Ok so getting the busted ones out and the lead strip to hold the
replacement in/up fixed is not not a problem. But how do you get the
top of the replacement slate onto the batten that nails of the next
row up go into? I've tried various juggling and twisting and lifting
the slates above with the ripper but with no joy.

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
Ok so getting the busted ones out and the lead strip to hold the
replacement in/up fixed is not not a problem. But how do you get the
top of the replacement slate onto the batten that nails of the next
row up go into? I've tried various juggling and twisting and lifting
the slates above with the ripper but with no joy.

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Cheers
Dave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKcJW-t4Jkw says you just nail between the 2
slates above the slate you have just replaced.

http://www.slateroofcentral.com/ also has some useful info.

On 22/09/2010 17:14, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Ok so getting the busted ones out and the lead strip to hold the
replacement in/up fixed is not not a problem. But how do you get the
top of the replacement slate onto the batten that nails of the next
row up go into? I've tried various juggling and twisting and lifting
the slates above with the ripper but with no joy.


I used to have a piece of thin wide steel strip that I played around
with until it went over the batten, then slid the slate up it into place.

Colin Bignell

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:55:17 +0100, Steven Campbell wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKcJW-t4Jkw says you just nail between
the 2 slates above the slate you have just replaced.

There isn't enough movement or space between the two slates in the
row above to get the head through the gap on this roof. You also have
to faff about putting a bit of flashing over the nail head and what
keeps that in place?

http://www.slateroofcentral.com/ also has some useful info.

US based and they appear to do things slighty differently. They
really don't like the strip of lead method, can't say I've ever had
snow, ice or things sliding down the roof open up any of the straps
on the roofs that haven't been redone here. Asthetically they are a
bit of eyesore and that site has introduced slate hooks which will be
far less obtrusive. I need some more slates so will see if the
builders merchant has some nail in slate hooks of the right length or
the black plastic strappy things.

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Cheers
Dave.

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:15:31 +0100, "Nightjar wrote:

I used to have a piece of thin wide steel strip that I played around
with until it went over the batten, then slid the slate up it into
place.

Yeah, having drawn a cross section of how the slates lay in relation
to each other and the battens it became obvious that shoving the
ripper up and across the gap and onto the batten *before* you put the
replacement slate in (on top of the ripper) should guide it up and
onto the batten. Always assuming there is enough slack in the roof,
this one was only reslated 5 years ago and is still pretty tight.



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Cheers
Dave.

On 22/09/2010 20:26, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:15:31 +0100, "Nightjar wrote:

I used to have a piece of thin wide steel strip that I played around
with until it went over the batten, then slid the slate up it into
place.

Yeah, having drawn a cross section of how the slates lay in relation
to each other and the battens it became obvious that shoving the
ripper up and across the gap and onto the batten *before* you put the
replacement slate in (on top of the ripper) should guide it up and
onto the batten. Always assuming there is enough slack in the roof,
this one was only reslated 5 years ago and is still pretty tight.

That is why I used thin steel strip, rather than the ripper.

Colin Bignell

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:37:37 +0100, "Nightjar wrote:

That is why I used thin steel strip, rather than the ripper.

My ripper is the thinest bit of steel strip I have, also has a handy
handle for jiggling. B-)

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Cheers
Dave.

On Sep 22, 5:14*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:
Ok so getting the busted ones out and the lead strip to hold the
replacement in/up fixed is not not a problem. But how do you get the
top of the replacement slate onto the batten that nails of the next
row up go into? I've tried various juggling and twisting and lifting
the slates above with the ripper but with no joy.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Slide the slate rip in first over the top lath then slide the slate up
on top of the rip. When the tail of the replacement slate is level
with the other slates slide the rip out. Try a thinner slate if tight
or you can hit the top of the slate with a hammer to form a reverse
riven edge so you have a chamfer which will help ride over the lath.

On 22/09/10 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:55:17 +0100, Steven Campbell wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKcJW-t4Jkw says you just nail between
the 2 slates above the slate you have just replaced.

There isn't enough movement or space between the two slates in the
row above to get the head through the gap on this roof. You also have
to faff about putting a bit of flashing over the nail head and what
keeps that in place?

http://www.slateroofcentral.com/ also has some useful info.

US based and they appear to do things slighty differently. They
really don't like the strip of lead method, can't say I've ever had
snow, ice or things sliding down the roof open up any of the straps
on the roofs that haven't been redone here. Asthetically they are a
bit of eyesore and that site has introduced slate hooks which will be
far less obtrusive. I need some more slates so will see if the
builders merchant has some nail in slate hooks of the right length or
the black plastic strappy things.

they are also called tingles.

The ones I bought are the wrong length,
so please post a link if you find a good supplier!

The Slate Roof Bible
is a fantastic book,
some of the curves in the photos are so sexy!

[g]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:48:37 +0100, george [dicegeorge] wrote:

I need some more slates so will see if the builders merchant has
some
nail in slate hooks of the right length or the black plastic
strappy
things.

they are also called tingles.

Which they? the slate hooks or black plastic strappy things?

FX: google "tingles" really refers to copper or lead strips that
would traditionally be used to fix a slipped or replacement slate.
The black plastic strappy things are Ubbink Sim-fix.

The ones I bought are the wrong length,

Slate hooks have a fixed length, strips of copper or lead and the
Ubbink thing are adjustable. Plenty of places selling slate hooks on
the web.

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Cheers
Dave.