All surplus to requirements:

Countdown to Mathematics, Vol. 1 and 2
These are part of the OU mathematics course, and, from a quick google,
are still used. ISBN 0201137305 & 0201137313

The Mathmatics Primer. K.R.Coombes et al. Probably of little use, was
for Mathematica 2 IIRC, gives a breakdown of functions, and how-tos for
Mathematica in Mac (classic) OS and Win 95. ISBN0521637155

Mathematics for engineers and scientists. K.Weltner et al. Pretty good,
advanced book. ISBN 0859501205


Foundation Maths. A. Croft & R.Davison. Pretty good 'basic to advanced'
maths book. ISBN 058223185-x

Free, but I would like a donation for the postage, or collect from here,
just south of Leicester

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,

No ****, sherlock. This IS Usenet, after all - the refuge of the over 40
crowd. I reckon it's been decades since anyone here studied maths. Or
wanted to.

Free, but I would like a donation for the postage, or collect from here,
just south of Leicester

Your sig is busted, along with your from line.

Thomas wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,

No ****, sherlock. This IS Usenet, after all - the refuge of the over 40
crowd. I reckon it's been decades since anyone here studied maths. Or
wanted to.

See, this is why it is easier to just throw something away, rather than
making an effort to, maybe, helping someone out with free goods, there
is always someone ready to berate somebody for no reason.

Free, but I would like a donation for the postage, or collect from here,
just south of Leicester

Your sig is busted, along with your from line.

Really?
Why's that?
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:52:31 -0800, wrote:

Thomas wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,

No ****, sherlock. This IS Usenet, after all - the refuge of the over 40
crowd. I reckon it's been decades since anyone here studied maths. Or
wanted to.

See, this is why it is easier to just throw something away, rather than
making an effort to, maybe, helping someone out with free goods, there
is always someone ready to berate somebody for no reason.

As noted, this is USENET. It's what we're here for.

Free, but I would like a donation for the postage, or collect from
here,
just south of Leicester

Your sig is busted, along with your from line.

Really?
Why's that?

OK, perhaps not busted, but blank. Perhaps it's my newsreader, but even if
I wanted the books, I have no idea who you are, or how to find you.

wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

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wrote:

I have just had the eldest of the grandchildren and parents
round for the obligatory pre xmas meet and have been learning about how
they teach sums to 5 year olds these days. A bit different from the
learn by rote and learn it right or you get pain which was the norm in my
day.

Yeah, but we've got the abacus now, haven't we.

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Thomas wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,

No ****, sherlock. This IS Usenet, after all - the refuge of the over
40 crowd. I reckon it's been decades since anyone here studied maths.
Or wanted to.

Bet you have a wank when watching Carol Vorderman;-)

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On 23/12/2012 16:14, Thomas wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,

No ****, sherlock. This IS Usenet, after all - the refuge of the over 40
crowd. I reckon it's been decades since anyone here studied maths. Or
wanted to.

Ah, a charm donor...

Free, but I would like a donation for the postage, or collect from here,
just south of Leicester

Your sig is busted, along with your from line.

His sig is fine, and the from line is supposed to be busted, read the
instructions in the sig.

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On Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:23:01 PM UTC, ogden wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Sadly it is shriveling, if not disappearing entirely. Have you seen the fees for it now?

wrote:

ogden wrote:

wrote:

I have just had the eldest of the grandchildren and parents
round for the obligatory pre xmas meet and have been learning about how
they teach sums to 5 year olds these days. A bit different from the
learn by rote and learn it right or you get pain which was the norm in my
day.

Yeah, but we've got the abacus now, haven't we.

For all the good the inaccurate civilian versions will do you.

Heh.

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:23:01 -0000, ogden wrote:

wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.

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"PipL" wrote in message
...
OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.

Yebbut, the futurelearn initiative starting next year is free...

http://www.futurelearn.com/



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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:14:15 -0000, "rick"
wrote:


"PipL" wrote in message
.. .
OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.

Yebbut, the futurelearn initiative starting next year is free...

http://www.futurelearn.com/

"...a combined and coherent offer for students..."

What's that when it's at home, then?
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"PipL" wrote in message
...
http://www.futurelearn.com/

"...a combined and coherent offer for students..."

What's that when it's at home, then?

It's all to do with this ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course

.... the future of education apparently.



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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:33:19 -0800, John Rumm
wrote:

On 23/12/2012 16:14, Thomas wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,


Your sig is busted, along with your from line.

His sig is fine, and the from line is supposed to be busted, read the
instructions in the sig.

See up there ^? The line below where it says "Thomas wrote"? Where it says
"On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:"?

If I saw a "+" anywhere, I might change it to a "plus," but I don't. When
I hit reply to sender, the address field is blank.

FWIW, I'm using Opera.

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:33:17 -0800, ARW
wrote:


Bet you have a wank when watching Carol Vorderman;-)

Who? googles
Nah, mebbe 30 years ago. I prefer more hardcore stuff nowadays.
http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/19693000...154dd3e005.jpg

SFW? That kinda depends where you work, doesn't it?

wrote:

Thomas wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:

Probably of little use,

No ****, sherlock. This IS Usenet, after all - the refuge of the over
40 crowd. I reckon it's been decades since anyone here studied maths.
Or wanted to.

Bet you have a wank when watching Carol Vorderman;-)

Rachel Riley, more like.

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On 23/12/2012 20:33, Thomas wrote:

See up there ^? The line below where it says "Thomas wrote"? Where it says
"On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:17:03 -0800, wrote:"?

