Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

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Frank Erskine

Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

You can make your own easily enough, especially as the size isn't
critical. Drip molten lead into cold water. Not from a height as they
come out as disks. Wear every sort of protection.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:
Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

You can make your own easily enough, especially as the size isn't
critical. Drip molten lead into cold water. Not from a height as they
come out as disks. Wear every sort of protection.

Bill
why not just fill with molten lead,drill out if adjustment needed.

On 20/02/13 00:33, Bill Wright wrote:
Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

You can make your own easily enough, especially as the size isn't
critical. Drip molten lead into cold water. Not from a height as they
come out as disks. Wear every sort of protection.


Or from sufficient height that they are at least crusted before they hit
the water. Google 'shot tower'


A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

But for clock weights why not cast your own bobs?

make plaster moulds or clay (slightly tapered) cylindrical moulds with
an open top.

The lead can be sawn filed drilled and sanded easily enough to put a
suspension tag in the top once cast.





Bill


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On 19/02/2013 23:34, Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Shotgun cartridges

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling,...

The lead weights poisoned water fowl, hence The Control of Pollution
(Angler's Lead weights) Regulations 1986.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be 63%
tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as Johnson
Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

Colin Bignell

In message , Frank Erskine
writes
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -



A sear for "lead shot" on Ebay produces a few results that may be worth
a look at, not sure about the size though. Another idea, prompted by
Ebay is a diving shop, apparently it is used for ballast, although
again, size maybe an issue.
--
Bill

Nightjar wrote
Frank Erskine wrote

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Shotgun cartridges

Quite a few of those are lead free too now for the same reason as with
sinkers.

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs with
lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling,...

The lead weights poisoned water fowl, hence The Control of Pollution
(Angler's Lead weights) Regulations 1986.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be tin.

That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be 63%
tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as Johnson
Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

It's easier to climb on a church roof than get the weights off a
speeding car.

Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

Bill

Rod Speed wrote:

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

You can buy rolls of lead at any builders' merchant. Some years ago we
experimented with it as weights to hold cables down on flat roofs.

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

It's easier to climb on a church roof than get the weights off a speeding
car.

Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

We got the lead by melting it out of the metal jacketed 303 bullets
we got from the dirt mound behind the targets at the local rifle range.

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

You can buy rolls of lead at any builders' merchant. Some years ago we
experimented with it as weights to hold cables down on flat roofs.

Yeah, I'd forgotten that I have some myself that I got
that way, used as flashings around the sewer vents
where they go thru the metal decking flat roof.

The weights used for wheel balancing as the TurNiP pointed out too.

Besides have you not heard most solder is not lead free.
Brian

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"Frank Erskine" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

--
Frank Erskine

Frank Erskine wrote:

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Buy a copy of Gun Mart magazine, and see the ads in there. Loads of
sellers do it for home loading of shotgun cartridges, all sizes from
around half a mm to 6mm or so.


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On Feb 19, 11:34*pm, Frank Erskine
wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

--
Frank Erskine

Or how about mercury? Hard to get these days I suppose.

On 20/02/2013 02:10, Bill Wright wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

It's easier to climb on a church roof than get the weights off a
speeding car.

Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

Bill

It sounds a dangerous mix, an ex lead thief and an aerial fitter.
Do you still get the urge to indulge?

On 20/02/2013 02:10, Bill Wright wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

It's easier to climb on a church roof than get the weights off a
speeding car.

Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

I melted down my dad's toy lead soldiers in a baked bean tin. Aaargh...

--
David

On 20/02/2013 07:57, Lobster wrote:
On 20/02/2013 02:10, Bill Wright wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

It's easier to climb on a church roof than get the weights off a
speeding car.

Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

I melted down my dad's toy lead soldiers in a baked bean tin. Aaargh...

Used to melt down plumbing scrap from work done in the house. A kid of
my age then (around 9 or 10) playing with a blowtorch and lead...

Never actually managed to do anything useful with it. :-(

--
Rod

Frank Erskine wrote:

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

powdered lead ok?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009HP3X0I

On 20/02/2013 01:51, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Frank Erskine wrote

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Shotgun cartridges

Quite a few of those are lead free too now for the same reason as with
sinkers.

Only for waterfowling. Plenty of lead shot available for other uses.

....
That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be
63% tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as
Johnson Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

Not only can you usually buy solder in smaller quantities, but a stick
can be drawn down to a size that would fit inside the mouth of a
sparklets bulb. That would make it simple to heat the bottom of the bulb
and feed the solder in to melt inside, which would be much easier than
trying to pour molten lead through a 3/32" hole.

Colin Bignell

On 19/02/2013 11:34 PM, Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

TIA -

Lead shot isn't used generally in fishing but non-toxic shot is. Smaller
size shot (dust shot) can, I believe, still be lead.

No. 8 shot (the higher the number the smaller the shot) is about 2.3mm
in diameter (3.32"=2.38mm) and should be readily available from a decent
tackle shop or on-line.

For example,
http://www.anglingdirect.co.uk/store...ot-refill-pots

PS. I haven't been fishing for years.

"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2013 01:51, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Frank Erskine wrote

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Shotgun cartridges

Quite a few of those are lead free too now for the same reason as with
sinkers.

Only for waterfowling. Plenty of lead shot available for other uses.

I said QUITE A FEW for a reason.

And it makes a lot more sense to buy the lead shot
used by those who load their own shotgun shells
than to buy the actual shotgun shells anyway.

That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be
63% tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as
Johnson Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

Not only can you usually buy solder in smaller quantities,

But it isnt pure lead.

but a stick can be drawn down to a size that would fit inside the mouth of
a sparklets bulb.

Makes a lot more sense to buy the lead shot that's
intended to be used when reloading shotgun shells.

That would make it simple to heat the bottom of the bulb and feed the
solder in to melt inside, which would be much easier than trying to pour
molten lead through a 3/32" hole.

Makes a lot more sense to buy the lead shot that's
intended to be used when reloading shotgun shells.

On 20/02/2013 09:39, Rod Speed wrote:


"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2013 01:51, Rod Speed wrote:
....
And it makes a lot more sense to buy the lead shot
used by those who load their own shotgun shells
than to buy the actual shotgun shells anyway.

I assumed an intelligent person would work that out for themselves,
especially as you can't buy shotgun cartridges in the UK without a
shotgun certificate.

That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be
63% tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as
Johnson Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

Not only can you usually buy solder in smaller quantities,

But it isnt pure lead....

95% lead is close enough for the required purpose.

Colin Bignell

I suppose sand is not heavy enough?

Brian

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"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2013-02-19, Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

An ebay search for "lead shot" gets 317 hits ...

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On 20/02/2013 10:25, Brian Gaff wrote:
I suppose sand is not heavy enough?

Brian

Depleted uranium would be...

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On 20/02/2013 10:26, polygonum wrote:
On 20/02/2013 10:25, Brian Gaff wrote:
I suppose sand is not heavy enough?

Brian

Depleted uranium would be...


If you had some lead sheet, it would be rather easy and considerably
safer, just to roll it up into a nice scroll shape and make a hole in
the top to hang it from.

dennis@home wrote:
On 20/02/2013 02:10, Bill Wright wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

A good source of lead is either roofing material or car tyre balancing
weights.

It's easier to climb on a church roof than get the weights off a
speeding car.

Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

Bill

It sounds a dangerous mix, an ex lead thief and an aerial fitter.
Do you still get the urge to indulge?
In the days when my dad used to make his own fishing leads we both used
to look in the gutters for scraps of lead left by the roofers.

Bill

In article ,
Frank Erskine wrote:
Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

A fishing tackle shop was suggested, but when I called at one I was
told that lead is banned for angling, and their only "shot" was much
too big to fit into the hole in the bulb.

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.

Try diving shops. Lead shot is common in weightbelts.

Alternatively cast your own - something else that's common in
older diving circles... I've seen moulds made from wood too...

You could even take lead sheeting and tightly roll it into
a cylinder. Taper the ends with some gentle hammering (and fix in a
cup-hook at the same time) Won't have quite the same density, but ...?

Gordon

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:17:17 +0000, Nightjar
wrote:

On 20/02/2013 01:51, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Frank Erskine wrote

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Shotgun cartridges

Quite a few of those are lead free too now for the same reason as with
sinkers.

Only for waterfowling. Plenty of lead shot available for other uses.

...
That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be
63% tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as
Johnson Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

Not only can you usually buy solder in smaller quantities, but a stick
can be drawn down to a size that would fit inside the mouth of a
sparklets bulb. That would make it simple to heat the bottom of the bulb
and feed the solder in to melt inside, which would be much easier than
trying to pour molten lead through a 3/32" hole.

Yes - the idea is to fill it with lead shot, heat it to melt the lead,
then when it's cool top up with more shot, and son on until the bulb's
full, then screw in a small eye to attach it.
The advantage of using a sparklets bulb is that it will polish nicely.

