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Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain
channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim |
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On 23/12/2010 18:59, the_constructor wrote:
Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim far as I could tell it is dependant on the machine itself. I seem to recall having the problem with one machine then when it was replaced the problem was resolved. can't guarantee that :O) |
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the_constructor wrote:
Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim Never had that problem but on Bravo and Alibi we get a momentary loss of sound, probably a second or less. |
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"Pete Zahut" wrote in message ... the_constructor wrote: Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim Never had that problem but on Bravo and Alibi we get a momentary loss of sound, probably a second or less. I doubt if it is related but I have noticed when I watch BBC news video clips on my PC after around 2 seconds it pauses momentarily and then restarts, then continues as normal. We are using virgin cable but I have just thought it to be my PC. |
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SS wrote:
"Pete Zahut" wrote in message ... the_constructor wrote: Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim Never had that problem but on Bravo and Alibi we get a momentary loss of sound, probably a second or less. I doubt if it is related but I have noticed when I watch BBC news video clips on my PC after around 2 seconds it pauses momentarily and then restarts, then continues as normal. We are using virgin cable but I have just thought it to be my PC. I have noticed that. It only started in the last month or so ISTR. -- Adam |
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SS wrote:
I have noticed when I watch BBC news video clips on my PC after around 2 seconds it pauses momentarily and then restarts, then continues as normal. It has started doing that to me recently (Flash 10.1, FF3.6.13 on Linux, ADSL connection ~2.6Mbps) doesn't happen on YouTube, just BBC. |
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the_constructor wrote:
Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I've noticed that modern digi-decoders have taken to muting the sound if there's data corruption of the audio comprared to the click/sqwark noises older boxes tend to make. Similarly the screen'll go blank instead of getting coloured blobs. Slightly mis-aligned dish maybe? -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On Dec 24, 7:59 am, "the_constructor"
wrote: Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. I discovered that my wireless broadband modem was interfering with half a dozen Sky channels. I fixed it by moving the modem to the other side of the room. If you have broadband try turning it off and seeing if the problem still occurs. |
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"Matty F" wrote in message ... I discovered that my wireless broadband modem was interfering with half a dozen Sky channels. I fixed it by moving the modem to the other side of the room. If you have broadband try turning it off and seeing if the problem still occurs. I doubt if its the same SKY as its a satellite TV service which probably doesn't reach NZ. |
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Do you have the narration channel sometimes used as audio description turned
on? sometimes I gather if its left on, noise on the channel can duck the sound as is the case with AD. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "the_constructor" wrote in message ... Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim |
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On 23/12/2010 18:59, the_constructor wrote:
Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim I get a similar problem on freesat. My UPS has been noting some brief drops in voltage during the cold weather and wind. I wonder if the voltage drops are causing the boxes to lose signal briefly. I don't think its rain fade. There doesn't appear to be any correlation betwenn cloud cover and the dropping. Peter Scott |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... Do you have the narration channel sometimes used as audio description turned on? sometimes I gather if its left on, noise on the channel can duck the sound as is the case with AD. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! Are you the Brian Gaff that used to post in the Virgin Media support groups? Mr Pounder |
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On Dec 24, 9:08 pm, "dennis@home"
wrote: "Matty F" wrote in message ... I discovered that my wireless broadband modem was interfering with half a dozen Sky channels. I fixed it by moving the modem to the other side of the room. If you have broadband try turning it off and seeing if the problem still occurs. I doubt if its the same SKY as its a satellite TV service which probably doesn't reach NZ. I believe that there is a digital satellite television system called Sky in the UK and Europe, as well as NZ. The transmission principle is the same. Interference on some but not all channels is quite likely to be caused by wi-fi. My way of solving problems quickly is to try the easy solutions first, e.g. switching off the wi-fi. |