If I saw a "+" anywhere, I might change it to a "plus," but I don't.
When I hit reply to sender, the address field is blank.

FWIW, I'm using Opera.

I guess that would be why then...

Looks fine from here.


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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:06:17 +0000 PipL wrote :
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:23:01 -0000, ogden wrote:

wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student. Cost £50 per module
(x18=£900). How many OU modules make a degree?

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Tony Bryer wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:06:17 +0000 PipL wrote :
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:23:01 -0000, ogden wrote:

wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student. Cost £50 per module
(x18=£900). How many OU modules make a degree?

IIRC, when I did it (OU), it was 120 points. Some modules were 15
points, the majority ( a years study) were 30 points. Cost around
£150/yr then ~1999.
Some were rather more expensive, anything that required course materials
and experimentation (chemistry?) were ridiculously expensive then.
Popular ones like maths were the cheapest, one tutorial a week where 20+
people attended, you were given a sheaf of papers, and left to get on
with it yourself.

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On 23/12/2012 22:26, ogden wrote:
Rachel Riley, more like.

Who?

fx googles

FFS I've got children that age!

Andy

A.Lee wrote:
Tony Bryer wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:06:17 +0000 PipL wrote :
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:23:01 -0000, ogden wrote:

wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student. Cost £50 per module
(x18=£900). How many OU modules make a degree?

IIRC, when I did it (OU), it was 120 points. Some modules were 15
points, the majority ( a years study) were 30 points. Cost around
£150/yr then ~1999.
Some were rather more expensive, anything that required course materials
and experimentation (chemistry?) were ridiculously expensive then.
Popular ones like maths were the cheapest, one tutorial a week where 20+
people attended, you were given a sheaf of papers, and left to get on
with it yourself.

It's 360 points for if you have no credit courses. The 360 points can be
earned by completing 60 or 30 point courses. At the rate of one full 60
point course per year it's six years of study.

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On 24/12/2012 13:34, Nige Danton wrote:
IIRC, when I did it (OU), it was 120 points. Some modules were 15
points, the majority ( a years study) were 30 points. Cost around
£150/yr then ~1999.

I seem to remember it was credits rather than points when I did mine
(1972 -1975) but memory may be playing tricks!

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F news@nowhere wrote:
On 24/12/2012 13:34, Nige Danton wrote:
IIRC, when I did it (OU), it was 120 points. Some modules were 15
points, the majority ( a years study) were 30 points. Cost around
£150/yr then ~1999.

I seem to remember it was credits rather than points when I did mine
(1972 -1975) but memory may be playing tricks!

No, your memory is correct. The system was changed from full and half
credit courses to 60 and 30 points.

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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:01:00 +0000, F wrote:

On 24/12/2012 13:34, Nige Danton wrote:
IIRC, when I did it (OU), it was 120 points. Some modules were 15
points, the majority ( a years study) were 30 points. Cost around
£150/yr then ~1999.

I seem to remember it was credits rather than points when I did mine
(1972 -1975) but memory may be playing tricks!

Credits is the term used by most places, since they are mean tto be
interchangeable.


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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 13:33:56 +0000, boots wrote:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:56:07 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, Andy Champ
says:

On 23/12/2012 22:26, ogden wrote:
Rachel Riley, more like.

Who?

fx googles

FFS I've got children that age!

She appears to be an adult woman so what's the issue? FWIW I've got
children older.

She's 27 next month. Old enough.



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On 23/12/2012 20:06, PipL wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 18:23:01 -0000, ogden wrote:

wrote:

OU is a disappearing part of UK culture.

******** is it.

Have you seen the prices they charge now?

£1250 for a 30 point module.


Considerably less than any other UK university.

They will have a virtual (pardon pun) monopoly of 'proper degree'
distance learning. That's the way it's going for an increasing number
not willing/able to pay the post-2012 rates, and not wanting FT or PT
campus-based education.

Rob

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:52:55 +1100, Tony Bryer
wrote in :

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student.

Thinking of forming a Brunel team for next year's Christmas
University Challenge -- that's you, me, and Jo Brand; who else is a Brunel
graduate/faculty[umbrella]?

[umbrella] Nominating Will Self would probably go down as overkill.

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On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:36:59 +0000, Huge wrote:

On 2012-12-25, Ivan D. Reid wrote:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:52:55 +1100, Tony Bryer

wrote in :

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student.

Thinking of forming a Brunel team for next year's Christmas
University Challenge -- that's you, me, and Jo Brand; who else is a
Brunel graduate/faculty[umbrella]?

[umbrella] Nominating Will Self would probably go down as overkill.

"Will Self" and "overkill" are words that normally go together quite
well in my book.

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"Ivan D. Reid" wrote in
k:

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:52:55 +1100, Tony Bryer

wrote in :

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student.

Thinking of forming a Brunel team for next year's Christmas
University Challenge -- that's you, me, and Jo Brand; who else is a
Brunel graduate/faculty[umbrella]?

[umbrella] Nominating Will Self would probably go down as overkill.


Tony Adams - if you aren't winning he'll nobble the opposition

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:52:55 +1100, Tony Bryer
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:06:17 +0000 PipL wrote :
£1250 for a 30 point module.

Wow - I was fortunate to do my second degree (1991-96) at West London
Institute - Brunel as a PT mature student. Cost £50 per module
(x18=£900). How many OU modules make a degree?

It's based on points: some modules are worth more, some less, though the cost
appears to be directly proportional to the points score (soa 60 point module
is £2500, for example). ISTR it's 300 for a Plain Jane degree, 360 with
honours.
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