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Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and
also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? TIA |
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On 09/08/2012 19:22, Dave wrote:
Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? TIA I have something unbranded but similar looking, and a smaller cheaper version (no laser). I think they would be fine for CPU temperatures, they are also good for balancing radiators. I stick a bit of black PVC tape on the valve when doing this in the belief it should improve the accuracy. For most purposes you don't need absolute accuracy to less than a couple of degrees. In theory results should be less reliable on shiny metal surfaces (google emissivity for more details). If you were using it (say) for process control where accuracy was important you could always calibrate it against a thermocouple (and then you would have to decide whether you need a calibrated thermocouple). My guess is that they might have similar errors to cheap thermistor based devices. But they go up to much higher temperatures. |
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newshound laid this down on his screen :
On 09/08/2012 19:22, Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? TIA I have something unbranded but similar looking, and a smaller cheaper version (no laser). I think they would be fine for CPU temperatures, they are also good for balancing radiators. I stick a bit of black PVC tape on the valve when doing this in the belief it should improve the accuracy. For most purposes you don't need absolute accuracy to less than a couple of degrees. In theory results should be less reliable on shiny metal surfaces (google emissivity for more details). If you were using it (say) for process control where accuracy was important you could always calibrate it against a thermocouple (and then you would have to decide whether you need a calibrated thermocouple). My guess is that they might have similar errors to cheap thermistor based devices. But they go up to much higher temperatures. Cheers Newshound, I think I'll treat myself tomorrow then lol |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:22:41 +0100, Dave wrote:
I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? Have a look at www.chinavision.com 2 types, £10 or £16. I've otrdered a few bits from them, decent quality and cheap cheap cheap. Chinese sense of humour too... If I use this IR thermometer to take someone's temperature, will they feel anything? No, absolutely nothing. They will not even know you are taking their temperature. Is this thermometer safe? Yes. This thermometer uses infrared to read temperatures, which is perfectly safe. Just make sure that you don't shine the laser into anyone's eye! If you want to measure the temperature of someone's eye, please use a different device. http://www.chinavasion.com/qsh5/ Advanced Non-Contact Infrared Thermometer with Laser Targeting and Emissivity Adjustment http://www.chinavasion.com/wwgh/ Non-Contact Infrared Thermometer with Laser Targeting/LCD Display |
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Dave wrote:
Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? Best cat toy you will ever buy:-) If you are not in a rush to buy one Maplins often do half price sales on them. Paid about £20 for mine. -- Adam |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:01:07 +0100, Simon Cee wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:22:41 +0100, Dave wrote: I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? Have a look at www.chinavision.com Oops, that should be www.chinavasion.com |
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Tim Streater explained :
In article , Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? Was there some reason you were unable to look it up? Yes. I'm thick. Rather than read lots of confusing big words, I just wanted someone to say yes, these are good little gadgets or no, they're a waste of money. Or for someone to say, that's not a bad one but this one is better. |
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On 09/08/2012 21:15, ARWadsworth wrote:
Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? Best cat toy you will ever buy:-) If you are not in a rush to buy one Maplins often do half price sales on them. Paid about £20 for mine. Good call, I think my little one may have come from there. Maplins have a load of stuff on offer at the moment anyway. But you probably *do* want one with a laser to check CPUs. |
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On 09/08/2012 19:22, Dave wrote:
Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? Some surfaces radiate better than others. So when making an estimate of the temperature based on the IR being emitted the device has to take this into question. The cheaper meters will make a fixed assumption about this. They work well on most surfaces, but will be fooled by reflective things and shiny metal etc. o you could read the temperature of a radiator for example, but would not get a sensible reading from the pipework or valve's body. I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. Hence one with adjustable emissivity might be handy since you could be looking at unpainted heatsinks. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 Looks fine. Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? I have a simpler one that works well, but would not be as well suited to your application. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 09/08/2012 22:46, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Dave wrote: Tim Streater explained : In article , Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? Was there some reason you were unable to look it up? Yes. I'm thick. Rather than read lots of confusing big words, I just wanted someone to say yes, these are good little gadgets or no, they're a waste of money. Or for someone to say, that's not a bad one but this one is better. :-) John's explained about emissivity (but I still think you could have got that info yourself). While he's right that a variable emissivity device will be useful in more situations, generally you can take emissivity to be 0.95, fixed, which is what the cheaper devices do. This covers most surfaces except shiny ones, so you'll get a decent result off a rad painted black or white, but not a shiny chrome one. Although black dry marker pen is reasonably effective and reversible as a way to make the emissivity non-metalic. Though you can sometimes be unlucky and find a surface that has pores and marks permanently with dry marker. Basically any shiny metal behaves to some extent as a reflector of IR wavelengths. Most resin paints and common materials are black in the thermal IR including glass windows. Regards, Martin Brown |
