Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
ARW wrote:
One swallow doesn't make a summer. I've come across qualified
sparks who won't touch steel conduit - they get an expert in. Of
course if you were apprenticed to a firm who used it heavily,
you'd be expected to learn the skills.

I have worked with it twice in the last 20 years.

The firm I sub for has someone who uses it almost on a daily basis.

I can honestly say most of the apprentices are better with steel
counduit than me after they have spent a week working with this guy.
Sure it's taught in college but that is not the same thing as
working on site.

Quite. Apart from everything else, the equipment to work it is both
bulky and expensive. You also need a stock of all the bits and pieces.

Equipment that I do not own.

I'll stick to my domestic works and he can stick to his conduit/commercial
work.


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Adam

"John Williamson" wrote in message
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Mr Pounder wrote:
"ARW" wrote in message

Now the one that tried to take a van into the underground car park that
he was told not to use and ripped the roof off the van did get a
bollocking.

I can't understand why you have so many problems with apprentices.
Please tell me it is still not like this in your area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJxGi8bizEg

They got the NHS right...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxZOFgYFsA

They are white, speak English and thus are no longer eligible to work for
the NHS.
I am not a racist.

On 20/01/2013 18:09, ARW wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:23:35 -0000, ARW wrote:

The apprentice that took the ladders off my van yesterday was
nearly in tears due to the cold and the ice on the ladders and
ladder clamps. I suggested that he should wear gloves.

He he, and you being a spark they would be glassfibre and thus
warm ladders compared to aluminium ones.

3 stage aluminium ladders:-)

And the gloves are free because they are PPE. He only had to walk
into the office and ask for a pair - and he should know that - it's
one of the first things we teach them.

Since he's working for you, or should I say your responsibility,
shouldn't you also have had a duty to ensure he had PPE and was using them?

Fredxx wrote:
On 20/01/2013 18:09, ARW wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 13:23:35 -0000, ARW wrote:

The apprentice that took the ladders off my van yesterday was
nearly in tears due to the cold and the ice on the ladders and
ladder clamps. I suggested that he should wear gloves.

He he, and you being a spark they would be glassfibre and thus
warm ladders compared to aluminium ones.

3 stage aluminium ladders:-)

And the gloves are free because they are PPE. He only had to walk
into the office and ask for a pair - and he should know that - it's
one of the first things we teach them.

Since he's working for you, or should I say your responsibility,
shouldn't you also have had a duty to ensure he had PPE and was using
them?

As he was not in a dangerous situation, then no.

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Adam