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"Peter Scott" wrote in message ... On 23/12/2010 18:59, the_constructor wrote: Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim I get a similar problem on freesat. My UPS has been noting some brief drops in voltage during the cold weather and wind. I wonder if the voltage drops are causing the boxes to lose signal briefly. I don't think its rain fade. There doesn't appear to be any correlation betwenn cloud cover and the dropping. Peter Scott Following on from my original post. On Christmas Day I was talking to my daughters partner, they live in Cumbria and I live in County Durham, who confirmed that he suffers exactly the same problems as I do. Hearing this, I contacted a few more people to wish them compliments of the season and asked them about their SKY boxes as well and surprise surprise, they also confirmed the same problem. I have done some recording on the new Freesat Humax box and there was absolutely no trouble whatsoever. Piocture and sound as clear as anything. My router, is on the other side of the house upstairs so no problems with that causing the bother and it is also on a separate ring main. Have phoned SKY and cancelled my subscription so Mr Murdoch will bnot be getting anymore of my monies. Jim |
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"the_constructor" wrote in message ... Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim If you are using the digital sound this may occur when the sound system switches, for example from Dobly Digital to 48k PCM, your AV amp (or even the TV) may suppress output for a second or two while it adjusts to the new stream. This is most likely to occur on program changes or at the start / end / between adverts. It may happen between items in live programs - e.g. the news. |
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the_constructor wrote:
Following on from my original post. On Christmas Day I was talking to my daughters partner, they live in Cumbria and I live in County Durham, who confirmed that he suffers exactly the same problems as I do. Hearing this, I contacted a few more people to wish them compliments of the season and asked them about their SKY boxes as well and surprise surprise, they also confirmed the same problem. I have done some recording on the new Freesat Humax box and there was absolutely no trouble whatsoever. Piocture and sound as clear as anything. My router, is on the other side of the house upstairs so no problems with that causing the bother and it is also on a separate ring main. Have phoned SKY and cancelled my subscription so Mr Murdoch will bnot be getting anymore of my monies. Jim A very sensible solution. -- Adrian |
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On 26/12/2010 03:39, Matty F wrote:
On Dec 24, 9:08 pm, wrote: "Matty wrote in message ... I discovered that my wireless broadband modem was interfering with half a dozen Sky channels. I fixed it by moving the modem to the other side of the room. If you have broadband try turning it off and seeing if the problem still occurs. I doubt if its the same SKY as its a satellite TV service which probably doesn't reach NZ. I believe that there is a digital satellite television system called Sky in the UK and Europe, as well as NZ. The transmission principle is the same. Interference on some but not all channels is quite likely to be caused by wi-fi. My way of solving problems quickly is to try the easy solutions first, e.g. switching off the wi-fi. I had sky here in the UK and wifi for five+ yrs with no problems. The sky box and router where approx 10ft away from each other with a brick wall between though laptop and mobiles registered a strong signal in the room where the sky was installed. Mike |
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"Walt Davidson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:59:29 +0000, Adrian wrote: Have phoned SKY and cancelled my subscription so Mr Murdoch will not be getting anymore of my monies. Did you have a protracted argument with them before they would accept your cancellation? I believe they require 30 days' notice (paid for) of cancellation! -- Walt Davidson Oh yes Walt, too true I did. I finished up telling the lad to stop giving me the third degree, shut his mouth, open his ears and listen...... I JUST WANT TO CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION.... He gave me all the bumf that he was only asking and not pressuring me in any way, funny, I thought he was trying to bully me into putting the sky in another room..... I just told him that I had SKY Freesat in every room bar the lounge, which I have, that shut him up. I know the poor sod is only trying to do his job as per SKY protocol. Jim G1SSO |
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On 26/12/2010 21:19, Walt Davidson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:51:13 -0000, "the_constructor" wrote: Did you have a protracted argument with them before they would accept your cancellation? I believe they require 30 days' notice (paid for) of cancellation! Oh yes Walt, too true I did. I finished up telling the lad to stop giving me the third degree, shut his mouth, open his ears and listen...... I JUST WANT TO CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION.... He gave me all the bumf that he was only asking and not pressuring me in any way, funny, I thought he was trying to bully me into putting the sky in another room..... I just told him that I had SKY Freesat in every room bar the lounge, which I have, that shut him up. I know the poor sod is only trying to do his job as per SKY protocol. Jim G1SSO Ha ha! I thought as much. I actually cancelled my subscription once before, in 1999, and even then they gave me the third degree! I told them I was going to university for three years and would not have a television set. They had no answer to that! Now I am seriously considering cancelling again. At the moment I have the full programme package (including HD but not 3D), and they have very recently increased the monthly subscription to about £64 which is more than I am content to pay. Freesat would suit me fine ... except that I would be rather sorry to lose the 40 or so subscription HD channels. Walt (G3NYY) I've left sky twice and I just told them I've just had an alternative installed and they are too late to make offers. With mobile companies I tell them I've just got one from work and they are fine with me using it for personal calls. They offer me PAYG cards and on two occasions FREE line rental with plenty of mins and texts, which I've taken advantage of. You just have to be very firm bordering on rude to leave a utility company these days. Mike |
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On 26/12/2010 23:20, Skipweasel wrote:
In , says... You just have to be very firm bordering on rude to leave a utility company these days. Or even to avoid getting joined up. I'm fairly sure Scottish Power tried to slam me the other day. I rang them and told 'em that under no circumstances were they to try to slam me. The woman on the doorstep had been rude and very devious. Unless you have your own power supply etc it's difficult not to. Mike |
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Skipweasel wrote: You just have to be very firm bordering on rude to leave a utility company these days. Or even to avoid getting joined up. I'm fairly sure Scottish Power tried to slam me the other day. .... aside: What does "slam" mean Skipweasel? I can guess, but it's not a term I've ever heard, and I like precision in language. J. |
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aside: What does "slam" mean Skipweasel? I can guess, but it's not a
term I've ever heard, and I like precision in language. (sorry: that might come across as rude ... I meant that I like to be precise when I use language, and therefore like to know proper meanings, and origins.) J. |
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In article lalaw44-B9BF61.11261827122010@surfnet-
nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.196.x.invalid, says... Or even to avoid getting joined up. I'm fairly sure Scottish Power tried to slam me the other day. .... aside: What does "slam" mean Skipweasel? I can guess, but it's not a term I've ever heard, and I like precision in language. Oh, sorry. Slamming is when the door-to-door sales rep transfers you to their firm whether you wanted to or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_slamming That's specifically telephones, but it can happen with other services as well. -- Skipweasel - never knowingly understood. |
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On Monday, December 27th, 2010 at 11:01:25h +0000, Terry Casey suggested:
then happily send little Billy off to school with a microwave transmitter (mobile) which now needs to transmit at a much higher power a mere 2cm from little Billy's brain! Should Billy be chipped as well? http://women.timesonline.co.UK/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article1788169.ece If you do it for you pets, why not the children as well? -- "You don't give a kid a gun for Christmas.€ -- Sergeant Joe Friday |
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On 26/12/2010 21:19, Walt Davidson wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:51:13 -0000, "the_constructor" wrote: Did you have a protracted argument with them before they would accept your cancellation? I believe they require 30 days' notice (paid for) of cancellation! Oh yes Walt, too true I did. I finished up telling the lad to stop giving me the third degree, shut his mouth, open his ears and listen...... I JUST WANT TO CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION.... He gave me all the bumf that he was only asking and not pressuring me in any way, funny, I thought he was trying to bully me into putting the sky in another room..... I just told him that I had SKY Freesat in every room bar the lounge, which I have, that shut him up. I know the poor sod is only trying to do his job as per SKY protocol. Jim G1SSO Ha ha! I thought as much. I actually cancelled my subscription once before, in 1999, and even then they gave me the third degree! I told them I was going to university for three years and would not have a television set. They had no answer to that! Now I am seriously considering cancelling again. At the moment I have the full programme package (including HD but not 3D), and they have very recently increased the monthly subscription to about £64 which is more than I am content to pay. Freesat would suit me fine ... except that I would be rather sorry to lose the 40 or so subscription HD channels. Walt (G3NYY) For what it's worth, I have freeview and Freesat HD, the quality of SD broadcasts off of the satellite is almost as good as HD quality. The picture is that much sharper and clearer/better colours etc. -- Bod |
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On Monday, December 27th, 2010 at 16:54:06h +0000, Bod explained:
For what it's worth, I have freeview and Freesat HD, the quality of SD broadcasts off of the satellite is almost as good as HD quality. The picture is that much sharper and clearer/better colours etc. I thought that quite a number of the ITV-1 regions on satellite were broadcast with a far below SD needed bit rate resulting in a picture far worse than that available on Multiplex 2 / PSB-2 ? |
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"Terry Casey" wrote in message
... In article , says... I had sky here in the UK and wifi for five+ yrs with no problems. The sky box and router where approx 10ft away from each other with a brick wall between though laptop and mobiles registered a strong signal in the room where the sky was installed. Signal level halves every time you double the distance so, taking your 10ft example, the Sky box would see double the power if the separation was 5' and four times the power at 2' 6". RF normally follows the inverse square law so doubling the distance reduces the signal level to a quarter. -- Brian Gregory. (In the UK) To email me remove the letter vee. |