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Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity and does it need to be adjustable? Depends on what you want to used the IR thermometer for. I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. Then you don't need to have one that does adjustable emissivity. But you are much better off using the inbuilt sensors to measure the temps and monitor those with something like Everest. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? |
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"Rod Speed" wrote:
Dave wrote Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emissivity and does it need to be adjustable? Depends on what you want to used the IR thermometer for. Wodney Speed - self appointed Expert in Everything. Master of **** all. |
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newshound writes On 09/08/2012 21:15, ARWadsworth wrote: Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...546.xml&sku=IN 05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? Best cat toy you will ever buy:-) If you are not in a rush to buy one Maplins often do half price sales on them. Paid about £20 for mine. Good call, I think my little one may have come from there. Maplins have a load of stuff on offer at the moment anyway. But you probably *do* want one with a laser to check CPUs. I'm sure mine was from Maplin when on special, was def under 20quid _and_ has a laser. Haven't seen them at those prices (either at Maplin or CPC) for ages though. -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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writes Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for £43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...46.xml&sku=IN0 5457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than £60, but preferably £50 or less? Best cat toy you will ever buy:-) Aaaaand you can see how hot and bothered the cat is getting . . . -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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Steve Firth wrote just
the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. |
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Rod Speed wrote:
Steve Firth wrote just the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. Rodney. Why don't you shut the **** up? Do you enjoy making yourself look like the dumbarse you are each time you post to usenet? |
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Steve Firth wrote just
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On 09/08/2012 22:46, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Dave wrote: Tim Streater explained : In article , Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? Was there some reason you were unable to look it up? Yes. I'm thick. Rather than read lots of confusing big words, I just wanted someone to say yes, these are good little gadgets or no, they're a waste of money. Or for someone to say, that's not a bad one but this one is better. :-) John's explained about emissivity (but I still think you could have got that info yourself). While he's right that a variable emissivity device will be useful in more situations, generally you can take emissivity to be 0.95, fixed, which is what the cheaper devices do. This covers most surfaces except shiny ones, so you'll get a decent result off a rad painted black or white, but not a shiny chrome one. Worth noting that if you do want a reading of something metal and shiny, then sticking a bit of tape on it will usually suffice to get a reading. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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En el artículo
nal-september.org, Steve Firth escribió: Wodney Speed - self appointed Expert in Everything. Master of **** all. Always worth an occasional pointer to the WodneyFAQ, Steve. Rod Speed FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/883xp7v RodBot: http://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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Steve Firth wrote:
Rod Speed wrote: Steve Firth wrote just the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. Rodney. Why don't you shut the **** up? Do you enjoy making yourself look like the dumbarse you are each time you post to usenet? It must do, it's been doing it for at least 15 years. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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John Williamson wrote
Steve Firth wrote Rod Speed wrote Steve Firth wrote just the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. Rodney. Why don't you shut the **** up? Do you enjoy making yourself look like the dumbarse you are each time you post to usenet? It must do, it's been doing it for at least 15 years. Been ****ing over fools like you two for a hell of a lot longer than that, ****wit. |
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Rod Speed wrote:
Steve Firth wrote just the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. Rodney. Why don't you shut the **** up? Do you enjoy making yourself look like the dumbarse you are each time you post to usenet? |
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Rod Speed wrote:
John Williamson wrote Steve Firth wrote Rod Speed wrote Steve Firth wrote just the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. Rodney. Why don't you shut the **** up? Do you enjoy making yourself look like the dumbarse you are each time you post to usenet? It must do, it's been doing it for at least 15 years. I've been a ****ed over fool for a hell of a lot longer than that. I'm a card carrying ****wit. Sadly true. Any chance of you growing up before another 15 years is over? |
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On 09/08/2012 22:54, Martin Brown wrote:
Basically any shiny metal behaves to some extent as a reflector of IR wavelengths. Most resin paints and common materials are black in the thermal IR including glass windows. Regards, Martin Brown I'd love to find a reference for your comments on paints. I have a work job at the moment where this is a very real issue. IR spectra by ATR show relatively narrow absorption bands with high transmission in between. These are paints on blast cleaned (i.e. rough) steel. Are we getting absorption at the metal-paint interface? Coating thickness is 200 - 250 microns, two pack epoxy and polysiloxane "white" paint. TIA Steve |
