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On 06/01/2014 08:12, harryagain wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...tists-say.html

From a link on that page:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...nge-read-this/

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harryagain wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...tists-say.html


"´The scientific delusion, the religion behind the climate crusade,
is crumbling,ˇ he wrote in The Australian. ´Global temperatures have
gone nowhere for 17 years... If the IPCC were your financial adviser,
you would have sacked it long ago.ˇ"

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Well, the increasingly dynamic weather will downgrade the extra energy
stored fine I'm sure.
I think the term climate change is definitely better than global warming as
the latter suggests everyone will be warmer, which is not what the models
show, they show more violent weather and more cold and hot places and the
in between is where the energy gets expended.
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On 06/01/2014 08:12, harryagain wrote:
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How do you equate that with the fact that warming is slower than
predicted as DECC have said.

It proves you can't believe anything a climate scientist says.
They will tell you anything that alarms you and will get them more funding.


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On 06/01/2014 08:57, Nightjar wrote:
On 06/01/2014 08:12, harryagain wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...tists-say.html


From a link on that page:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...nge-read-this/


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That is another misleading piece Delingpole a well known paranoid
righttard nutter blog and pathological liar about climate change.

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On 06/01/2014 10:21, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Martin Brown
wrote:

On 06/01/2014 08:57, Nightjar wrote:
On 06/01/2014 08:12, harryagain wrote:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...546128/Worlds-

climate-warming-faster-than-feared-scientists-say.html


From a link on that page:



http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...-you-still-bel

ieve-in-climate-change-read-this/


That is another misleading piece Delingpole a well known paranoid
righttard nutter blog and pathological liar about climate change.


These are mere assertions on your part (although they may be true).
However I would expect you to justify that:

1) the piece is misleading

2) Delingpole habitually lies

Note that I have not read the piece and don't intend to. However I
would draw your attention to one of the opinion pieces in the Times
today.


Also, the (older) IEA paper linked by Delingpole seems quite sensible
and, as Delingpole says, selecting unreasonable discount rates (Stern)
severely skews the predicted best policy.
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On 06/01/2014 09:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well, the increasingly dynamic weather will downgrade the extra energy
stored fine I'm sure.
I think the term climate change is definitely better than global warming as
the latter suggests everyone will be warmer, which is not what the models
show, they show more violent weather and more cold and hot places and the
in between is where the energy gets expended.
Brian


The climate change models don't show any such thing.
You are talking about weather not climate and the predictions that
*increased* temperatures will produce worse weather are what the
alarmists use to get the uneducated to panic.

The real facts are that the weather isn't particularly bad and most of
the storms and such like have been happening for centuries, only the
effects are worse due to the larger number of people being affected and
the poor decisions on where to live.

What people forget is that flood plains are natures way of controlling
floods and if you build on them you will get flooded. What's needed is
some sanity and to stop building where you shouldn't and pull the houses
down that do flood frequently rather than *moving* the floods to
somewhere else by building flood defences.
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harryagain wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...tists-say.html


We are the UK, we get weather change not climate change. We knew a
century ago that weather cycles exist and had even charted them. The
romans described the UK as having permanent winter, I don't see any
difference.
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[email protected] wrote:

What people forget is that flood plains are natures way of controlling
floods and if you build on them you will get flooded. What's needed is
some sanity and to stop building where you shouldn't and pull the houses
down that do flood frequently rather than *moving* the floods to
somewhere else by building flood defences.


You can't do that. Planning departments are infamous for lack of common
sense. A relative was plagued by a damp patch on his dining room wall.
In desperation, he lifted the floor boards and found that he was looking
at his reflection in the water under the floor. By chance, I talked to
someone who lived in the area and he said that he wondered what would
happen when they built that group of houses on the local duck pond!
Relative moved quickly.


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