I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI.
Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps can struggle to get this high and/or take a
very long time.

So there is the well rated Ring RAC900
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ring-Automot...ccessories/dp/
B000W08QZY
for £75.
This requires a direct connection to the battery via crocodile clips
(however I think it could be linked to the leisure batteries via an
intermediate connector).

Alternatively I could use an existing 12v pump for any emergency reflation
(or use a garage air line) and have a 240V air compressor at home to do
the heavy lifting.

Perhaps something like
http://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-dn...-portable-air-
compressor-240v/22374
or
http://www.screwfix.com/p/impax-vent...sor-230v/15316
which delivers 180Ltr/min against the Stanley 55Ltr/min.

Both in the same sort of price range although I would need to buy an
airline as well.

Or I could wait for Aldi/Lidl to have a compressor in stock.

Anyway, home 240V (which at a pinch could go on the road with me as most
camp sites have 240V hookup) or a dedicated 12V pump?

The 240V could possibly also be used for some small DIY tasks although I
suspect it is mainly aimed at blowing up car tyres and the like.

Cheers

Dave R

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On 10/01/2015 13:22, David wrote:
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI.
Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps can struggle to get this high and/or take a
very long time.

So there is the well rated Ring RAC900
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ring-Automot...ccessories/dp/
B000W08QZY
for £75.
This requires a direct connection to the battery via crocodile clips
(however I think it could be linked to the leisure batteries via an
intermediate connector).

Alternatively I could use an existing 12v pump for any emergency reflation
(or use a garage air line) and have a 240V air compressor at home to do
the heavy lifting.

Perhaps something like
http://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-dn...-portable-air-
compressor-240v/22374
or
http://www.screwfix.com/p/impax-vent...sor-230v/15316
which delivers 180Ltr/min against the Stanley 55Ltr/min.

Both in the same sort of price range although I would need to buy an
airline as well.

Or I could wait for Aldi/Lidl to have a compressor in stock.

Anyway, home 240V (which at a pinch could go on the road with me as most
camp sites have 240V hookup) or a dedicated 12V pump?

The 240V could possibly also be used for some small DIY tasks although I
suspect it is mainly aimed at blowing up car tyres and the like.

Cheers

Dave R

Compressors are very useful bits of kit. Apart from blowing up tyres,
you can run air tools fro them like nailers.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In article ,
David wrote:
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI. Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps can
struggle to get this high and/or take a very long time.

Of course they do - a fag lighter is restricted to 10 amps or 120 watts,
so the maximum size motor will be about 1/6th HP. You really need more
like 1 HP plus to avoid taking for ever. It's not a problem to make a
small compressor deliver the required pressure - just the time it takes to
deliver enough air.
Snag when you go to 1 HP (approx 750 watts) or more from 12v is the size
of the cable needed - especially if a longish length. You're talking 60
amps plus - so need pretty thick cables. More like jump leads.

Lidl recently did a 'suitcase' 1.1 kW compressor - very easy to carry and
store, which makes light work of pumping up car tyres. But is mains only.
Was something like 30 quid - so worth looking out for before the season
starts again.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:32:22 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van
tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI. Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps
can struggle to get this high and/or take a very long time.

Of course they do - a fag lighter is restricted to 10 amps or 120 watts,
so the maximum size motor will be about 1/6th HP. You really need more
like 1 HP plus to avoid taking for ever. It's not a problem to make a
small compressor deliver the required pressure - just the time it takes
to deliver enough air.
Snag when you go to 1 HP (approx 750 watts) or more from 12v is the size
of the cable needed - especially if a longish length. You're talking 60
amps plus - so need pretty thick cables. More like jump leads.

Lidl recently did a 'suitcase' 1.1 kW compressor - very easy to carry
and store, which makes light work of pumping up car tyres. But is mains
only. Was something like 30 quid - so worth looking out for before the
season starts again.

Thanks.

However for us the season never finishes.
Just come back from Cornwall and Devon.

