Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

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I'm sure it will eventually come out that they are not alone in doing such
things. There does seem to be a human trait of out of sght out of mind in
this world.



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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

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In article ,
Mike Tomlinson writes:

Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

Not sure why this is particularly newsworthy now - it's been known
for decades there's loads of nuclear junk there. Also in some of
the former USSR countries which have no money to deal with the
legacy they've been left with.

There are a thousand or so abandoned/lost/stolen thermal decay reacters
which were used to power lighthouses. Theives often cut them up with
angle griders for the scrap metal, and die a few days later. Even
the authorities have dropped several in failed salvage attempts,
only to watch them melt their way into the ice and dissappear from
sight.
http://bellona.no/bellona.org/englis...ncidents/31772

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On 24/01/2013 11:36, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson writes:

Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.


As you do. Over late breakfast. :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

Not sure why this is particularly newsworthy now - it's been known
for decades there's loads of nuclear junk there. Also in some of
the former USSR countries which have no money to deal with the
legacy they've been left with.

There are a thousand or so abandoned/lost/stolen thermal decay reacters
which were used to power lighthouses. Theives often cut them up with
angle griders for the scrap metal, and die a few days later. Even
the authorities have dropped several in failed salvage attempts,
only to watch them melt their way into the ice and dissappear from
sight.
http://bellona.no/bellona.org/englis...ncidents/31772


Agree with Andrew, why is it a story today and not yesterday, or any
other time in the past goodness knows how many years?

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On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:35:29 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

That article is essentially having a pop at the oil industry, rather than coming up with any fresh news about the
Russian submarine concerned.



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On 24/01/13 11:18, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm sure it will eventually come out that they are not alone in doing such
things. There does seem to be a human trait of out of sght out of mind in
this world.



well since the sea is a very big place and its already radioactive from
natural uranium and thorium, I doubt whether a bit more will make a
noticeable difference.



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On 24.01.2013 12:36, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Mike Tomlinson
writes:

Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

Not sure why this is particularly newsworthy now - it's been known
for decades there's loads of nuclear junk there. Also in some of the
former USSR countries which have no money to deal with the legacy
they've been left with.

There are a thousand or so abandoned/lost/stolen thermal decay
reacters which were used to power lighthouses. Theives often cut them
up with angle griders for the scrap metal, and die a few days later.
Even the authorities have dropped several in failed salvage
attempts, only to watch them melt their way into the ice and
dissappear from sight.
http://bellona.no/bellona.org/englis...ncidents/31772

Bellona is not a good source if you want to learn about radiation
and its hazards. All fish are less radioactive than you.

The only problem with nuclear waste in the Sea is the blackmail from the
environmentalists. Bellona makes a lot of money from it.
Frederic Hauge met at the yearly conference for the fishing industry in
Norway and told in very direct words that unless you hire me as a
consultant I will tell that your fish is radioactive. Thus he became a
consultant and today he is very rich.
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it in numbers, you know something about it, but when you
cannot express it in numbers your knowledge about is of
a meagre and unsatisfactory kind."
--William Thomson (Lord Kelvin).

In article ,
Jo Stein writes:
Bellona is not a good source if you want to learn about radiation
and its hazards. All fish are less radioactive than you.

The only problem with nuclear waste in the Sea is the blackmail from the
environmentalists. Bellona makes a lot of money from it.
Frederic Hauge met at the yearly conference for the fishing industry in
Norway and told in very direct words that unless you hire me as a
consultant I will tell that your fish is radioactive. Thus he became a
consultant and today he is very rich.

Oh, thanks for that.

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On 24/01/2013 11:47, polygonum wrote:
On 24/01/2013 11:36, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
Mike Tomlinson writes:

Talk about ****ting in your own backyard.


As you do. Over late breakfast. :-)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

Not sure why this is particularly newsworthy now - it's been known
for decades there's loads of nuclear junk there. Also in some of
the former USSR countries which have no money to deal with the
legacy they've been left with.

There are a thousand or so abandoned/lost/stolen thermal decay reacters
which were used to power lighthouses. Theives often cut them up with
angle griders for the scrap metal, and die a few days later. Even
the authorities have dropped several in failed salvage attempts,
only to watch them melt their way into the ice and dissappear from
sight.
http://bellona.no/bellona.org/englis...ncidents/31772



Agree with Andrew, why is it a story today and not yesterday, or any
other time in the past goodness knows how many years?

ISTM, because they are now exploring how to do something about it.

Colin Bignell

In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes

Not sure why this is particularly newsworthy now

Because they're about to start drilling for oil in that region, and
presumably might disturb something?

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On 24.01.2013 13:44, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Jo Stein
writes:
Bellona is not a good source if you want to learn about radiation
and its hazards. All fish are less radioactive than you.

The only problem with nuclear waste in the Sea is the blackmail
from the environmentalists. Bellona makes a lot of money from it.
Frederic Hauge met at the yearly conference for the fishing
industry in Norway and told in very direct words that unless you
hire me as a consultant I will tell that your fish is radioactive.
Thus he became a consultant and today he is very rich.

Oh, thanks for that.

More important is this old news found in the Norwegian version
of Wikipedia and translated by me:
On the way to a conference in 1989 with Morten Harket, Hauge was
arrested in Osaka, Japan after customs officials found six grams of
hashish in his cigarette pack. The case was later dismissed. [2] In
2006, Hauge enough again arrested, this time after a police dog was
aware of ten grams of hashish in his pockets, the Poles festival
outside Larvik. [3] [4] This time was Hauge fined of ten
thousand kroner for storage.
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jo
"La vérité est en marche et rien ne l'arrêtera."
-- Emile Zola,"J'accuse ...", 1898.

On Jan 24, 2:08*pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes

Not sure why this is particularly newsworthy now

Because they're about to start drilling for oil in that region, and
presumably might disturb something?

The oil probably.

MBQ

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:35:29 AM UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

This has been known for years - the Bellona.no site has excellent coverage of it, in English too.

The Russians didn't do anything the West didn't do, but they did it on a sea coast with bad weather, rather than a dry desert, and they also did it on a rather bigger scale.

On 24.01.2013 21:16, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:35:29 AM UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21119774

This has been known for years - the Bellona.no site has excellent
coverage of it, in English too.

The Russians didn't do anything the West didn't do, but they did it
on a sea coast with bad weather, rather than a dry desert, and they
also did it on a rather bigger scale.

Here the scale does not matter because
fish has no lungs and then
fish do not smoke.

Fish also do not eat dumped reactors and
is very well protected as 10 cm of water
reduces gamma-radiation by 50%.

Men do smoke and can then be damaged by
smoke and radon.
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jo
"Some people will do anything to save the Earth,
except taking a science course" P.J. O'Rourke