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On 10/08/2012 08:50, newshound wrote:
On 09/08/2012 22:54, Martin Brown wrote: Basically any shiny metal behaves to some extent as a reflector of IR wavelengths. Most resin paints and common materials are black in the thermal IR including glass windows. Regards, Martin Brown I'd love to find a reference for your comments on paints. I have a work It is a slight over simplification but basically true for most paints. Work in this area is not much in the open literature but some is for the paints used on major observatory domes. Brief intro here a few searches on ADS abstracts should get you more detail: http://www.umich.edu/~lowbrows/refle...1/tryan.5.html Basically the old way was to use extremely white paint to keep solar heat out of big observatory domes. Now they use a cunning mix of white and aluminium to get thermaly neutral paint at night. Otherwise the dome surface supercools to the night sky and cold air drips in through the open dome slit producing local severe turbulence in the seeing. Other variants include base coat clear technology where the undercoat is shiny metallic to reflect most light and the top coat varnish is as close to being black in the thermal IR band as they can make it. Another intro: http://www.pcimag.com/articles/intro...ctive-pigments There are military applications to adjusting your thermal IR emission signature. job at the moment where this is a very real issue. IR spectra by ATR show relatively narrow absorption bands with high transmission in between. These are paints on blast cleaned (i.e. rough) steel. Are we getting absorption at the metal-paint interface? Coating thickness is 200 - 250 microns, two pack epoxy and polysiloxane "white" paint. Is the white TiO2 pigment? I am a physicist and not a proper chemist but I can ask my wife who is tonight. I have no experience with ATR. Asking your paint supplier tech support is probably your best bet. Regards, Martin Brown |
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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... En el artículo nal-september.org, Steve Firth escribió: Wodney Speed - self appointed Expert in Everything. Master of **** all. Always worth an occasional pointer to the WodneyFAQ, Steve. Rod Speed FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/883xp7v RodBot: http://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed It's high time the dickhead ****ed off out of here. |
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On 10/08/2012 09:34, Martin Brown wrote:
On 10/08/2012 08:50, newshound wrote: On 09/08/2012 22:54, Martin Brown wrote: Basically any shiny metal behaves to some extent as a reflector of IR wavelengths. Most resin paints and common materials are black in the thermal IR including glass windows. Regards, Martin Brown I'd love to find a reference for your comments on paints. I have a work It is a slight over simplification but basically true for most paints. Work in this area is not much in the open literature but some is for the paints used on major observatory domes. Brief intro here a few searches on ADS abstracts should get you more detail: http://www.umich.edu/~lowbrows/refle...1/tryan.5.html Basically the old way was to use extremely white paint to keep solar heat out of big observatory domes. Now they use a cunning mix of white and aluminium to get thermaly neutral paint at night. Otherwise the dome surface supercools to the night sky and cold air drips in through the open dome slit producing local severe turbulence in the seeing. Other variants include base coat clear technology where the undercoat is shiny metallic to reflect most light and the top coat varnish is as close to being black in the thermal IR band as they can make it. Another intro: http://www.pcimag.com/articles/intro...ctive-pigments There are military applications to adjusting your thermal IR emission signature. job at the moment where this is a very real issue. IR spectra by ATR show relatively narrow absorption bands with high transmission in between. These are paints on blast cleaned (i.e. rough) steel. Are we getting absorption at the metal-paint interface? Coating thickness is 200 - 250 microns, two pack epoxy and polysiloxane "white" paint. Is the white TiO2 pigment? I am a physicist and not a proper chemist but I can ask my wife who is tonight. I have no experience with ATR. Asking your paint supplier tech support is probably your best bet. Regards, Martin Brown Thanks, that is fascinating. I hadn't thought about observatory domes before. We are looking at "off the shelf" industrial paints where solar heating is sometimes of interest, but IR performance doesn't normally matter. Last time this came up the client had some emissivity measurements done at Cardiff. The suppliers are a bit coy about their formulations; I'd expect the top coats to contain plenty of TiO2, but when I get some samples I will pop them in an SEM! Steve |
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Rod Speed wrote:
I've been a ****ed over fool for a hell of a lot longer than that. I'm a card carrying ****wit. We know Wodney, we know. You've been told to FOAD by more famous people than I. What stops you taking the excellent advice that you have been given? |
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Steve Firth wrote just the puerile **** that it always ends up with when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as it ALWAYS is. One wonders how one "gets done like a dinner"? Does it mean that I am dressed in fine linen, set about with shiny flatware and served with fine wines? Meanwhle... which bit of Italy did you visit Wodders? Was it Sydney or Gladstone? |
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On 11/08/2012 13:28, Steve Firth wrote:
Rod Speed wrote: I've been a ****ed over fool for a hell of a lot longer than that. I'm a card carrying ****wit. We know Wodney, we know. You've been told to FOAD by more famous people than I. What stops you taking the excellent advice that you have been given? I, for one, am losing the will to live. Why do you people seem to delight in ruining the enjoyment of serious readers and posters to this and other newsgroups by continuously engaging in petty attacks on others? It is behaviour more suited to the school playground and it is boring. This particular thread was of great interest to me personally but, yet again, it is being ruined and useful posts on the subject will now be lost amongst the purile postings of those hell-bent on showing how small their minds really are! This newsgroup used to be a place where useful information was available to those in need of help with DIY problems or projects but, the pathetic childlike attempts to belittle others simply ruins it for everyone. Is it envy or the need to show how big they are that drives the small core of attackers on this newsgroup? Why don't you all ignore the TROLLS and if you disagree with what someone posts either ignore it or respond constructively and move on to something more interesting and productive. I know my post will attract the same pathetic bullying responses from the same small minded, ignorant people but, I rest easy in the knowledge that the sane, intelligent users of this newsgroup will agree with my sentiments. -- Phamer |
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On 13/08/12 09:45, Phamer wrote:
On 11/08/2012 13:28, Steve Firth wrote: Rod Speed wrote: I've been a ****ed over fool for a hell of a lot longer than that. I'm a card carrying ****wit. We know Wodney, we know. You've been told to FOAD by more famous people than I. What stops you taking the excellent advice that you have been given? I, for one, am losing the will to live. Why do you people seem to delight in ruining the enjoyment of serious readers and posters to this and other newsgroups by continuously engaging in petty attacks on others? It is behaviour more suited to the school playground and it is boring. This particular thread was of great interest to me personally but, yet again, it is being ruined and useful posts on the subject will now be lost amongst the purile postings of those hell-bent on showing how small their minds really are! This newsgroup used to be a place where useful information was available to those in need of help with DIY problems or projects but, the pathetic childlike attempts to belittle others simply ruins it for everyone. Is it envy or the need to show how big they are that drives the small core of attackers on this newsgroup? Why don't you all ignore the TROLLS and if you disagree with what someone posts either ignore it or respond constructively and move on to something more interesting and productive. I know my post will attract the same pathetic bullying responses from the same small minded, ignorant people but, I rest easy in the knowledge that the sane, intelligent users of this newsgroup will agree with my sentiments. +1 -- djc |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:45:27 +0100, Phamer
wrote: I know my post will attract the same pathetic bullying responses from the same small minded, ignorant people The trick is to killfile Rod and his like permanently, and k/f for 48 hours the responders to him. It's amazing how sane the group becomes. |
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Phamer wrote:
[snip overlong rant] I know my post will attract the same pathetic bullying responses from the same small minded, ignorant people but, I rest easy in the knowledge that the sane, intelligent users of this newsgroup will agree with my sentiments. And... Relax. I assume that you can spot the hypocrisy that your rant represents? If you don't want to see the posts that you complain about use your kill file. |
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2012, "Phamer" writ:
This newsgroup used to be a place where useful information was available to those in need of help with DIY problems or projects but, the pathetic childlike attempts to belittle others simply ruins it for everyone. Is it envy or the need to show how big they are that drives the small core of attackers on this newsgroup? Why don't you all ignore the TROLLS and if you disagree with what someone posts either ignore it or respond constructively and move on to something more interesting and productive. I know my post will attract the same pathetic bullying responses from the same small minded, ignorant people but, I rest easy in the knowledge that the sane, intelligent users of this newsgroup will agree with my sentiments. Totally agree with your comments. A voice of sanity at last. I kill-file the muppets but people insist on quoting them so I end up seeing the drivel they write anyway :0( -- P |
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On 8/13/2012 3:45 AM, Phamer wrote:
This particular thread was of great interest to me personally but, yet again, it is being ruined and useful posts on the subject will now be lost amongst the purile postings of those hell-bent on showing how small their minds really are! Use your killfile. |
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On 8/13/2012 4:30 AM, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:45:27 +0100, Phamer wrote: I know my post will attract the same pathetic bullying responses from the same small minded, ignorant people The trick is to killfile Rod and his like permanently, and k/f for 48 hours the responders to him. It's amazing how sane the group becomes. +1 |
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On Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:15:28 PM UTC+1, wrote:
Dave wrote: Looking to buy an infrared thermometer without breaking the bank and also without knowing exactly what I'm looking at - for instance, what is "emissivity" and does it need to be adjustable? I'm sure that these are the sort of things that are bought for one purpose but actually end up being used for dozens of things and I'm sure I'll find loads of uses for it, but my main use at the moment would be to monitor temperatures of GPUs and CPUs on laptop motherboards. I live about a mile away from CPC in Preston and have seen this one for �43 inc VAT: http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...ml&sku=IN05457 or http://tinyurl.com/bp2p5wd Anyone have experience of them? Good? Bad? Anything better for absolutely no more than �60, but preferably �50 or less? Best cat toy you will ever buy:-) Yep I'll support that if fact that's pretty much all mines used for now. Brought from Maplin for about £25. If you are not in a rush to buy one Maplins often do half price sales on them. Paid about �20 for mine. -- Adam |
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