Itr's not for me - a pal of mine repairs/reconditions/messes about
with clocks.

--
Frank Erskine

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:37:43 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Frank Erskine wrote:

Does anyone know of a supply of lead shot no more than, say, 3/32"
diameter pse?

Sounds a little odd, but I want to fill old "sparklets" type bulbs
with lead to make weights for driving clocks.

powdered lead ok?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009HP3X0I

Hmm - thanks. I'd never heard of it!


--
Frank Erskine

harry wrote:

Solder would be a possibility, but a large proportion of it would be
tin.


Or how about mercury? Hard to get these days I suppose.

The scones my mother-in-law used to make would be ideal.

Bill

Frank Erskine :
The advantage of using a sparklets bulb is that it will polish nicely.

But it will always look like a Sparklets bulb.

--
Mike Barnes

In article ,
Lobster wrote:

On 20/02/2013 02:10, Bill Wright wrote:
Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.

I melted down my dad's toy lead soldiers in a baked bean tin. Aaargh...

AGH! That's the worst crime so far admitted in this group! AUGH!

Bill: re lead .... do you think it wise, to be fessing up in that way,
in this current climate of retrospective judicial proceedings? :-)

J.

Mike Barnes wrote:
Frank Erskine :
The advantage of using a sparklets bulb is that it will polish nicely.

But it will always look like a Sparklets bulb.

Which are a rather pleasing shape IMO. I can easily understand why one
might want to use one rather than a rolled up lump of lead.

Tim

Rod Speed wrote:


"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

You can buy rolls of lead at any builders' merchant. Some years ago we
experimented with it as weights to hold cables down on flat roofs.

Yeah, I'd forgotten that I have some myself that I got
that way, used as flashings around the sewer vents
where they go thru the metal decking flat roof.

The weights used for wheel balancing as the TurNiP pointed out too.
Apropo of nothing in particular, wheel weights have a lot of antimony to
make them hard, we used to put a few wheel weights and a bit of tin with
the lead when casting bullets.

Another John wrote:
In article ,
Lobster wrote:

On 20/02/2013 02:10, Bill Wright wrote:
Confession: as a 13 year old me and my mate were always nicking lead. It
was disgraceful really.
I melted down my dad's toy lead soldiers in a baked bean tin. Aaargh...

AGH! That's the worst crime so far admitted in this group! AUGH!

Bill: re lead .... do you think it wise, to be fessing up in that way,
in this current climate of retrospective judicial proceedings? :-)

Possibly not. I think I'll keep quiet about the arson.

Bill

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:50:28 +0000, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Frank Erskine :
The advantage of using a sparklets bulb is that it will polish nicely.

But it will always look like a Sparklets bulb.

I don't care. It's not for me. :-)

--
Frank Erskine

On 20/02/2013 10:26, polygonum wrote:
On 20/02/2013 10:25, Brian Gaff wrote:
I suppose sand is not heavy enough?

Brian

Depleted uranium would be...


Use nuclear waste so you get a nice warm glow.

"GB" wrote in message
...
On 20/02/2013 10:26, polygonum wrote:
On 20/02/2013 10:25, Brian Gaff wrote:
I suppose sand is not heavy enough?

Brian

Depleted uranium would be...


If you had some lead sheet, it would be rather easy and considerably
safer, just to roll it up into a nice scroll shape and make a hole in the
top to hang it from.

Doesn't look as good as lead shot in a used soda siphon thing tho.

Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote

And it makes a lot more sense to buy the lead shot
used by those who load their own shotgun shells
than to buy the actual shotgun shells anyway.

I assumed an intelligent person would work that out
for themselves, especially as you can't buy shotgun
cartridges in the UK without a shotgun certificate.

SURE you did.

That depends which solder you buy. Eutectic lead tin solder will be
63% tin and 37% lead, but EN ISO 9453:2006 Alloy No 123, such as
Johnson Matthey JM595, is 95% lead and 5% tin.

But you must be able to buy lead used for flashings etc.

Not only can you usually buy solder in smaller quantities,

But it isnt pure lead....

95% lead is close enough for the required purpose.

But lead shot intended for reloading shotgun shells is a
hell of a lot easier to get into a used soda siphon thing.

"Mike Barnes" wrote in message
...
Frank Erskine :
The advantage of using a sparklets bulb is that it will polish nicely.

But it will always look like a Sparklets bulb.

Still going to look better than something made from sheet lead.

The main alternative is a lead mould, but its unlikely to
ever end up looking as good as a polished sparklets bulb.