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In message , "Brian
Gregory [UK]" writes "Terry Casey" wrote in message ... In article , says... I had sky here in the UK and wifi for five+ yrs with no problems. The sky box and router where approx 10ft away from each other with a brick wall between though laptop and mobiles registered a strong signal in the room where the sky was installed. Signal level halves every time you double the distance so, taking your 10ft example, the Sky box would see double the power if the separation was 5' and four times the power at 2' 6". RF normally follows the inverse square law so doubling the distance reduces the signal level to a quarter. I've got a feeling that my cordless mouse (27MHz) might have been making my Ross SD FTA satellite receiver crash occasionally. It was only around 18" away from the computer-end external transceiver thingy, so I've moved it a bit further away. There's also a wireless router (2.4GHz) about 4' away from it. I'm keeping a watching brief on the situation. -- Ian |
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"Bod" wrote in message ... On 26/12/2010 21:19, Walt Davidson wrote: On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:51:13 -0000, "the_constructor" wrote: Did you have a protracted argument with them before they would accept your cancellation? I believe they require 30 days' notice (paid for) of cancellation! Oh yes Walt, too true I did. I finished up telling the lad to stop giving me the third degree, shut his mouth, open his ears and listen...... I JUST WANT TO CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION.... He gave me all the bumf that he was only asking and not pressuring me in any way, funny, I thought he was trying to bully me into putting the sky in another room..... I just told him that I had SKY Freesat in every room bar the lounge, which I have, that shut him up. I know the poor sod is only trying to do his job as per SKY protocol. Jim G1SSO Ha ha! I thought as much. I actually cancelled my subscription once before, in 1999, and even then they gave me the third degree! I told them I was going to university for three years and would not have a television set. They had no answer to that! Now I am seriously considering cancelling again. At the moment I have the full programme package (including HD but not 3D), and they have very recently increased the monthly subscription to about £64 which is more than I am content to pay. Freesat would suit me fine ... except that I would be rather sorry to lose the 40 or so subscription HD channels. Walt (G3NYY) For what it's worth, I have freeview and Freesat HD, the quality of SD broadcasts off of the satellite is almost as good as HD quality. The picture is that much sharper and clearer/better colours etc. -- Bod Who invited you here???? Mr Pounder |
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school, then happily send little Billy off to school with a microwave
transmitter (mobile) which now needs to transmit at a much higher power a mere 2cm from little Billy's brain! Except that little Billy or rather billie with be TxT'ing more often than not... -- Tony Sayer |
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:58:11 +0000, Paul Martin wrote:
Which is most odd, given that your Sky box and your Technomate are using exactly the same datastreams off Astra 2 at 28.2°E (and 28.5°E for Eurobird 1). But there remains the question of whether or not upscaling is involved, and if so, if the Technomate is doing better job at upscaling than the $ky box? |
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Annoying Sound Problem
On 29/12/2010 15:58, Paul Martin wrote:
In article , Walt Davidson wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 16:54:06 +0000, Bod wrote: For what it's worth, I have freeview and Freesat HD, the quality of SD broadcasts off of the satellite is almost as good as HD quality. The picture is that much sharper and clearer/better colours etc. Thanks. That's reassuring to know. I already have a Technomate satellite receiver and I have noticed that the quality of SD pictures received on that is often better than the SD pictures received on the Sky HD+ box. Which is most odd, given that your Sky box and your Technomate are using exactly the same datastreams off Astra 2 at 28.2°E (and 28.5°E for Eurobird 1). Not really as the data stream is compressed and the picture quality will depend upon the quality of the decoder as well as the graphics engine, this is before we start talking 'upscaling' |
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Annoying Sound Problem
On 12/23/2010 11:32 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
SS wrote: I have noticed when I watch BBC news video clips on my PC after around 2 seconds it pauses momentarily and then restarts, then continues as normal. It has started doing that to me recently (Flash 10.1, FF3.6.13 on Linux, ADSL connection ~2.6Mbps) doesn't happen on YouTube, just BBC. Perhaps they are testing their content driven Internet solutions. "Remove the pesky 2 seconds by upgrading to our high-def content broadband" Wave bye-bye to net neutrality. |
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Annoying Sound Problem
On Dec 23 2010, 1:59*pm, "the_constructor"
wrote: Ever since I have had SKY+ I have noticed that whilst watching certain channels, there is a dip in sound of about 2 seconds. Is this a fault of the SKY+ box or is it SKY themselves introducing this problem to stop people enjoying the programmes. I have just purchased a Freesat+ box made by Humax and am hoping that this problem is not on there as well. Jim http://www.bugsweeps.com/info/electr...arassment.html http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...bluebeam01.htm |
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