Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On 01/03/15 14:11, Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?


+1 for SX

On 01/03/2015 14:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On 01/03/15 14:11, Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?


+1 for SX

I use Rawlplug UNO, which have a rim and tap them through the plaster
with a punch.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 01/03/2015 14:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On 01/03/15 14:11, Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?


+1 for SX

I use Rawlplug UNO, which have a rim and tap them through the plaster
with a punch.


I tap them through using a screw, backwards. Perfect.

Bill

On 01/03/2015 14:56, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 01/03/2015 14:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On 01/03/15 14:11, Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into
the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?


+1 for SX

I use Rawlplug UNO, which have a rim and tap them through the plaster
with a punch.


I tap them through using a screw, backwards. Perfect.

Bill

Nice!

"stuart noble" wrote in message
...
On 01/03/2015 14:56, Bill Wright wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 01/03/2015 14:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On 01/03/15 14:11, Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs
I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into
the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?


+1 for SX

I use Rawlplug UNO, which have a rim and tap them through the plaster
with a punch.


I tap them through using a screw, backwards. Perfect.

Nice!

Yeah, that's the sort of thing I read here for.

On Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:34:47 UTC, The Medway Handyman wrote:

I use Rawlplug UNO, which have a rim and tap them through the plaster
with a punch.

I love the Unos - does anyone sell the yellow ones on their own?

/I love the Unos - does anyone sell the yellow ones on their own? /q

The Range did last time I stocked up, all? 3 size/colours sold separately.

Jim K

On 01/03/2015 14:56, Bill Wright wrote:

I tap them through using a screw, backwards. Perfect.

I just put the screw in a few twists by hand then tap it.
If I had to go really deep to get some firm stuff then I tap 1st plug in
all the way until it bottoms out using above method then tap a 2nd plug
into the remainder of the hole.
Make sure you "unscrew" the screw (check it's loose) when knocking in
the first plug or it can expand prematurely before getting to the end of
the hole.
Snip off any excess with side cutters.
Now your long screw will expand the first rawl plug without and problem
or risk of it pulling out on tightening.
No need for fancy fixings just the cheap old red ones for most jobs.



Pete@
--
https://www.GymRatz.co.uk
Commercial and home gym equipment specialists UK.

Thanks for the comments. I've passed them all on. (But I think he,
like me, has a fair bit of plaster that wants to run and hide under the
floorboards as soon as it sees a hammer so tapping rimmed plugs through
it may not be the chosen option.)

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:11:44 UTC, Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?

--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

The *best* solution may be to purchase something specific. However I usually end up tweaking something genetic that I have. So, normal rawlplugs, just cut off the rim. If you want a "sheath" all the way up, a cheap frame fixing (e.g. from toolstation), trimmed to suit.
Simon.

In article ,
Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?

Victorian plaster is usually so soft you're not going to want to fix to it
anyway. So make the correct sized hole into the brick, then tap a flanged
plug in so it stops at the brick.

--
*Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

sm_jamieson wrote:
The *best* solution may be to purchase something specific. However I
usually end up tweaking something genetic that I have. So, normal
rawlplugs, just cut off the rim. If you want a "sheath" all the way
up, a cheap frame fixing (e.g. from toolstation), trimmed to suit.
Simon.

Thanks. I see the merits of that if it's just the odd job - though I'm
put off by my incompetence which means I've all too often nicked a
finger doing it with whatever wrong tool was at hand
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 4:24:08 PM UTC, Robin wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
The *best* solution may be to purchase something specific. However I
usually end up tweaking something genetic that I have. So, normal
rawlplugs, just cut off the rim. If you want a "sheath" all the way
up, a cheap frame fixing (e.g. from toolstation), trimmed to suit.
Simon.

Thanks. I see the merits of that if it's just the odd job - though I'm
put off by my incompetence which means I've all too often nicked a
finger doing it with whatever wrong tool was at hand
--

Yes, maybe you can get a special tool to do it ;-)
I find electrical side cutters do the job. And the trick with a stanley knife is to "wobble" the blade through the plastic rather than trying to "slice" it and risk the knife slicing you too. Or, hold the knife steady and pull the item past it.
Simon.

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 4:21:05 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?

Victorian plaster is usually so soft you're not going to want to fix to it
anyway. So make the correct sized hole into the brick, then tap a flanged
plug in so it stops at the brick.

To risk thread drift, but oh I hate the plaster dilemma. Should I get the old plaster skimmed and hope it stays on the wall, or rip it all off and start again? I have tried drilling holes and injecting PVA which sometimes helps.
Simon.

On 03/03/15 11:16, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 4:21:05 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Robin wrote:
Neighbour new to the joys of walls with an inch of Victorian plaster
before there's even a chance of finding brick asked me what wallplugs I
recommend. I told him I use Fischer SX rimless so they can set into the
brick (when you find it) but that I wouldn't want to recommend as such
them without asking my betters. So any recommendations please?

Victorian plaster is usually so soft you're not going to want to fix to it
anyway. So make the correct sized hole into the brick, then tap a flanged
plug in so it stops at the brick.

To risk thread drift, but oh I hate the plaster dilemma. Should I get the old plaster skimmed and hope it stays on the wall, or rip it all off and start again? I have tried drilling holes and injecting PVA which sometimes helps.
Simon.


I sounded all of mine out with a spanner wheeltapper style.

Knocked the loose patches off (usually the skim) then PVA'd it and
reskimmed.

Been fine for several years - still find the odd small hollow patch, but
they are extremely few in number and of no consequence.

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 03:12:25 -0800 (PST), sm_jamieson wrote:

On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 4:24:08 PM UTC, Robin wrote:
sm_jamieson wrote:
The *best* solution may be to purchase something specific. However I
usually end up tweaking something genetic that I have. So, normal
rawlplugs, just cut off the rim. If you want a "sheath" all the way
up, a cheap frame fixing (e.g. from toolstation), trimmed to suit.
Simon.

Thanks. I see the merits of that if it's just the odd job - though I'm
put off by my incompetence which means I've all too often nicked a
finger doing it with whatever wrong tool was at hand
--

Yes, maybe you can get a special tool to do it ;-)
I find electrical side cutters do the job. And the trick with a stanley knife is to "wobble" the blade through the plastic rather than trying to "slice" it and risk the knife slicing you too. Or, hold the knife steady and pull the item past it.
Simon.

I've several pairs of flush side cutters - all small except one - and
they're really good for plugs, cutting cable ties flat and flush etc.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway