Hi,

I need some, hand bendable, no cords and mentally strong (hence the metal).
And around 30-40 quid ish for a 80cm deep by 180cm long bay window, 2 bends,
90 degrees. No valence fancy stuff - just simple track. Poles are out as I
want 2 curtains round the bay, not 4...

Any recommendations?

I like the look of these on paper:

http://www.picturehanging.com/curtain-rail.shtml
Haven't confirmed if it's bendable yet.

Or these:

http://www.curtainsware.com/id21.html

Basically, I'm after smooth action, simple, last forever and not mind
irregular fixings about 40cm apart(I'm going into the ceiling rafters and
they aren't absolutely regular, but will give the best long term fixing).

Curtain rails are a black art (the old 4 quarters choice matrix of "crap/not
crap vs expensive/not expensive) so recommendations of specific brands would
be very useful

Ta

Tim


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In message , Tim Watts
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Hi,

I need some, hand bendable, no cords and mentally strong (hence the metal).
And around 30-40 quid ish for a 80cm deep by 180cm long bay window, 2 bends,
90 degrees. No valence fancy stuff - just simple track. Poles are out as I
want 2 curtains round the bay, not 4...

Any recommendations?

I like the look of these on paper:

http://www.picturehanging.com/curtain-rail.shtml
Haven't confirmed if it's bendable yet.

Or these:

http://www.curtainsware.com/id21.html

Basically, I'm after smooth action, simple, last forever and not mind
irregular fixings about 40cm apart(I'm going into the ceiling rafters and
they aren't absolutely regular, but will give the best long term fixing).

Curtain rails are a black art (the old 4 quarters choice matrix of "crap/not
crap vs expensive/not expensive) so recommendations of specific brands would
be very useful

Go to it Tonto

My bay is 135 degrees about 2 and a bit metres and the rail has just
broken out of the clips (heavy curtains)


So I'm looking for the same thing


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geoff

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 21:02:03 +0000, Tim Watts wrote:

Hi,

I need some, hand bendable, no cords and mentally strong (hence the metal).
And around 30-40 quid ish for a 80cm deep by 180cm long bay window, 2 bends,
90 degrees. No valence fancy stuff - just simple track. Poles are out as I
want 2 curtains round the bay, not 4...

Any recommendations?

I like the look of these on paper:

http://www.picturehanging.com/curtain-rail.shtml
Haven't confirmed if it's bendable yet.

Or these:

http://www.curtainsware.com/id21.html

Basically, I'm after smooth action, simple, last forever and not mind
irregular fixings about 40cm apart(I'm going into the ceiling rafters and
they aren't absolutely regular, but will give the best long term fixing).

Curtain rails are a black art (the old 4 quarters choice matrix of "crap/not
crap vs expensive/not expensive) so recommendations of specific brands would
be very useful

Ta

Tim

I was going to ask why it needs to be metal but then I see you have
two 90 Degree Bends ( does that count as being a bend ?) and wondered
if you mean you want the curtains to go right in to the corners or
bend smoothly round the corners ? If the former then I can see why
you would want metal to get a tighter bend ( which will probably mean
the curtains will stick at the bends ) but if the latter then no
reason why plastic can't be used . What you do need tho is brackets
at the right distances ,closer than probably recommended . I have
heavy lined curtains with a 134" drop and 142" total width and use
plastic Swish rail and brackets without any problem but you do need to
buy the correct rail for heavy curtains .

That second rail you linked to .It says it can be bent but I'm puzzled
as to how as it is an H shape .

You realise that first link is in America?

Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

I need some, hand bendable, no cords and mentally strong (hence the metal).
And around 30-40 quid ish for a 80cm deep by 180cm long bay window, 2 bends,
90 degrees. No valence fancy stuff - just simple track. Poles are out as I
want 2 curtains round the bay, not 4...

Any recommendations?

I like the look of these on paper:

http://www.picturehanging.com/curtain-rail.shtml
Haven't confirmed if it's bendable yet.

Or these:

http://www.curtainsware.com/id21.html

Basically, I'm after smooth action, simple, last forever and not mind
irregular fixings about 40cm apart(I'm going into the ceiling rafters and
they aren't absolutely regular, but will give the best long term fixing).

Curtain rails are a black art (the old 4 quarters choice matrix of "crap/not
crap vs expensive/not expensive) so recommendations of specific brands would
be very useful

Ta

Tim


I have a similar setup. Had a Harrison Drape setup which eventually
gave up the ghost. Have just fitted a B&Q HD plastic corded set which
on thevtrack being sprayed with polish works perfectly - dont knock the
plastic track.

Malcolm

Usenet Nutter
wibbled on Sunday 14 February 2010 22:55


Hi,

I was going to ask why it needs to be metal but then I see you have
two 90 Degree Bends ( does that count as being a bend ?) and wondered
if you mean you want the curtains to go right in to the corners or
bend smoothly round the corners ? If the former then I can see why
you would want metal to get a tighter bend ( which will probably mean
the curtains will stick at the bends ) but if the latter then no
reason why plastic can't be used . What you do need tho is brackets
at the right distances ,closer than probably recommended .

Smooth bend, about 10-15cm radius at a guess.

No, I really want metal. The curtains *will* get abused by tugging (I just
know...) and if I put extra fixings in, they'll only go into PB which I've
always had variable results with. If I can span 40cm with metal mounted
direct to wood it'll be rock solid

It may be possible to mix top and back fixings - the window frame is wood,
but it's full of profiles so that depends on the exact geometry of the
brackets...

I have
heavy lined curtains with a 134" drop and 142" total width and use
plastic Swish rail and brackets without any problem but you do need to
buy the correct rail for heavy curtains .

That second rail you linked to .It says it can be bent but I'm puzzled
as to how as it is an H shape .

It is ali - I guess it isn't that hard. I'd certainly set up a former
though, to get a nice regular bend - like a full tin of paint (have plenty
of those!) or a bit of soil pipe.

The first one might be harder and if it collapses slightly, perhaps the
runners might bind. That's less of an issue with the second one - which IIRC
was a popular rail decades (centuries?) ago - in brass with brass wheeled
runners. I liked those - always very free running and made a lovely sound
when operated


You realise that first link is in America?

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Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

Usenet Nutter wrote:

Tim wrote:

http://www.picturehanging.com/curtain-rail.shtml
http://www.curtainsware.com/id21.html

You realise that first link is in America?

Battersea USA?

In message , Tim Watts
writes
Usenet Nutter
wibbled on Sunday 14 February 2010 22:55


Hi,

I was going to ask why it needs to be metal but then I see you have
two 90 Degree Bends ( does that count as being a bend ?) and wondered
if you mean you want the curtains to go right in to the corners or
bend smoothly round the corners ? If the former then I can see why
you would want metal to get a tighter bend ( which will probably mean
the curtains will stick at the bends ) but if the latter then no
reason why plastic can't be used . What you do need tho is brackets
at the right distances ,closer than probably recommended .

Smooth bend, about 10-15cm radius at a guess.

No, I really want metal. The curtains *will* get abused by tugging (I just
know...) and if I put extra fixings in, they'll only go into PB which I've
always had variable results with. If I can span 40cm with metal mounted
direct to wood it'll be rock solid

It may be possible to mix top and back fixings - the window frame is wood,
but it's full of profiles so that depends on the exact geometry of the
brackets...

I replaced some plastic track recently.

I replaced it with some Harrison Drape metal track - the standard one,
not the ultra' one or whatever it's called. Where the hooks lip over the
track, like your standard plastic track.

Mine was just a straight run, but it says (and should be fine)in can
bent it for bays.

Is very nice and smooth, and feels like a much better job than plastic,
which hopefully will wear better long term. None of the plastic tracks
in this house - which are probably all some years old now work esp
smoothly now- even with cleaning and polish/silicone spray

Like the look of the first link though.
--
Chris French

chris French
wibbled on Monday 15 February 2010 00:13

Harrison Drape

Ah - didn't realise they did that stuff in metal - could be an option.
Thanks!

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Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

http://www.tracksandpoles.com/track_set.shtml

Look down for I-beam - that's the old fashioned stuff I remember. Strewth -
is it overpriced or what.

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Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

Tim Watts
wibbled on Sunday 14 February 2010 21:02

Hi,

I need some, hand bendable, no cords and mentally strong (hence the
metal). And around 30-40 quid ish for a 80cm deep by 180cm long bay
window, 2 bends, 90 degrees. No valence fancy stuff - just simple track.
Poles are out as I want 2 curtains round the bay, not 4...

Any recommendations?

I like the look of these on paper:

http://www.picturehanging.com/curtain-rail.shtml
Haven't confirmed if it's bendable yet.

Or these:




Basically, I'm after smooth action, simple, last forever and not mind
irregular fixings about 40cm apart(I'm going into the ceiling rafters and
they aren't absolutely regular, but will give the best long term fixing).

Curtain rails are a black art (the old 4 quarters choice matrix of
"crap/not crap vs expensive/not expensive) so recommendations of specific
brands would be very useful

Ta

Tim



Thanks for all the suggestions. Did look at the Harrison wotsit stuff -
looked good. But in the end, I found this:

http://www.tracksandpoles.com/track_...am_white.shtml

Which is a rather cheaper source of my second choice. I did find some good
old fashioned solid brass I-beam rail at a more sensible price, but I was
told I wasn't allowed (she hates brass, so doing a steampunk on the house is
apparantly not on...)

Did ring the suppliers of the first rail - 3 suppliers on google seem to
lead to different arms of the same company - rang 2 different numbers.
Neither seemed very sure (don;t know their products???), but decided
it wouldn't bend, probably...

This ali I beam stuff will let me get an almost flush fit to the ceiling in
the bays.

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Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

On 17 Feb, 00:13, Tim Watts wrote:

Which is a rather cheaper source of my second choice. I did find some good
old fashioned solid brass I-beam rail at a more sensible price, but I was
told I wasn't allowed (she hates brass, so doing a steampunk on the house is
apparantly not on...)

We are doing a steampunk. Any sources for cheap brass I track? 8-)

Andy Dingley
wibbled on Wednesday 17 February 2010 15:34

On 17 Feb, 00:13, Tim Watts wrote:

Which is a rather cheaper source of my second choice. I did find some
good old fashioned solid brass I-beam rail at a more sensible price, but
I was told I wasn't allowed (she hates brass, so doing a steampunk on the
house is apparantly not on...)

We are doing a steampunk. Any sources for cheap brass I track? 8-)

Not so much cheap, but cheaper than the first place I found:

http://www.tracksandpoles.com/track_comp_ibeam.shtml

10 pound a metre plus wibbly bits - looks the genuine article from what I
can see, right down the the proper brassed wheeled roller hooks (which I
might try with my ali rail if the nylon rollers turn out to be crap - she
can't see the rollers and I won't tell her ;-



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Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.