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Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into?
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Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Local scrapyard? -- Phil L RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008 |
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were saying: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/ are the main one. |
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Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. Cash |
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Dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/ are the main one. Thanks, but the car I am trying to repair was made in 2000. Dave |
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Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Dave |
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Dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/ are the main one. Thanks, but the car I am trying to repair was made in 2000. It almost certainly doesn't have window seals, then. The glass'll be bonded. |
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Dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( passes gaffer tape |
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Phil L wrote:
Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Local scrapyard? The problem with trying that is that the sun roof glass edge (steel) will have rusted badly by the time the car is in a scrappy and that usually takes the rubber with it. Dave |
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Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Yup. waitamo.. http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/ Dave |
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Dave wrote:
Cash wrote: Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Dave Dave, I know that you are reluctant to use second hand bits - but when I had a Rover, I had great success with this car dismantler http://www.rovaparts.co.uk/ in obtaining parts - and they offer a fair warranty on their stuff. As for the sun roof, I sympathise with you. I had one fail in the open position on a Rover, and it was a sod to sort out - in the end I managed closed the damn thing and sealed it with silicone mastic to stop leaking. Cash |
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Adrian wrote:
Dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( passes gaffer tape Can it be got in antique gold then? ;-) If and when I can get the car up here (it's 266 miles down South away) the silicone and gun are coming out. :-) Dave |
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Dave wrote: Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Well I can get such bits for my 25 year old SD1 Rover from the specialist - have you looked to see if there is one for your model? Other thing is sunroofs are often shared by other makes - and maybe a more recent model who's maker still supplies spares. Honda would be one obvious one. Presumably the glass fits into a metal frame and it's that seal that's leaking? Often when sunroofs start leaking it's because the tray underneath which catches the water that gets past the main seal has rotted through or its drains aren't working properly. -- *Black holes are where God divided by zero * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Cash wrote:
Dave wrote: Cash wrote: Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Dave Dave, I know that you are reluctant to use second hand bits - but when I had a Rover, I had great success with this car dismantler http://www.rovaparts.co.uk/ in obtaining parts - and they offer a fair warranty on their stuff. As for the sun roof, I sympathise with you. I had one fail in the open position on a Rover, and it was a sod to sort out - in the end I managed closed the damn thing and sealed it with silicone mastic to stop leaking. See my post timed 23-50 :-) Dave |
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Dave gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( passes gaffer tape Can it be got in antique gold then? ;-) Beige, y'mean? |
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Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? http://www.coh-baines.co.uk/ are the firm behind a lot of the rubber mouldings sold by trim suppliers. Not the easiest of catalogues to search or to check dimensions from, but they'll send samples and supply small quantitites. -- Kevin Poole ****Use current date to reply (e.g. )**** |
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Cash wrote: Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Last sunroof seal I got was £27. But I suspect the glass ones are all bonded together, so you want a complete roof. But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. If you can't be doing with fixing that, I'd go down the mastic / gaffa tape route. There's a cheap non-setting mastic used for caravans called Carafax IDL 99 which would seal it up but not preclude a proper repair at a later date. |
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"Doki" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying: But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. Sunroof seals (assuming it's a factory-fit-style slider/tilt-and-slide rather than an aftermarket-style pop-up) aren't designed to be waterproof. Merely water-resistant. The drains SHOULD take any water that gets into the tray away. Shagged or missing seals should just result in a bit more wind noise. Open the roof fully and in each corner of the tray (the rears may well be very hidden) will be a drain. Something stiff-but-flexible should be good to give them a quick dyno-rod without dislodging them. But be prepared to drop the headlining... Or, considering it's a near-decade-old Rover 25, just get the gaffer tape out. If you do use silicone, make sure it's not the acidic-cure type, else you'll have a far bigger problem. |
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Adrian wrote: Open the roof fully and in each corner of the tray (the rears may well be very hidden) will be a drain. Something stiff-but-flexible should be good to give them a quick dyno-rod without dislodging them. But be prepared to drop the headlining... Best to push up from underneath. The drain hoses are usually just push fit and if you ram too hard from above you can detach them. Plus the fact that any blockage is likely at the top - leaves etc. -- *No I haven't stolen it , I'm just a **** driver* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Doki wrote:
Dave wrote: Cash wrote: Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Last sunroof seal I got was £27. But I suspect the glass ones are all bonded together, so you want a complete roof. But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. If you can't be doing with fixing that, I'd go down the mastic / gaffa tape route. There's a cheap non-setting mastic used for caravans called Carafax IDL 99 which would seal it up but not preclude a proper repair at a later date. TBH I fixed the leaks where the original mastic had dried out and gone brittle, with decorators caulk, on my camper. Utterly brilliant actually. Its a question of whether the glass to rubber seal is gone, in which case new rubber, or the rubber to metal, in which case mastic.. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying: Best to push up from underneath. If you can get to 'em. The drain hoses are usually just push fit The only sunroof trays I've had out were on the XM I broke and on the current Saab - both were properly clipped on. Plus the fact that any blockage is likely at the top - leaves etc. I was assuming sufficient gumption to clear that sort of obvious loose detritus... |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "Doki" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. Sunroof seals (assuming it's a factory-fit-style slider/tilt-and-slide rather than an aftermarket-style pop-up) aren't designed to be waterproof. Merely water-resistant. The drains SHOULD take any water that gets into the tray away. That's what I was saying... |
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Adrian wrote: Best to push up from underneath. If you can get to 'em. Indeed. And of course they don't follow such a tortuous route they can be rammed. The hoses on mine are only thin rubber and would be easily punctured. The drain hoses are usually just push fit The only sunroof trays I've had out were on the XM I broke and on the current Saab - both were properly clipped on. Ah - only one I've had apart is the SD1. Not because it was leaking but to renew the headlining. Plus the fact that any blockage is likely at the top - leaves etc. I was assuming sufficient gumption to clear that sort of obvious loose detritus... