It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

On 20/01/2012 18:00, ARWadsworth wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

Did he mind?


That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

If Typhoo put the T in Britain, who put the ....

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Jan 20, 6:00*pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.

The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:00, ARWadsworth wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

Did he mind?

Was he asked?


--
Adam

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.


We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 20/01/2012 20:04, ARWadsworth wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:00, ARWadsworth wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

Did he mind?

Was he asked?


I used to play cards at school with a guy called Khan. This being a
largely white area we all called him Ghengis. He said he quite liked it.

Andy

On Jan 20, 6:00*pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

I came across a black Joe. He was white Anglo Saxon but didn't wash
much.

dave wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:02:04 -0800 (PST), cynic
wrote:

On Jan 20, 6:00 pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

I came across a black Joe. He was white Anglo Saxon but didn't wash
much.

The racists have put a stop to all that!

Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.

Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in malice of
course).

There's an old chinese insult for whiteys - Bai Gui which literally means
"White Ghost".

I'd find it most amusing to be called that - not that anyone ever has...

OTOH, a passerby in Beijing referred to me as "American" and I was deeply
insulted...

--
Tim Watts

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:21:42 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.

We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

My last girlfriend, slightly bemused by the large number of Asian-run
newspaper shops in a small area, called them newsasians. I do like an
apposite neologism!
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

In article ,
PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:21:42 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.

We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

My last girlfriend, slightly bemused by the large number of Asian-run
newspaper shops in a small area, called them newsasians. I do like an
apposite neologism!


close to Tv Centre in the 60s was an asian run "Cash & Carry". It was
known as 'vendapaki'

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in
malice of course).

There's a big difference in nicknames used between friends and those used
as an insult to strangers. Even although the wording is the same.

--
*Why do overlook and oversee mean opposite things?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in
malice of course).

There's a big difference in nicknames used between friends and those used
as an insult to strangers. Even although the wording is the same.


True.
--
Tim Watts

On 21/01/2012 10:44, charles wrote:
In ,
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:21:42 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.

We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

My last girlfriend, slightly bemused by the large number of Asian-run
newspaper shops in a small area, called them newsasians. I do like an
apposite neologism!


close to Tv Centre in the 60s was an asian run "Cash& Carry". It was
known as 'vendapaki'

We have a local diamond drilling firm called Rahjinder & Sons Ltd.

The slogan on their van is "You have tried the cowboys, now try the
Indians!"



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:44:00 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 21/01/2012 10:44, charles wrote:
In ,
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:21:42 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.

We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

My last girlfriend, slightly bemused by the large number of Asian-run
newspaper shops in a small area, called them newsasians. I do like an
apposite neologism!


close to Tv Centre in the 60s was an asian run "Cash& Carry". It was
known as 'vendapaki'

We have a local diamond drilling firm called Rahjinder & Sons Ltd.

The slogan on their van is "You have tried the cowboys, now try the
Indians!"

That used to be the slogan of Scan (www.scan.co.uk) a computer part
supplier on the outskirts of Bradford or Bolton - can't remember which
now. Once went to collect (rather than courier) and 'Granny' was serving
behind the counter and boy did she know her stuff!

Nick

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:15:26 -0600, The Nomad wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:44:00 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 21/01/2012 10:44, charles wrote:
In ,
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:21:42 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack". It never worried him
in the least back then. He was of "mixed blood" actually, had
nothing to do with the subcontinent. I only found that out after
years.

We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

My last girlfriend, slightly bemused by the large number of Asian-run
newspaper shops in a small area, called them newsasians. I do like an
apposite neologism!


close to Tv Centre in the 60s was an asian run "Cash& Carry". It was
known as 'vendapaki'

We have a local diamond drilling firm called Rahjinder & Sons Ltd.

The slogan on their van is "You have tried the cowboys, now try the
Indians!"

That used to be the slogan of Scan (www.scan.co.uk) a computer part
supplier on the outskirts of Bradford or Bolton - can't remember which
now. Once went to collect (rather than courier) and 'Granny' was
serving behind the counter and boy did she know her stuff!

Years ago I needed a particular motherboard, and the nearest place I
could collect one was a firm in Frindsbury (Medway Handyman's patch).

I got there and all I could find was an Asian-run supermarket. I
eventually noticed a door to the right, to a partitioned off part of the
shop, where the owner's sons ran their PC business!



--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

On 1/21/2012 4:07 AM, Tim Watts wrote:

Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.

Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in malice of
course).

There's an old chinese insult for whiteys - Bai Gui which literally means
"White Ghost".

I'd find it most amusing to be called that - not that anyone ever has...

OTOH, a passerby in Beijing referred to me as "American" and I was deeply
insulted...

When my American niece was living in Beijing, she was often mistaken for
British...

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

- We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
- It never worried him in the least back then.
- He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
- subcontinent. I only found that out after years.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packie_Bonner


michael adams

....

"S Viemeister" wrote in message
...
On 1/21/2012 4:07 AM, Tim Watts wrote:

Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.

Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in malice
of
course).

When I was in the Philippines (Quezon City) a gang of about 10 started
shouting at me Americans go home - we don't want you in our country so I
said I don't want them in my country either. They used bases in England to
bomb other countries. We got on well after that but I made sure when
visiting that area again to wear my British Airways Tee shirt
Robbie
There's an old chinese insult for whiteys - Bai Gui which literally means
"White Ghost".

I'd find it most amusing to be called that - not that anyone ever has...

OTOH, a passerby in Beijing referred to me as "American" and I was deeply
insulted...

When my American niece was living in Beijing, she was often mistaken for
British...

There was a black electrcian and his young whte apprentice working
on a site where they were known as Black and Decker.

In article , Tim Watts
writes
Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.


Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.


Adrian
--
To Reply :
replace "news" with "adrian" and "nospam" with "ffoil"
Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops
Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:44:00 +0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 21/01/2012 10:44, charles wrote:
In ,
wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:21:42 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.

We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.

My last girlfriend, slightly bemused by the large number of Asian-run
newspaper shops in a small area, called them newsasians. I do like an
apposite neologism!


close to Tv Centre in the 60s was an asian run "Cash& Carry". It was
known as 'vendapaki'

We have a local diamond drilling firm called Rahjinder & Sons Ltd.

The slogan on their van is "You have tried the cowboys, now try the
Indians!"

I have seen that slogan a few times, not sure where.

The logo on the vans of Concrete Drilling Services (based in Bolton)
is uncannily like the visual aura I suffer from if I get stressed out.



--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In article ,
Adrian Simpson wrote:
A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

Nicknames given by work colleagues often ain't popular with the recipient.
Same as in the army. But the more they object, the more fun it becomes. So
best to just live with it until in a position to get your own back. ;-)

--
*Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 21/01/2012 13:33, michael adams wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

- We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
- It never worried him in the least back then.
- He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
- subcontinent. I only found that out after years.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packie_Bonner


michael adams

Yes, my wife's family is from the West of Ireland (and her dad was
called Patrick), so I was quite used to people calling out "Packie". She
has to remember what company she is in from time to time to avoid
causing offence.

SteveW

On 21/01/2012 09:07, Tim Watts wrote:
dave wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:02:04 -0800 (PST), cynic
wrote:

On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

I came across a black Joe. He was white Anglo Saxon but didn't wash
much.

The racists have put a stop to all that!

Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.

Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in malice of
course).

Yes. As a very young child my nephew and his parents were called into
the heads office, as he'd refered to "the black girl." It turned out
that he referred to another girl as "the red girl" - he didn't know
their names and was referring to their hair colour! Even if he had been
referring to skin colout, it is quite sensible to refer to a physical
attribute to identify someone - "he's the tall one over there; she's the
one with glasses; etc." what's so wrong with referring to skin colour.

There's an old chinese insult for whiteys - Bai Gui which literally means
"White Ghost".

I'd find it most amusing to be called that - not that anyone ever has...

OTOH, a passerby in Beijing referred to me as "American" and I was deeply
insulted...

As would be most of the world!

SteveW

On 21/01/2012 15:04, Adrian Simpson wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.


Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

One of circle of old school friends is a couple of years younger than
the rest of us, hence "little Rob." The name has stuck and he is quite
happy with it, depite being 6'2"

SteveW

On 21/01/2012 16:12, Steve Walker wrote:


Yes. As a very young child my nephew and his parents were called into
the heads office, as he'd refered to "the black girl." It turned out
that he referred to another girl as "the red girl" - he didn't know
their names and was referring to their hair colour! Even if he had been
referring to skin colout, it is quite sensible to refer to a physical
attribute to identify someone - "he's the tall one over there; she's the
one with glasses; etc." what's so wrong with referring to skin colour.


This about sums it up for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNV9w...eature=related

Steve Walker wrote:

On 21/01/2012 15:04, Adrian Simpson wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.


Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

One of circle of old school friends is a couple of years younger than
the rest of us, hence "little Rob." The name has stuck and he is quite
happy with it, depite being 6'2"

SteveW

Inverse humour (aka "Little John") is the least likely to offend. On that
basis, I should be called "Slim Tim" but I don't mind "Fat *******" either.
I suppose some people get offended more easily ;-

--
Tim Watts

In article , er-
family.me.uk says...

Yes. As a very young child my nephew and his parents were called into
the heads office, as he'd refered to "the black girl." It turned out
that he referred to another girl as "the red girl" - he didn't know
their names and was referring to their hair colour! Even if he had been
referring to skin colout, it is quite sensible to refer to a physical
attribute to identify someone - "he's the tall one over there; she's the
one with glasses; etc." what's so wrong with referring to skin colour.


Back in the 17th Century it was quite common to refer to "a black
woman" - meaning someone with black hair.

Even now we still talk about "a blond woman".


--
Sam

Adrian Simpson wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.


Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

What about Young Mr Grace?

Bill

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On 21/01/2012 15:04, Adrian Simpson wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.


Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

One of circle of old school friends is a couple of years younger than the
rest of us, hence "little Rob." The name has stuck and he is quite happy
with it, depite being 6'2"

SteveW

Yes that is true. I was in charge of a very multi-national shift in a
transport workshop and some of the names were very difficult to
pronounce.One chap had an Afgan name so will called him Fred when we shouted
for Fred, people would be surprised when he arrived also another called Dev
was of course Dave. We all got on together but between theirselves they
still retained their own traditional dislikes of each other and they call us
racist.....
Robbie.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:09:35 -0000, Plusnet wrote:

Back in the 17th Century it was quite common to refer to "a black
woman" - meaning someone with black hair.

Even now we still talk about "a blond woman".

"Black Irish" referred to jet-black hair and nothing to do with other
organs or Hiberno-Caribbean musicians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:19:16 +0000, wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:09:35 -0000, Plusnet wrote:

Back in the 17th Century it was quite common to refer to "a black
woman" - meaning someone with black hair.

Even now we still talk about "a blond woman".

"Black Irish" referred to jet-black hair and nothing to do with other
organs or Hiberno-Caribbean musicians.

Some in our office used to have fun at the expence of certain imigrants
by calling them on the internal phone from the other end of the office
and asking to speak to Isaac Hunt.

In article , says...

Adrian Simpson wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
writes
Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.


Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

What about Young Mr Grace?


Pitt the Younger would be 253 years old - if he were still around today.

--
Sam

In message , ARWadsworth
writes
The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 20/01/2012 18:00, ARWadsworth wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

Did he mind?

Was he asked?

I have a customer who always phones up saying "Its black dave
here ..."


--
geoff

In message , The Medway Handyman
writes
On 20/01/2012 19:11, harry wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

We had a labourer who was called "PakiJack".
It never worried him in the least back then.
He was of "mixed blood" actually, had nothing to do with the
subcontinent. I only found that out after years.


We have a Pakistani handyman locally - Jamal Fixit.


I had an indian come in last week who wasn't quite sure what he wanted,
"don't ask me, I'm just the bloke who does all the running around"

"Ah a goferwallah" I said

next day when he phoned up for something else ...

"Hello, it's the goferwallah here, I'm after a fan"



--
geoff

In message , Steve Walker
writes
On 21/01/2012 09:07, Tim Watts wrote:
dave wrote:

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:02:04 -0800 (PST), cynic
wrote:

On Jan 20, 6:00 pm,
wrote:
It was like travelling back 40 years in time.

The labourer was called "Black Dave".

That's the last time I work in S****horpe.

--
Adam

I came across a black Joe. He was white Anglo Saxon but didn't wash
much.

The racists have put a stop to all that!

Nobody minds if someone is called Big Dave, Little Pete etc.

Perhaps the mark of a mature society will be when you *can* call someone
"Black Dave" without everyone getting upset (assuming it is not in malice of
course).

Yes. As a very young child my nephew and his parents were called into
the heads office, as he'd refered to "the black girl." It turned out
that he referred to another girl as "the red girl" - he didn't know
their names and was referring to their hair colour! Even if he had been
referring to skin colout, it is quite sensible to refer to a physical
attribute to identify someone - "he's the tall one over there; she's
the one with glasses; etc." what's so wrong with referring to skin colour.

There's an old chinese insult for whiteys - Bai Gui which literally means
"White Ghost".

I'd find it most amusing to be called that - not that anyone ever has...

OTOH, a passerby in Beijing referred to me as "American" and I was deeply
insulted...

As would be most of the world!

Just think of those poor downtrodden scots (or porrigewogs as some
affectionately call them), they'll still be called "inggris" or whatever
in the local language



--
geoff

Plusnet wrote:
[snip]

Pitt the Younger would be 253 years old - if he were still around today.

He just changed his name to "Ed Milliband".

He's still the same snivelling snot rag used as a toast rack at school.

On 21/01/2012 19:09, Plusnet wrote:
Back in the 17th Century it was quite common to refer to "a black
woman" - meaning someone with black hair.

Even now we still talk about "a blond woman".

If you see a pub called "The Black Boy" it's probably King Charles (I
forget which) who was a little swarthy. I've seen some with pictures of
young African men in Moorish dress.

Andy

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:59:13 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Nicknames given by work colleagues often ain't popular with the
recipient. Same as in the army. But the more they object, the more fun
it becomes. So best to just live with it until in a position to get your
own back. ;-)

Kids are just the same with knicknames, best approach is to only make
a fuss about the one you like. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Jan 21, 3:04*pm, Adrian Simpson wrote:
Yes they do.

A few years back we had two Daves. *The second one to join was younger,
so got referred to as "young Dave", which after a while he started
objecting to on the grounds that he was 30. *Problem was solved when the
other Dave left.

Reminds me of the incomer to East Anglia who objected to being
referred to as "boy" (pronounced roughly "boor") until he worked out
that you only ceased to be a "boy" when you were sufficiently mature
to be an "old boy".