Took down some curtains yesterday, and noticed the plastic hooks were a
little grubby, as were the plastic brackets attaching the rail to the
wall. Removed the lot and cleaned the real, but the hooks and brackets
I dumped in the cutlery thingy, in the dishwasher. Came up just like
new! [2]

At the same time, I put the lid of our telephone junction box
(connection box) [1] in the dishwasher, which removed most of the paint
applied over the last fifty years! I will leave that in for another
wash.

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

[2] The dishwasher and washing machine are also excellent for cleaning
grubby Lego. Does not do the sticky labels many favours though :-)
--
Graeme

On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:04:49 +0100, News wrote:

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

Nothing odd at all. I guess that your phone line arrives overhead and
is thus Dropwire No.10. The wires will be three yellow ones and two
pairs (orange/white & green/black). The three yellow ones are brassed
steel strainer cores, the telephone service being provided over one
of the pairs.

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Cheers
Dave.

I'd have thought that paint in a sdishwasher was a quick way to clog it up
though.
My main gripe with curtain fittings is that most these days are plastic and
hence tend to go brittle when you want to remove the curtains. Down the shop
for another lot, sorry sir, those are no longer made, you will need a new
rail and mounting hardwaree.
Brian

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"News" wrote in message
...

Took down some curtains yesterday, and noticed the plastic hooks were a
little grubby, as were the plastic brackets attaching the rail to the
wall. Removed the lot and cleaned the real, but the hooks and brackets I
dumped in the cutlery thingy, in the dishwasher. Came up just like new!
[2]

At the same time, I put the lid of our telephone junction box (connection
box) [1] in the dishwasher, which removed most of the paint applied over
the last fifty years! I will leave that in for another wash.

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

[2] The dishwasher and washing machine are also excellent for cleaning
grubby Lego. Does not do the sticky labels many favours though :-)
--
Graeme

In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 08:04:49 +0100, News wrote:

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

Nothing odd at all. I guess that your phone line arrives overhead and
is thus Dropwire No.10. The wires will be three yellow ones and two
pairs (orange/white & green/black). The three yellow ones are brassed
steel strainer cores, the telephone service being provided over one
of the pairs.

Yes, the line is overhead, as is electricity. The phone cable is 7
wires, all single colour. Green and black are connected to the master
socket, the five remaining being 1 x orange, 1 x white and 3 x red.
--
Graeme

On 10/09/2014 09:14, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'd have thought that paint in a sdishwasher was a quick way to clog it up
though.
My main gripe with curtain fittings is that most these days are plastic and
hence tend to go brittle when you want to remove the curtains. Down the shop
for another lot, sorry sir, those are no longer made, you will need a new
rail and mounting hardwaree.
Brian


It would be more sensible to put them in a laundry bag and wash them
with some clothes in the washing machine. This is what you do with lego.

As for stuff going brittle, it depends on quality.
I have some hooks that are at least 20 years old and are fine but others
have gone brittle after a few years.

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 9:14:37 AM UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
"News" wrote in message
...

Took down some curtains yesterday, and noticed the plastic hooks were a
little grubby, as were the plastic brackets attaching the rail to the
wall. Removed the lot and cleaned the real, but the hooks and brackets
dumped in the cutlery thingy, in the dishwasher. Came up just like new!
[2]

At the same time, I put the lid of our telephone junction box (connection
box) [1] in the dishwasher, which removed most of the paint applied over
the last fifty years! I will leave that in for another wash.

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

[2] The dishwasher and washing machine are also excellent for cleaning
grubby Lego. Does not do the sticky labels many favours though :-)

I'd have thought that paint in a sdishwasher was a quick way to clog it up
though.
My main gripe with curtain fittings is that most these days are plastic and
hence tend to go brittle when you want to remove the curtains. Down the shop
for another lot, sorry sir, those are no longer made, you will need a new
rail and mounting hardwaree.
Brian

Go somewhere that sells the parts then. Wilko does some.


NT

So how do you tell at purchase time which ones they are, or is it just the
brittle ones have in fact been held in stock for longer so failure is
closer.

They all seem to come in those little bags made out of that crackly plastic
stuff, so its hard to tell.
Brian

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"Dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 10/09/2014 09:14, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'd have thought that paint in a sdishwasher was a quick way to clog it
up
though.
My main gripe with curtain fittings is that most these days are plastic
and
hence tend to go brittle when you want to remove the curtains. Down the
shop
for another lot, sorry sir, those are no longer made, you will need a new
rail and mounting hardwaree.
Brian


It would be more sensible to put them in a laundry bag and wash them with
some clothes in the washing machine. This is what you do with lego.

As for stuff going brittle, it depends on quality.
I have some hooks that are at least 20 years old and are fine but others
have gone brittle after a few years.

"News" wrote in message
...

Took down some curtains yesterday, and noticed the plastic hooks were a
little grubby, as were the plastic brackets attaching the rail to the
wall. Removed the lot and cleaned the real, but the hooks and brackets I
dumped in the cutlery thingy, in the dishwasher. Came up just like new!
[2]

At the same time, I put the lid of our telephone junction box (connection
box) [1] in the dishwasher, which removed most of the paint applied over
the last fifty years! I will leave that in for another wash.

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

[2] The dishwasher and washing machine are also excellent for cleaning
grubby Lego. Does not do the sticky labels many favours though :-)

Didn't you have room in the dishwasher for the toilet seats as well then?

In message , Gazz writes

Didn't you have room in the dishwasher for the toilet seats as well
then?

Toilet seats are wood. Best not get them too wet - see the kitchen
thread :-)
--
Graeme

On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:18:18 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

My main gripe with curtain fittings is that most these days are plastic and
hence tend to go brittle when you want to remove the curtains. Down the shop
for another lot, sorry sir, those are no longer made, you will need a new
rail and mounting hardwaree.
Brian

Go somewhere that sells the parts then. Wilko does some.

About 4 years ago I bought some track and fittings in Wilko's 'own' system.
A week later I needed another part, not in stock. Never has been since and
now only a prprietary brand, so not that reliable.
Fortunately I was able to do a functional bodge to solve the problem.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

I guess that after going through a dishwaher they might need a spray of Mr
Sheen to help them run smoothly.

In message 6,
DerbyBorn writes


I guess that after going through a dishwaher they might need a spray of Mr
Sheen to help them run smoothly.

I usually put a tiny dab of Vaseline on the track.

--
Graeme

On 10/09/2014 18:45, News wrote:
In message 6,
DerbyBorn writes


I guess that after going through a dishwaher they might need a spray
of Mr
Sheen to help them run smoothly.

I usually put a tiny dab of Vaseline on the track.

WD40 also works (spray on to a cloth and wipe on); perfectionists use
the silicone spray as used for pushfit waste pipes. I'd always assumed
that Mr Sheen contains a wax or similar but I have never actually checked.

On 10/09/2014 21:59, newshound wrote:
WD40 also works (spray on to a cloth and wipe on); perfectionists use
the silicone spray as used for pushfit waste pipes. I'd always assumed
that Mr Sheen contains a wax or similar but I have never actually checked.

As I have a can of silicone spray in the shed, I use that. As used in
the textile industry. If I didn't have that, I certainly would consider
WD40. This one: WD-40 Specialist Silicone Lubricant 400ml. But being a
cheapskate I'd probably buy another cheap silicone spray. I wouldn't use
ordinary WD40 or Mr Sheen or any other wax-containing product.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-spec...nt-400ml/86394

--
Rod

On 10/09/2014 22:21, polygonum wrote:
On 10/09/2014 21:59, newshound wrote:
WD40 also works (spray on to a cloth and wipe on); perfectionists use
the silicone spray as used for pushfit waste pipes. I'd always assumed
that Mr Sheen contains a wax or similar but I have never actually
checked.

As I have a can of silicone spray in the shed, I use that. As used in
the textile industry. If I didn't have that, I certainly would consider
WD40. This one: WD-40 Specialist Silicone Lubricant 400ml. But being a
cheapskate I'd probably buy another cheap silicone spray. I wouldn't use
ordinary WD40 or Mr Sheen or any other wax-containing product.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/wd-40-spec...nt-400ml/86394


I bet the contents are the same as the "cheap" sprays; I think you are
paying here for the name, but also for the smart straw which could be
convenient for some applications.

On 10/09/2014 08:04, News wrote:

Took down some curtains yesterday, and noticed the plastic hooks were a
little grubby, as were the plastic brackets attaching the rail to the
wall. Removed the lot and cleaned the real, but the hooks and brackets
I dumped in the cutlery thingy, in the dishwasher. Came up just like
new! [2]


In my experience any plastic curtain hook removed from a curtain that
has been fitted for 4+ years becomes brittle and will break when
attempting to re-hang the the curtain. You may have got them squeaky
clean but they may already have degraded due to UV from sunlight.

--
mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On 10/09/2014 09:14, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'd have thought that paint in a sdishwasher was a quick way to clog it up
though.
My main gripe with curtain fittings is that most these days are plastic and
hence tend to go brittle when you want to remove the curtains. Down the shop
for another lot, sorry sir, those are no longer made, you will need a new
rail and mounting hardwaree.

You can usually find a Ebay supplier charging premium prices but at a
cost a _lot_ less than replacing the whole infrastructure.



--
mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

In message , alan_m
writes

In my experience any plastic curtain hook removed from a curtain that
has been fitted for 4+ years becomes brittle and will break when
attempting to re-hang the the curtain. You may have got them squeaky
clean but they may already have degraded due to UV from sunlight.

In my experience, you're correct - sometimes. Yesterday, I rehung the
curtains and all hooks and brackets were absolutely fine. True, though,
that sometimes they are brittle, and usually break when removing, so
saving the trouble of cleaning.
--
Graeme

On 10/09/2014 22:33, newshound wrote:

I bet the contents are the same as the "cheap" sprays; I think you are
paying here for the name, but also for the smart straw which could be
convenient for some applications.

It is indeed difficult to think what else it could be than the same
basic product!

Funny how WD40 has wormed from being one universal product (pushed as if
it could do anything well) to a string of separate products which are
what many of the competitors have been offering.

--
Rod

News wrote

Took down some curtains yesterday, and noticed the plastic hooks were a
little grubby, as were the plastic brackets attaching the rail to the
wall. Removed the lot and cleaned the real, but the hooks and brackets I
dumped in the cutlery thingy, in the dishwasher. Came up just like new!
[2]

Yeah, the only things I don't do in the dishwasher
are PET bottles that don't survive the very hot water.

Great for the electric shutter on the kitchen exhaust fan which
gets utterly obscenely filthy with steak grilling fat and dirt.
None of the electrical parts come off with the shutter itself.

At the same time, I put the lid of our telephone junction box (connection
box) [1] in the dishwasher, which removed most of the paint applied over
the last fifty years! I will leave that in for another wash.

Haven't tried any painted stuff because I don't paint anything
except the big steel gates and they don't fit in the dishwasher.

[1] BT35A clearly marked GPO, so been there for a while. Incoming cable
has 7 wires, but only two are connected. A few more inches of cable
connect the BT35A to the master socket. Most odd.

[2] The dishwasher and washing machine are also excellent for cleaning
grubby Lego. Does not do the sticky labels many favours though :-)

I find that some of the latest jar labels survive fine
and are a complete pain the arse to get off the jars.

polygonum wrote in news:c7cu42FojbhU1
@mid.individual.net:

On 10/09/2014 22:33, newshound wrote:

I bet the contents are the same as the "cheap" sprays; I think you are
paying here for the name, but also for the smart straw which could be
convenient for some applications.

It is indeed difficult to think what else it could be than the same
basic product!

Funny how WD40 has wormed from being one universal product (pushed as if
it could do anything well) to a string of separate products which are
what many of the competitors have been offering.


Amazing how many curtains get damaged due to the runners being sticky and
the additional pulling soon wrecks the curtain or pulls the rail down.
(Often seen in hotels)

In message , Rod Speed
writes

Yeah, the only things I don't do in the dishwasher
are PET bottles that don't survive the very hot water.

