Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052


Dumb Britain.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052...

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on lorry
cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete with the bolt
croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)

On Feb 21, 4:44*pm, "Nthkentman" wrote:
"Grimly Curmudgeon" *wrote in message

...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.http://www.mirror.co..uk/news/uk-new...d-face-1708052...

Pure Darwininsm.

In completely the wrong direction, unless you know the "accident" left
him infertile.

MBQ

"Nthkentman" wrote in
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!

On Friday 22 February 2013 21:17 DerbyBorn wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Nthkentman" wrote in
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)




They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!

?

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Tim Watts wrote:
On Friday 22 February 2013 21:17 DerbyBorn wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Nthkentman" wrote in
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work
on lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer
complete with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)




They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced
off. Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a
bit safer!

?
:-) and ????????



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On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:40:43 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On Friday 22 February 2013 21:17 DerbyBorn wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Nthkentman" wrote in
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...hief-left-red-
face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)




They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!

?

+1



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In article 42,
DerbyBorn wrote:
"Nthkentman" wrote in
:



"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!

I^2R losses, dear boy.

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On 23/02/2013 10:17 a.m., DerbyBorn wrote:
"Nthkentman" wrote in
:



"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!


12 V is safer still.

In article ,
Gib Bogle wrote:
On 23/02/2013 10:17 a.m., DerbyBorn wrote:
"Nthkentman" wrote in
:



"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!


12 V is safer still.

or even 1.2v from a NiCad rechargeable.

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On 22/02/2013 21:51, Gib Bogle wrote:
On 23/02/2013 10:17 a.m., DerbyBorn wrote:
"Nthkentman" wrote in
:



"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!


12 V is safer still.

We have generally seen discussions here suggest that UK 230 V is safer
than US 110 V - partly because we have lower currents. Surely, by the
time you increase currents another nearly-10-fold, things like kettles
and washing machines are going have ridiculous currents or appalling
performance. And, I suggest, will end up less safe overall.

Certainly for touching with a finger, 12 V is safer than 110 or 230 V -
but that ain't the whole picture.

--
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:00:07 +0000, polygonum wrote:

On 22/02/2013 21:51, Gib Bogle wrote:
On 23/02/2013 10:17 a.m., DerbyBorn wrote:
"Nthkentman" wrote in
:



"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...hief-left-red-
face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit
safer!


12 V is safer still.

We have generally seen discussions here suggest that UK 230 V is safer
than US 110 V - partly because we have lower currents. Surely, by the
time you increase currents another nearly-10-fold, things like kettles
and washing machines are going have ridiculous currents or appalling
performance. And, I suggest, will end up less safe overall.

Certainly for touching with a finger, 12 V is safer than 110 or 230 V -
but that ain't the whole picture.

I remember hearing (more than once) of severe wrist burns sustained when
working under a car dashboard wearing a metal watch strap. High current
can be bad too.



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On Sat, 23 Feb 2013 10:51:09 +1300, Gib Bogle wrote:

On 23/02/2013 10:17 a.m., DerbyBorn wrote:
"Nthkentman" wrote in
:



"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...hief-left-red-
face-1708052.
..

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!


12 V is safer still.

Those cables would really be worth nicking. If they could be lifted.



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There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on
lorry cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete
with the bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)



They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.
Anyway - why do we need 11,000 volts? 230 is enough and is a bit safer!



Those cables would really be worth nicking. If they could be lifted.




Sorry - tongue was in cheek. Attempt at technical humour!

On Friday, February 22, 2013 9:17:20 PM UTC, DerbyBorn wrote:


They should put warning signs on substations and have them fenced off.

There was an incident a couple of decades ago (pre-privatisation) where some kids got into a primary (33/11kV) substation and were electrocuted. All area boards were required to assess the 'attractiveness' of all substations for miscreant kids and re-fence as necessary.

That's why quite a few s/s that were originally well hidden behind close boarded fencing are now visible behind metal palisade style enclosures.

"Nthkentman" wrote:
"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message ...

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052...

Pure Darwininsm.

There is a pic at a local sub station where I used to go to work on lorry
cranes of a Pikey melted to the side of a transformer complete with the
bolt croppers still in his semi skeletal hands.
Dumb **** of the year award (Posthumously!)

Was that up around Scousepool? Bootle police had a similar photo of a well
known local scrote who tried it on once too often.

Since every one's doing "my dad" stories, when he was an engineer with the
Electricity Board my dad was called out to a power outage that had affected
Runcorn. Someone had hacksawed through an 11kV line over the Ship Canal. No
sign of the would be thief and no interest from the police in dragging the
canal to look for him.

Dad pointed out that even if they had got the cable cut at both ends they
would not have been able to lift it without a crane or a winch.