So - recommendations for a 240V compressor around the £70 mark or under?

I have no plans to use it for more than tyre inflation but you never
know...

Cheers

Dave R


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On 10/01/2015 13:22, David wrote:
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI.
Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps can struggle to get this high and/or take a
very long time.

So there is the well rated Ring RAC900
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ring-Automot...ccessories/dp/
B000W08QZY
for £75.
This requires a direct connection to the battery via crocodile clips
(however I think it could be linked to the leisure batteries via an
intermediate connector).

Alternatively I could use an existing 12v pump for any emergency reflation
(or use a garage air line) and have a 240V air compressor at home to do
the heavy lifting.

Perhaps something like
http://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-dn...-portable-air-
compressor-240v/22374
or
http://www.screwfix.com/p/impax-vent...sor-230v/15316
which delivers 180Ltr/min against the Stanley 55Ltr/min.

Both in the same sort of price range although I would need to buy an
airline as well.

Or I could wait for Aldi/Lidl to have a compressor in stock.

Anyway, home 240V (which at a pinch could go on the road with me as most
camp sites have 240V hookup) or a dedicated 12V pump?

The 240V could possibly also be used for some small DIY tasks although I
suspect it is mainly aimed at blowing up car tyres and the like.

Cheers

Dave R


I've got a 12v compressor and a mains one - and there's no comparison.
The 12v one takes for ever, and the mains one is just like using an air
line at a garage.

A mains compressor is also very good for blasting air at stuff to clean
it. But don't expect to be able to use power tools with a small mains
portable jobbie.
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In article ,
Roger Mills wrote:
A mains compressor is also very good for blasting air at stuff to clean
it. But don't expect to be able to use power tools with a small mains
portable jobbie.

Or spray paint, of course.

I actually just bought the Lidl one for blasting dust off stuff in the
workshop. Haven't really room for a larger one. But it was also just fine
for spraying wax inside the old car's 'cavities' in short bursts. Very
pleased with it given the low cost.

--
*The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 10/01/15 15:31, David wrote:

So - recommendations for a 240V compressor around the £70 mark or under?

I have no plans to use it for more than tyre inflation but you never
know...

My Touran has a little electric pump (12V) supplied. It's fine, but at
around 3.1 bar it starts struggling. At 5 bar I think it would explode!

How about forgetting the electric and using a really decent stirrup pump?

On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 16:19:19 +0000, Roger Mills wrote:

A mains compressor is also very good for blasting air at stuff to clean
it. But don't expect to be able to use power tools with a small mains
portable jobbie.

I've got one of the 2.5hp/25 litre "small proper" compressors that the
Aldidl twins punt out occasionally for £60-70 or so - and it'll run an
air impact rattlegun quite happily.

On 10/01/2015 13:22, David wrote:
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI.
Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps can struggle to get this high and/or take a
very long time.

So there is the well rated Ring RAC900
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ring-Automot...ccessories/dp/
B000W08QZY
for £75.
This requires a direct connection to the battery via crocodile clips
(however I think it could be linked to the leisure batteries via an
intermediate connector).

Alternatively I could use an existing 12v pump for any emergency reflation
(or use a garage air line) and have a 240V air compressor at home to do
the heavy lifting.

Perhaps something like
http://www.screwfix.com/p/stanley-dn...-portable-air-
compressor-240v/22374
or
http://www.screwfix.com/p/impax-vent...sor-230v/15316
which delivers 180Ltr/min against the Stanley 55Ltr/min.

Both in the same sort of price range although I would need to buy an
airline as well.

Or I could wait for Aldi/Lidl to have a compressor in stock.

Anyway, home 240V (which at a pinch could go on the road with me as most
camp sites have 240V hookup) or a dedicated 12V pump?

The 240V could possibly also be used for some small DIY tasks although I
suspect it is mainly aimed at blowing up car tyres and the like.

