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Isolating valve for flexible tap tails
I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in
the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? |
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I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end here http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plum.../sd2807/p29829 If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam-
wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K |
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On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote:
On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...ut-Check-Valve |
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On 30 Oct, 16:37, " wrote:
On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...chine-Accs/Flo... erm... the 3/4" bit might cause a slight (1/4") prob? ;) Jim K |
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... John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end here http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plum.../sd2807/p29829 If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Yes - female threaded nut - washer inside. I guess like a tap fitting. |
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... On 30 Oct, 16:37, " wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...chine-Accs/Flo... erm... the 3/4" bit might cause a slight (1/4") prob? ;) Jim K My concern (perhaps I had subliminally seen it earlier): "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in the flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers.) |
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On Oct 30, 6:10*pm, "John" wrote:
"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 30 Oct, 16:37, " wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal.. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...chine-Accs/Flo.... erm... the 3/4" bit might cause a slight (1/4") prob? ;) Jim K My concern (perhaps I had subliminally seen it earlier): "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in the flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a *compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers.) Flexi onto isolating valve has always worked fine for me. If necessary look at a couple of brands of compression isolating valves. The ones I've used do have a smaller surface to contact with the rubber washer, but they are certainly not sharp, and unless you really went for it with a wrench, wouldn't cut through the rubber. A |
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"John" wrote in message ... I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? You can also get pushfit ones. These days I tend to use the ones with a proper "lever" rather than the screw head: I find these easier to operate. The "butterfly" type, e.g. BES part 11775 or Screwfix 21860 are fairly compact. You might also look at BES "mini ball valves" which are threaded each end. |
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On Oct 30, 6:10 pm, "John" wrote: "Jim K" wrote in message ... On 30 Oct, 16:37, " wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...chine-Accs/Flo... erm... the 3/4" bit might cause a slight (1/4") prob? ;) Jim K My concern (perhaps I had subliminally seen it earlier): "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in the flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers.) Flexi onto isolating valve has always worked fine for me. If necessary look at a couple of brands of compression isolating valves. The ones I've used do have a smaller surface to contact with the rubber washer, but they are certainly not sharp, and unless you really went for it with a wrench, wouldn't cut through the rubber. Exactly my experience. Never had a problem. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... andrew wrote: On Oct 30, 6:10 pm, "John" wrote: "Jim K" wrote in message ... On 30 Oct, 16:37, " wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...chine-Accs/Flo... erm... the 3/4" bit might cause a slight (1/4") prob? ;) Jim K My concern (perhaps I had subliminally seen it earlier): "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in the flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers.) Flexi onto isolating valve has always worked fine for me. If necessary look at a couple of brands of compression isolating valves. The ones I've used do have a smaller surface to contact with the rubber washer, but they are certainly not sharp, and unless you really went for it with a wrench, wouldn't cut through the rubber. Exactly my experience. Never had a problem. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Nor I. Arfa |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote in message
... "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... andrew wrote: On Oct 30, 6:10 pm, "John" wrote: "Jim K" wrote in message ... On 30 Oct, 16:37, " wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:32, Jim K wrote: On 30 Oct, 16:24, "The Medway Handyman" davidno-spam- wrote: John wrote: I have bought a tap with 2 flexible tails (rubber washer for the seating in the connection). I want to fit isolation valves - the ones I have seen have compression fittings at each end. I presume I want something a bit different to attach the flexible. Any pointers? Do the flexibles screw into the tap at one end and have a female with a rubber washer at the other. Like the connector on the left end herehttp://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Flexible+Connectors/Flexible... If so the female will fit straight onto the isolating valve & seal. If your flexibles end in compression fittings then a short piece of copper tube will sort it. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk mmm I asked a similar one not so long ago on here - Tim W had this "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in teh flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers. I had the same dilemma when swapped a ballcock from a stupid plastic threaded bit of crap to a proper one with a solid brass thread. The plastic one was designed for a tap connector (not much else they could do) and the brass one for a compression joint to pipe and it had a very sharp shoulder. Don't think a rubber washer would have lasted very long..." Jim K In which case use washing machine taps: http://www.screwfix.com/prods/51231/...chine-Accs/Flo... erm... the 3/4" bit might cause a slight (1/4") prob? ;) Jim K My concern (perhaps I had subliminally seen it earlier): "I don't think that would be a good idea. The rubber washer in the flexi expects a flat shoulder on the mating fitting. The shoulder on a compression joint tends to be sharper and not designed for washers.) Flexi onto isolating valve has always worked fine for me. If necessary look at a couple of brands of compression isolating valves. The ones I've used do have a smaller surface to contact with the rubber washer, but they are certainly not sharp, and unless you really went for it with a wrench, wouldn't cut through the rubber. Exactly my experience. Never had a problem. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk Nor I. Arfa Thanks - I am not missing something then. |
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