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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:27:52 +0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:


Fecking marvelous more blooming hoops for the honest to jump through.
I don't have a photo driving licence or a (valid) passport.


It's a right b***r trying to prove who you are, isn't it? I don't have
either a driving licence or even an invalid passport! Sure makes life
difficult sometimes. I'm probably one of the very, very small minority
that thought there was a valid case for a national ID card. I probably
couldn't have got one though, because I couldn't prove that I was
entitled to one!

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On 29 Dec 2011 14:44:08 GMT, mick wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:27:52 +0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:


Fecking marvelous more blooming hoops for the honest to jump through.
I don't have a photo driving licence or a (valid) passport.


It's a right b***r trying to prove who you are, isn't it? I don't have
either a driving licence or even an invalid passport! Sure makes life
difficult sometimes. I'm probably one of the very, very small minority
that thought there was a valid case for a national ID card. I probably
couldn't have got one though, because I couldn't prove that I was
entitled to one!


I'm one who thought the identity card would have been a good idea but
the all-seeing, all-knowing,
can't-breathe-unless-you-can-prove-who-you-are national database would
have been a disaster. I no longer drive but I keep my driving licence
up to date simply to use it as a de facto ID card.

Nick
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mick wrote:

I'm probably one of the very, very small minority
that thought there was a valid case for a national ID card.


If it didn't have a single centralised database behind it, it would be
fine. Just store basic identity information on the card, and the
ability for multiple decentralised databases to link to the card, via
unique numbers to prevent decentralised database1 linking to
decentralised database2 ...

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:02:26 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

I no longer drive but I keep my driving licence up to date simply to use
it as a de facto ID card.


Aye, the photo driving licence has effectively become a national ID
card with a centralised database...

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:39:14 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:02:26 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

I no longer drive but I keep my driving licence up to date simply to use
it as a de facto ID card.


Aye, the photo driving licence has effectively become a national ID
card with a centralised database...


I appreciate the irony. Frankly, I wouldn't have minded if the
government had wanted to extend the driving licence system to include
non-driving licences so that everybody was on board. My objection was
to the range and the depth of extra information they wanted and the
fact that it would all have been in one place. If what's held on the
DVLA database about me were to be left on a laptop in the back of a
taxi it wouldn't make that much difference.

Nick


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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:54:59 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:39:14 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:02:26 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

I no longer drive but I keep my driving licence up to date simply to
use it as a de facto ID card.


Aye, the photo driving licence has effectively become a national ID card
with a centralised database...


I appreciate the irony. Frankly, I wouldn't have minded if the
government had wanted to extend the driving licence system to include
non-driving licences so that everybody was on board. My objection was to
the range and the depth of extra information they wanted and the fact
that it would all have been in one place. If what's held on the DVLA
database about me were to be left on a laptop in the back of a taxi it
wouldn't make that much difference.


I use my bus pass!



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On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:02:54 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:54:59 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:39:14 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:02:26 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

I no longer drive but I keep my driving licence up to date simply to
use it as a de facto ID card.

Aye, the photo driving licence has effectively become a national ID
card with a centralised database...


I appreciate the irony. Frankly, I wouldn't have minded if the
government had wanted to extend the driving licence system to include
non-driving licences so that everybody was on board. My objection was
to the range and the depth of extra information they wanted and the
fact that it would all have been in one place. If what's held on the
DVLA database about me were to be left on a laptop in the back of a
taxi it wouldn't make that much difference.


I use my bus pass!



I tried that. I was trying to get onto a secure site to do some
specialised work. They wanted two forms of photo ID issued "by official
bodies". Basically, that was driving licence & passport. I tried my bus
pass, but that's only issued by the council so it doesn't count. I tried
my Amateur Radio licence,but it doesn't have a photograph. Solved it in
the end, but it was difficult. They needed me in particular so that eased
things a little!

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