I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap..... ...I'm undecided whether to bring the
feeds up through the floor or through the wall the basin is secured to .I'm
trying to either hide the feeds as much as possible ( using plastic ) or I'll
use chrome pipe,in which case it doesnt matter so much .
Are there "rules " about using flexible tails as keeping them straight as much
as possible or is it OK to "bend" them ?

Stuart

I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap..... ...I'm undecided whether to bring the
feeds up through the floor or through the wall the basin is secured to .I'm
trying to either hide the feeds as much as possible ( using plastic ) or I'll
use chrome pipe,in which case it doesnt matter so much .
Are there "rules " about using flexible tails as keeping them straight as much
as possible or is it OK to "bend" them ?

i`m not a plumber etc :-}

IIRC the monobloc tap on my kitchen sink has two small copper tails that
we had to use - there was no way a flexi would attach due to the
connections on the underside of the monobloc.

You may need to check on the connection arrangement to see if its
actually possible to get the flexis onto the monobloc direct :-}

On Sun, 14 May 2006 23:00:18 +0100, Colin Wilson wrote:

I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap..... ...I'm undecided whether to bring the
feeds up through the floor or through the wall the basin is secured to .I'm
trying to either hide the feeds as much as possible ( using plastic ) or I'll
use chrome pipe,in which case it doesnt matter so much .
Are there "rules " about using flexible tails as keeping them straight as much
as possible or is it OK to "bend" them ?

i`m not a plumber etc :-}

IIRC the monobloc tap on my kitchen sink has two small copper tails that
we had to use - there was no way a flexi would attach due to the
connections on the underside of the monobloc.

You may need to check on the connection arrangement to see if its
actually possible to get the flexis onto the monobloc direct :-}


Yeah.It is possible although it 's tight .I used them on my kitchen sink as
well....One tail has the nut to tighten it at a different position from the
other ...if it wasnt that way the two nuts would be in each others way when you
tried to get a spanner on .


Stuart

Stuart wrote:
I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap..... ...I'm undecided whether to bring the
feeds up through the floor or through the wall the basin is secured to .I'm
trying to either hide the feeds as much as possible ( using plastic ) or I'll
use chrome pipe,in which case it doesnt matter so much .
Are there "rules " about using flexible tails as keeping them straight as much
as possible or is it OK to "bend" them ?

Bring the pipework up inside the pedestal, that's what it's
for. This is one job where a bending spring can be handy to
get nice graceful curves. "Flexible tails" look horrible.

Stuart wrote:
I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap..... ...I'm undecided whether to bring the
feeds up through the floor or through the wall the basin is secured to .I'm
trying to either hide the feeds as much as possible ( using plastic ) or I'll
use chrome pipe,in which case it doesnt matter so much .
Are there "rules " about using flexible tails as keeping them straight as much
as possible or is it OK to "bend" them ?

Stuart

OK to bend them but do ensure they don't 'kink'. Also make sure they
have a bit of slack.i.e. not tight between two points.

Bookworm wrote:
Stuart wrote:
I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap.....

OK to bend them but do ensure they don't 'kink'. Also make sure they
have a bit of slack.i.e. not tight between two points.

Um. Does he mean tails, or connectors?

On 15 May 2006 15:02:05 +0200, Chris Bacon wrote:

Bookworm wrote:
Stuart wrote:
I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap.....

OK to bend them but do ensure they don't 'kink'. Also make sure they
have a bit of slack.i.e. not tight between two points.

Um. Does he mean tails, or connectors?


Well I'm not sure what YOU mean by tails and connectors but www.bes.co.uk call
the ones for monobloc taps "flexible tails" and the ones for ordinary taps
"flexible connectors" ...The only difference appears to be the means of
connecting them to the taps ,the monobloc ones having a male fitting with a
rubber o ring and the others having the usual tap connection .

The ones I have are the ones for a monobloc tap.
As for bringing the feed up behind the pedestal there was precious little room
in the one that I succeeeded in smashing so I'll se what the replacement one is
like but I also have the option of using the copper tails that I had lying
around but they don't give much room either once they are fitted to the tap
....why didn't I get a two tap basin .?


