 11:07:45 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote


So you don't want to hear from those in recovery.

Yep, what matter is how many of them never use
whatever they used to use, again. Sweet **** all.

Is that because as you've said there aren't any?

I have in fact said more than once that there are
always some who decide to give up on what
they were addicted to and never use it again,
you pathetic excuse for a lying bull**** artist.

So why in teh very same post did you say.
"Yep, what matter is how many of them never use
whatever they used to use, again. Sweet **** all"


So first there's "sweet **** all" that give up then there's always some
that give up.

So which is it today ? and will it be the same in two hours time, do try
to remmeber your own point you're trying to make.

That is the problem with Wodney's technique of disagreeing with everyone.
He forgets who he's talking to.

No surprise he needs so many aliases.

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
Even a terminal drunken ****wit addict such as yourself
should be able to work out the difference between
ARENT ANY and SWEET **** ALL,

Perhaps you'd enlighten us all. Definition from an approved source only,
please.

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On Friday, 11 September 2015 11:44:19 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:

Even a terminal drunken ****wit addict such as yourself
should be able to work out the difference between
ARENT ANY and SWEET **** ALL, if someone was
actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog
and a white cane, and a dictionary.

only a total idiot would think Dave 'drunken'

On Friday, 11 September 2015 11:44:19 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:


Even a terminal drunken ****wit addict such as yourself
should be able to work out the difference between
ARENT ANY and SWEET **** ALL,

so what is this difference ?
What is 10 + SWEET **** ALL = to ?
What is 10 + ARENT ANY = to

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
Even a terminal drunken ****wit addict such as yourself
should be able to work out the difference between
ARENT ANY and SWEET **** ALL,

so what is this difference ?
What is 10 + SWEET **** ALL = to ?
What is 10 + ARENT ANY = to

You should know by now he never answers questions when he's wrong. Which
does make you wonder why he posts so much.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Just because some addict claims something...

They'll say to a man that attending meetings
is essential to maintain their recovery.

Hardly surprising, the ones that don't believe
that don't bother to go to those, stupid.

So you don't want to hear from those in recovery.

Yep, what matter is how many of them never use
whatever they used to use, again. Sweet **** all.

Then you could never talk to anyone ever about recovery.

What matters is what can be established using rigorous
science, not what some ****wit addict claims.

Thought I'd put back in the bit you snipped.

I snipped it because it was mindless silly **** that proves
that you wouldn’t know what rigorous science was if it
bit you on your union bludger lard addict arse.

********

Then you could never talk to anyone ever about recovery.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Because in your terms it is only that
if they die without using again.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Thought even you might see the flaw in this?

There is no flaw, just you lying thru your teeth,
as you always do when you have got done like
a ****ing dinner, as you always are.

********

Notice you have no answer to it,

Nothing to answer.

So I'm asking again for a link to this 'rigorous science'
results you are so certain about. Surely not too hard
for something you are so passionate about?

We all swooned at the link you provided
to what you are clearly so passionate about.

But I'll start you off with some hard figures:-

**********
According to AA's 2014 membership survey,

The technical term for that is 'completely useless self reporting'

27% of members have been sober less than one year,
24% have 1-5 years sober, 13% have 5-10 years, 14%
have 10-20 years, and 22% have more than 20 years sober.

Pity there is no definition of what constitutes sober,
and no testing to see if they are lying at all.

********

Now AA have some 2 million members world wide,
so about a half million having long term sobriety

You have absolutely no idea how many lied about that.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Even a terminal drunken ****wit addict such as
yourself should be able to work out the difference
between ARENT ANY and SWEET **** ALL,

Perhaps you'd enlighten us all.

Just how any of you are there between those ears ?

Definition from an approved source only, please.

No such animal, ****wit.

On Friday, 11 September 2015 20:36:55 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Just because some addict claims something...

They'll say to a man that attending meetings
is essential to maintain their recovery.

Hardly surprising, the ones that don't believe
that don't bother to go to those, stupid.

So you don't want to hear from those in recovery.

Yep, what matter is how many of them never use
whatever they used to use, again. Sweet **** all.

Then you could never talk to anyone ever about recovery.

What matters is what can be established using rigorous
science, not what some ****wit addict claims.

Thought I'd put back in the bit you snipped.

I snipped it because

because you're really dumb and couldn't reply.





Thought even you might see the flaw in this?

There is no flaw, just you lying thru your teeth,

then prove it.




According to AA's 2014 membership survey,

The technical term for that is 'completely useless self reporting'
Where as yuor techincal rproting is lying yuor way out of a paper bag.


27% of members have been sober less than one year,
24% have 1-5 years sober, 13% have 5-10 years, 14%
have 10-20 years, and 22% have more than 20 years sober.

Pity there is no definition of what constitutes sober,

Pity you have the brain to test you theory

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=so...e-GMjbU-3llpAC

and no testing to see if they are lying at all.

you can use chemical testing like they do in sport.
You've always claimed you can tell when someone is completely blotto,
what do you call some one thast isn't blotto then ?



Now AA have some 2 million members world wide,
so about a half million having long term sobriety

You have absolutely no idea how many lied about that.

Niether have you, so it could be zero.