Cheers

Dave R


Not sure if this link will work

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...p age_o01_s00

but it's the Vertex 85 litres per minute double head compressor which I
bought in March, and it is very good indeed (I have a Renault Master
van, just inflating one tyre to 65 psi by hand with a decent stirrup
pump is knackering). It draws about 20 amps max so needs to go straight
on a battery, not through a lighter socket. Currently showing out of stock.

This looks somewhat similar

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-M...item486ea881b2

A mains compressor is a nice toy to have, just about worth having for
car tyres but if you are planning to get air tools get something above
the entry level power and storage.

I actually just bought the Lidl one for blasting dust off stuff in the
workshop.
Having blasted the dust off, where does the dust end up?
I would think a dustpan/brush and/or vacuum cleaner might do better.
Nick.

In article ,
newshound writes

Not sure if this link will work

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...=true&ref_=oh_
aui_detailpage_o01_s00

but it's the Vertex 85 litres per minute double head compressor which I
bought in March, and it is very good indeed (I have a Renault Master
van, just inflating one tyre to 65 psi by hand with a decent stirrup
pump is knackering). It draws about 20 amps max so needs to go straight
on a battery, not through a lighter socket. Currently showing out of stock.

Looks good, allegedly still available here (Vertex VXPC-012):

http://www.apextrading.co.uk/default...eavy-duty.html


but the site has limited company details and no published terms, buyer
beware!

Tip, you can usually junk the question mark and following text on amazon
links to make them shorter or trim to:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/item_no

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fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

"David" wrote in message
...
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van tyres.
Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI.
Basic 12v cigar lighter pumps can struggle to get this high and/or take a
very long time.

Being a belt/braces sort of chap I would go for all three: Decent double
barrelled brass foot pump[1] and 12v thingy to work off fag lighter to keep
in vehicle. These should get you out of most situ's. If not, you need more
than a compressor. Space & funds permitting, equip yourself with a mains
voltage machine. A mains compressor can be a V useful machine.
HTH
Nick.
[1] Halfords 'used' to sell these. Mine now 20+yo.

In article ,
Nick wrote:
I actually just bought the Lidl one for blasting dust off stuff in the
workshop.
Having blasted the dust off, where does the dust end up?

Doesn't much matter.

I would think a dustpan/brush and/or vacuum cleaner might do better.

For sawdust, etc, yes. But for small stuff a blast of air is better. And
for drying things too.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Nick wrote

I actually just bought the Lidl one for
blasting dust off stuff in the workshop.

Having blasted the dust off, where does the dust end up?

Everywhere, that's why I do that outside.

I would think a dustpan/brush and/or vacuum cleaner might do better.

Nothing like as good at getting the dust off stuff.

In article , Nick
writes

Being a belt/braces sort of chap I would go for all three: Decent double
barrelled brass foot pump[1]

[1] Halfords 'used' to sell these. Mine now 20+yo.

I thought I had found one of these in my normally excellent motor
factor, he pulled the item off the shelf, the pic showed what I thought
was the biz, including a diecast valve connector but on opening the box
we found that it had been cost reduced to a plastic bodied valve
connector and stem with a thin sheetmetal wrap, the same kind that had
let me down (sheared off) in sub-zero temps on New Years Day the year
before. Huge disappointment.

I don't think you can get decent stuff in retail these days.

--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

In message , David
writes
I'm looking at a more robust compressor to blow up the camper van
tyres. Rears need to go up to 5 bar 72.5 PSI. Basic 12v cigar lighter
pumps can struggle to get this high and/or take a very long time.

My Aldi mains compressor has been great for this, although I just lent
it to a friend who has had trouble with the drain valve leaking. Aldi
here often have the accessory kits (including the tyre kit) in the
remainder area.

We have had to use 12volt units on the 3.5ton boat trailer tyres, and
they have been a disaster. I've now got 3 with burnt out motors. On one
I burnt my hand on the cigar plug when removing it to check the blown
fuse. Using the cheap 3-way cigar socket adapters as extension lead from
the car results in melted insulation and low volts at the pump, but
there's often no other way to reach the wheels.
--
Bill