Stuart

Stuart wrote:
On 15 May 2006 15:02:05 +0200, Chris Bacon wrote:
Bookworm wrote:
Stuart wrote:
I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap.....
OK to bend them but do ensure they don't 'kink'. Also make sure they
have a bit of slack.i.e. not tight between two points.
Um. Does he mean tails, or connectors?

Well I'm not sure what YOU mean by tails and connectors but www.bes.co.uk call
the ones for monobloc taps "flexible tails" and the ones for ordinary taps
"flexible connectors" ...The only difference appears to be the means of
connecting them to the taps ,the monobloc ones having a male fitting with a
rubber o ring and the others having the usual tap connection .

I wondered whether they were "bendy copper tube attached to
the tap suitable for solder or compression joints" or the
braided things in your links.


The ones I have are the ones for a monobloc tap.
As for bringing the feed up behind the pedestal there was precious little room

You could make up the pipework with the basin in position and
supported, without the pedestal (mark out where it goes, though).
Then bend the tube appropriately, finish off with one elbow before
the tap connector. Offer everything up to check it fits before
soldering the lot up.


...why didn't I get a two tap basin .?

You've got more room to keep the soap, etc.?

On 15 May 2006 18:34:42 +0200, Chris Bacon wrote:

Stuart wrote:
On 15 May 2006 15:02:05 +0200, Chris Bacon wrote:
Bookworm wrote:
Stuart wrote:
I am refitting a washhand basin and pedestal and have a couple of flexible tap
tails to fit to the monobloc tap.....
OK to bend them but do ensure they don't 'kink'. Also make sure they
have a bit of slack.i.e. not tight between two points.
Um. Does he mean tails, or connectors?

Well I'm not sure what YOU mean by tails and connectors but www.bes.co.uk call
the ones for monobloc taps "flexible tails" and the ones for ordinary taps
"flexible connectors" ...The only difference appears to be the means of
connecting them to the taps ,the monobloc ones having a male fitting with a
rubber o ring and the others having the usual tap connection .

I wondered whether they were "bendy copper tube attached to
the tap suitable for solder or compression joints" or the
braided things in your links.


The ones I have are the ones for a monobloc tap.
As for bringing the feed up behind the pedestal there was precious little room

You could make up the pipework with the basin in position and
supported, without the pedestal (mark out where it goes, though).
Then bend the tube appropriately, finish off with one elbow before
the tap connector. Offer everything up to check it fits before
soldering the lot up.


...why didn't I get a two tap basin .?

You've got more room to keep the soap, etc.?


Ah..those copper bendy things .I'd forgotten about them ..I remember having them
in my kitchen .Didn't like them then and can't imagine I'd like them now if they
still make them.. iirc there was a limit to how often you could bend them before
they hardened up..

Is it safe to screw the basin to the wall (using the Fischer plastic inserts in
the basin holes) and let it sit there for a wee while ......I see some basins
that are sold to fit just like that ...

I was also thinking of bringing chrome pipe out of the wall (false) behind the
basin to avoid hiding the pipework behind the pedestal .....I'll have a think
about it all


Stuart

Stuart wrote:
Chris Bacon wrote:
[flexible things ]
I wondered whether they were "bendy copper tube attached to
the tap suitable for solder or compression joints" or the
braided things in your links.

Ah..those copper bendy things .I'd forgotten about them ..I remember having them
in my kitchen .Didn't like them then and can't imagine I'd like them now if they
still make them.. iirc there was a limit to how often you could bend them before
they hardened up..

No, I was just going to post to say "not them" - they're ugly,
and hold even more dust and restrict flow (assuming you mean
the corrugated things) . I just mean the soft copper flexible
(somewhat) tails. These look like a 15mm tube coming out of
the bottom of the taps which you can bent (carefully) to line
up with your pipework.


Is it safe to screw the basin to the wall (using the Fischer plastic inserts in
the basin holes) and let it sit there for a wee while ......I see some basins
that are sold to fit just like that ...

I dunno, I'd prop it IIWY.


I was also thinking of bringing chrome pipe out of the wall (false) behind the
basin to avoid hiding the pipework behind the pedestal .....I'll have a think
about it all

Sounds OK - you might be able to just use a couple of bent
tap connectors.