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Double gang intermediate light switches?
Do they exist?
basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. |
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"Stephen" wrote in message ...
Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. Information here any use? http://users.wfu.edu/matthews/course...iswitches.html |
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On 23/04/14 07:09, Stephen wrote:
Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=do...witch&tbm=shop I'd give you a link to TLC but their website is down... Failing that, don't diso**** GRID - GET Ultimate are available in all white - doesn't look much like typical grid when assembled. |
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"Stephen" wrote in message ... Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. I have never seen such a thing. The normal way is to use all gridswitches in the location to get them matching even if some are only single gang. Gridswitches don't look that different to normal switches esp. if from the same manufacturer. Nobody's going to notice if they are opposite ends of a room. |
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Information here any use? http://users.wfu.edu/matthews/course...lightsmultiswi tches.html Blimey - interesting but it makes you realise how confusing US wiring can be. A switch with 3 terminals is not a 3 way switch. God help us if this confusion comes over here. |
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DerbyBorn wrote:
Blimey - interesting but it makes you realise how confusing US wiring can be. A switch with 3 terminals is not a 3 way switch. God help us if this confusion comes over here. I had a similar sort of problem in plumbing. I had told my contractor that I wanted what I described as a 3-way diverter. They knew I wanted it to supply overhead shower, bath filler and bath side pencil shower. Only when the box was opened to see how to connect it (after I had drawn a line diagram of the concept) did the problem become clear. We had fallen foul of Bristan's bizarre nomenclature (1). Their three-way valve has two inputs (one to be blanked off) and two outputs. To get three outputs needs a five-way valve. Fortunately Bristan are not too far from me, and it was swapped in the nick of time. (1) Other manufacturers may do likewise. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:09:30 AM UTC+1, Stephen wrote:
Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. If all else fails you could fall back on standard switch plus relay NT |
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Stephen wrote: I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. I've only ever been able to do this by using grid switches. Some grid switches do match (reasonably) other 'ordinary' ones from the same maker. But if your chosen switches are 'fancy' ones, no chance. -- *White with a hint of M42* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Stephen" wrote in message ... Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. I have several - bought from MK. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:42:05 +0100, Geoff Pearson wrote:
"Stephen" wrote in message ... Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:42:05 +0100, Geoff Pearson wrote: "Stephen" wrote in message ... Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor Sorry - they are on the wall. |
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"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:42:05 +0100, Geoff Pearson wrote: "Stephen" wrote in message ... Do they exist? basically I have three doors in a kitchen that has 2 seperate sets of lights. we need to be able to control either set of lights from any 1 of these three doors. I can get double gang 2 way light switches in a single gang pattress but am having difficulty finding a single pattress with 2 intermediate switches in it.... I want to avoid modular grid switches on grounds of cost and to get all the electrical accessories looking all the same (i.e. same manufacturer) within the kitchen. I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 |
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Geoff Pearson wrote: I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 Not MK, though. The OP wants it to match his other fittings - but doesn't say what they are. -- *No I haven't stolen it , I'm just a **** driver* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Geoff Pearson wrote: I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 Not MK, though. The OP wants it to match his other fittings - but doesn't say what they are. What I did once was to remove an intermediate switch off the (single) backplate it came on and fix it to another backplate in place of a two way switch. That was when they were screwed on. might not be so easy when they are "plastic welded" in place. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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On 23/04/2014 09:41, DerbyBorn wrote:
Information here any use? http://users.wfu.edu/matthews/course...lightsmultiswi tches.html Blimey - interesting but it makes you realise how confusing US wiring can be. A switch with 3 terminals is not a 3 way switch. God help us if this confusion comes over here. Other than the terminology (3 way rather than 2 way, and 4 way rather than crossover) its pretty much the same as we do (without the wirenuts!)) http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...1.29_Switching -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , Geoff Pearson wrote: I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 Not MK, though. The OP wants it to match his other fittings - but doesn't say what they are. That does create a bit of a problem when trying to answer the question doesn't it:-)? -- Adam |
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... In article , Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Geoff Pearson wrote: I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 Not MK, though. The OP wants it to match his other fittings - but doesn't say what they are. What I did once was to remove an intermediate switch off the (single) backplate it came on and fix it to another backplate in place of a two way switch. That was when they were screwed on. might not be so easy when they are "plastic welded" in place. Of course CLICK electrical switches are designed for this. It's called modular not grid. -- Adam |
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On 23/04/2014 18:35, ARW wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Geoff Pearson wrote: I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 Not MK, though. The OP wants it to match his other fittings - but doesn't say what they are. That does create a bit of a problem when trying to answer the question doesn't it:-)? I normally use Marbo stuff from Screwfix..... At a push if I could keep costs down I night consider using modular for all light switches in the kitchen as the ouside door will have two extra switches for outside lights that need to be 2 way on - off - on to give permanently on or Permanently Off or PIR automatic. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:53:14 +0100, Stephen
wrote: On 23/04/2014 18:35, ARW wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Geoff Pearson wrote: I have several - bought from MK. Got a part number? http://www.contactum.co.uk/products/...oulded-white-0 Not MK, though. The OP wants it to match his other fittings - but doesn't say what they are. That does create a bit of a problem when trying to answer the question doesn't it:-)? I normally use Marbo stuff from Screwfix..... At a push if I could keep costs down I night consider using modular for all light switches in the kitchen as the ouside door will have two extra switches for outside lights that need to be 2 way on - off - on to give permanently on or Permanently Off or PIR automatic. Contactum 2 gang intermediate - fairly similar to Marbo http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CM2723.html -- rbel |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:53:14 +0100, Stephen wrote:
At a push if I could keep costs down I night consider using modular for all light switches in the kitchen as the ouside door will have two extra switches for outside lights that need to be 2 way on - off - on to give permanently on or Permanently Off or PIR automatic. Don't think I've ever seena center off "light switch" or switch module. Do you need it anyway? Many PIRs will latch into permenant on if you toggle the power to them a couple of times over a couple of seconds. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 23 Apr 2014, "Dave Liquorice"
grunted: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:53:14 +0100, Stephen wrote: At a push if I could keep costs down I night consider using modular for all light switches in the kitchen as the ouside door will have two extra switches for outside lights that need to be 2 way on - off - on to give permanently on or Permanently Off or PIR automatic. Don't think I've ever seena center off "light switch" or switch module. Do you need it anyway? Many PIRs will latch into permenant on if you toggle the power to them a couple of times over a couple of seconds. Intermediate switches aren't 'centre off'; they just toggle up or down just like a 2-way switch, only the lights are controllable from three places rather than two. We have one 2-gang one here which controls the landing light from downstairs and at either end of the (long) landing; sorry OP, no idea what brand it is. -- David |
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"Dave Liquorice" writes: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:53:14 +0100, Stephen wrote: At a push if I could keep costs down I night consider using modular for all light switches in the kitchen as the ouside door will have two extra switches for outside lights that need to be 2 way on - off - on to give permanently on or Permanently Off or PIR automatic. Don't think I've ever seena center off "light switch" or switch module. Do you need it anyway? Many PIRs will latch into permenant on if you toggle the power to them a couple of times over a couple of seconds. First generation MK gridswitch (toggle-style) had a centre-off switch. Not so easy to control with current trend to rocker switches, which may be why there isn't one. Current generation MK gridswitch has a momentary action centre-off switch (usually used with control circuits to switch lights on and off, without storing the the current on/off state in the switch itself). -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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