This was back around 1960.

He was also called out to fix a tree in Manchester that had given an
electric shock to someone waiting at a bus stop. The roots had grown into
an HT line.

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On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...


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John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the journo get
for that one :-):

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In article , ARW
writes
John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the journo get
for that one :-):

Outrage, no capital V on Volts!
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

On 21/02/2013 20:01, fred wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the
journo get
for that one :-):

Outrage, no capital V on Volts!

The abbreviation is V but the name is volt, so far as I know.

(And if I am wrong, charge me.)

--
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On 21/02/2013 21:09, polygonum wrote:
On 21/02/2013 20:01, fred wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the
journo get
for that one :-):

Outrage, no capital V on Volts!

The abbreviation is V but the name is volt, so far as I know.

(And if I am wrong, charge me.)


Is that the current usage?

In article , polygonum
writes
On 21/02/2013 20:01, fred wrote:

Outrage, no capital V on Volts!

The abbreviation is V but the name is volt, so far as I know.

(And if I am wrong, charge me.)

Think you're right, I was assuming that named after bloke would inherit
the proper noun status but I was wrong.

Happy to head off any potential conflict . . .
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

polygonum wrote:
On 21/02/2013 20:01, fred wrote:
In article , ARW
writes
John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his
treatment as well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the
journo get
for that one :-):

Outrage, no capital V on Volts!

The abbreviation is V but the name is volt, so far as I know.




(And if I am wrong, charge me.)

What with, Coulomb's law?

--
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On Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:01:24 UTC, fred wrote:


Outrage, no capital V on Volts!


The real outrage is that you can't send Volts 'through' anything, only Amps.

On 22/02/2013 00:11, Arty Effem wrote:
On Thursday, 21 February 2013 20:01:24 UTC, fred wrote:


Outrage, no capital V on Volts!


The real outrage is that you can't send Volts 'through' anything, only Amps.


You can induce volts through many things without any current flowing
through them.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:29:59 +0000, ARW wrote:

John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the journo
get for that one :-):

The journo's mistake is that it's amps that go through you not volts! The
volts are across you.

TOJ

In article ,
The Other John writes:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:29:59 +0000, ARW wrote:

John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the journo
get for that one :-):

The journo's mistake is that it's amps that go through you not volts! The
volts are across you.

I suspect it was the arc-flash that got him.
Very unlikely to still be around if he got 11kV across him.

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On Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:12:18 PM UTC, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,


I suspect it was the arc-flash that got him.

Very unlikely to still be around if he got 11kV across him.


And it was a 50/50 chance that he got 6.3kV to earth or 11kv between phases.

On Thursday 21 February 2013 23:12 Andrew Gabriel wrote in uk.d-i-y:

In article ,
The Other John writes:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:29:59 +0000, ARW wrote:

John Rumm wrote:
On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...hief-left-red-
face-1708052

Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as
well...

"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the journo
get for that one :-):

The journo's mistake is that it's amps that go through you not volts!
The volts are across you.

I suspect it was the arc-flash that got him.
Very unlikely to still be around if he got 11kV across him.


My dad was in the burns unit back in the 60's with another LEB engineer.
This man had taken an 11kV voltage reading at an isolatable test point in a
substation (bare metal probes, HV meter).

He forgot to throw the test point isolator before grabbing both probes with
both hands.

The theory was that the arc had flashed over his skin, hand to hand largely
not going through him. Needless to say he was a bit fried...

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On Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:52:12 PM UTC, The Other John wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:29:59 +0000, ARW wrote:



John Rumm wrote:

On 21/02/2013 16:03, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

Great stuff.

I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052



Shame the judge did not order him to pay for some of his treatment as

well...



"sending 11,000 volts through Wayne Houfe" - how long should the journo

get for that one :-):



The journo's mistake is that it's amps that go through you not volts! The

volts are across you.

No the volts were across him :-)

Which obviuosly caused a rasin of the currant.

In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

quote
Glynn Wales, chairman of the bench in Darlington, said: €œThese are
serious matters."
/quote

So serious that they gave the f'ckr a suspended sentence so no judicial
punishment for the offence at all, I despair.
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

The man is clearly a major criminal:

He takes 31 tables every day...

On 21/02/2013 18:32, Bert Coules wrote:
The man is clearly a major criminal:

He takes 31 tables every day...



Maybe he's the chairman of the local thieves association and likes to
table a motion ... or motion tables at least.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

I see the article says that he has transferred his activities to stealing
tables.

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On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:03:30 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

Great stuff.
I suspect he might be stupid enough to do that again.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...d-face-1708052

Definitely in a bad way if he has to take 31 tables (sic) every day.



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