The washing machine is good for stuff like a dustpan and brush. A
little noisy is I forget not to use the spin cycle :-)

Haven't tried any painted stuff because I don't paint anything
except the big steel gates and they don't fit in the dishwasher.

My painted stuff was the cover of a GPO junction box, which had been
painted multiple times. The dishwasher did not remove the paint, but
made it soft enough to scrape off with a finger nail.

--
Graeme

News wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Yeah, the only things I don't do in the dishwasher
are PET bottles that don't survive the very hot water.

The washing machine is good for stuff like a dustpan and brush.

Makes more sense to do those in the dishwasher
since they will survive the very hot water fine.

I have been planning to try some stuff like anodised aluminium
and PET bottles in the dishwasher with just the rinse cycle, but
haven't gotten around to trying that yet.

A little noisy is I forget not to use the spin cycle :-)

Yeah, that's the reason I don't do anything
but clothes and close in the washing machine.

Don't do lego.

Haven't tried any painted stuff because I don't paint anything
except the big steel gates and they don't fit in the dishwasher.

My painted stuff was the cover of a GPO junction box, which had
been painted multiple times. The dishwasher did not remove the
paint, but made it soft enough to scrape off with a finger nail.

Yeah, like I said, I haven't had any need to try painted stuff because
I don't have any painted stuff that will fit in the dishwasher.

In message , Rod Speed
writes
A little noisy is I forget not to use the spin cycle :-)

Yeah, that's the reason I don't do anything but clothes and close in
the washing machine.
Don't do lego.

I washed my son's grubby Lego bricks in the washing machine by putting
them in a pillowcase, and securing the open end with a large 'clippit'.
Worked well.
--
Graeme

On 11/09/2014 12:24, News wrote:

I washed my son's grubby Lego bricks in the washing machine by putting
them in a pillowcase, and securing the open end with a large 'clippit'.
Worked well.

You also wash paint rollers in the washing machine.


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In message , alan_m
writes


You also wash paint rollers in the washing machine.

Is that a statement, question, or recommendation?
--
Graeme

On 11/09/2014 01:05, alan_m wrote:
In my experience any plastic curtain hook removed from a curtain that
has been fitted for 4+ years becomes brittle and will break when
attempting to re-hang the the curtain. You may have got them squeaky
clean but they may already have degraded due to UV from sunlight.

We've just taken down some of the curtains and washed them for the first
time since we moved in. The hooks were fine; the lining disintegrated.
I'd guess the hooks are the same age as the curtains: 1981.

(yes, we are going to replace them. But there are more urgent problems)

Andy

On 11/09/2014 19:17, News wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes


You also wash paint rollers in the washing machine.

Is that a statement, question, or recommendation?

I wouldn't risk it. Might lead to divorce!

Andy

Vir Campestris wrote:

alan_m wrote:

In my experience any plastic curtain hook removed from a curtain that
has been fitted for 4+ years becomes brittle and will break when
attempting to re-hang the the curtain. You may have got them squeaky
clean but they may already have degraded due to UV from sunlight.

We've just taken down some of the curtains and washed them for the first
time since we moved in. The hooks were fine; the lining disintegrated.
I'd guess the hooks are the same age as the curtains: 1981.

I installed 'swish' tracks in ~1991, the hooks and the twistlock things
that hold the track to the wall brackets all went brittle some time ago.

A pack of 25 hooks is 39p from Dunelm, probably cheaper than washing
them ...

In message , Vir
Campestris writes
On 11/09/2014 19:17, News wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes


You also wash paint rollers in the washing machine.

Is that a statement, question, or recommendation?

I wouldn't risk it. Might lead to divorce!

I have a problem, though. When I use a roller, I wash it afterwards,
then hang it somewhere to dry. When SWMBO uses a roller, she rinses it,
and leaves it in the sink for me to move 'somewhere'. Note, rinses.
That means I then have to wash it properly anyway. She, of course,
maintains that she has already washed it properly. Just like she has
just roller painted a wall properly ...
--
Graeme