Hello,

When plasterboarding a stud wall, should I fix just to the uprights or
both the uprights and the noggins?

I'm thinking that it is probably better to fix anywhere there is part of
the wooden structure underneath.


Thanks

Graham

A local joiner laughed when he saw my attempt at plasterboarding a stud wall
I put up. I went for "screw it everywhere" approach, and it took more time
and filler than I wanted!!!

On 12 July, 19:52, "SantaUK" wrote:
A local joiner laughed when he saw my attempt at plasterboarding a stud wall
I put up. *I went for "screw it everywhere" approach, and it took more time
and filler than I wanted!!!

Just the uprights

Allan Mac wrote:
On 12 July, 19:52, "SantaUK" wrote:
A local joiner laughed when he saw my attempt at plasterboarding a
stud wall I put up. I went for "screw it everywhere" approach, and
it took more time and filler than I wanted!!!

Just the uprights

Allan,

That's not what the Clerk of the Works said when I was building schools way
back in the very early 70's and using plaster boards by the artic lorry
load - it was "nail it to all the studding" son that's what it's there for,
and stop farting about! He even made us fit all the noggins in a straight
line, forcing us to skew-nail every on of the b*****ds on (and there were
bloody hundreds - and all cut by hand) and put all the nails in evenly
spaced and in straight lines! And don't forget to be a bloody mind reader
and fit all the necessary noggins behind the boards for light fittings,
toilet flushes, wash hand basins etc, etc, etc.

At least we didn't have to fill all those bloody nail holes in!

Ah, those were the days! Do I miss 'em? Not flamin' likely - but it
certainly taught me a thing or two on cutting and fitting plasterboards.
LOL

Now as for your "just the uprights" - not a really good idea - and why go to
all that trouble of fitting noggins if you're not going to nail the boards
to them? But I suppose plasterboard walls do have a little more character
when they have the odd bouncy 'bows' between the uprights - as will happen
given the right (or wrong) conditions and/or poor fitting.

Cash

On Jul 12, 7:34*pm, Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,

When plasterboarding a stud wall, should I fix just to the uprights or
both the uprights and the noggins?

I'm thinking that it is probably better to fix anywhere there is part of
the wooden structure underneath.

Thanks

Graham

adding a screw on each nogging makes the plasterboard more rigid,
reduces sound transmission. Its not vital though.

If its just a small job you may as well add noggings at useful heigths
all round. That way you can fix anything wherever later, plus a bit
better for sound. Also if you have any lumps of concrete, unwanted
blocks etc, sit a row of them on your noggings, again it improves
sound performance.


NT

On 12 July, 19:34, Graham Jones wrote:
Hello,

When plasterboarding a stud wall, should I fix just to the uprights or
both the uprights and the noggins?

I'm thinking that it is probably better to fix anywhere there is part of
the wooden structure underneath.

Thanks

Graham

The main purpose of noggins is to prevent the "uprights" from movement
as they dry out after the plasterboard has been nailed to them. This
would cause the plasterboards nails to become visible & spoil the
decorations, esp. if it's just plasterskim/painted finish.

The other purpose is to provide fixings for radiators, shelves etc.
Nail every 100mm to everything.

It helps if you can get the noggins on any joints of the plasterboard
but this is sometimes hard to work out,

He even made us fit all the noggins in a straight
line, forcing us to skew-nail every on of *the b*****ds on (and there were
bloody hundreds - and all cut by hand) and put all the nails in evenly
spaced and in straight lines! *

Much easier now with gas nailers and/or self-drilling screws.

I use a couple of spacers to set the noggins in at exactly the right
height, nail from the top side, remove spacers, nail from the bottom
side.


And don't forget to be a bloody mind reader
and fit all the necessary noggins behind the boards for light fittings,
toilet flushes, wash hand basins etc, etc, etc.

Yup, same here, again I've made up a spacer/jig to set radiator
noggins/brackets and another for backboxes (and a template for marking
and cutting the plasterboard cut out, prior to fixing).


Now as for your "just the uprights" - not a really good idea - and why go to
all that trouble of fitting noggins if you're not going to nail the boards
to them?

Manufacturer data says fix every 400mm over the surface, and every
200mm at the edges. So, that's 7 screws (they're quick, and cheap
enough now) up the centre stud (at 600mm) spacing, I then put two
screws in each noggin (so actually 200mm spacing), then work my way
around the edge.

That's a lot of screws, but the way I see it - do the early jobs to
the very best of your ability, and the later jobs will turn out much
better and with less effort.

Have done 85 sheets this way in the chapel conversion I'm doing. Pity
I've got a back injury though. From now on, someone(s) else will shift
and fix the plasterboard.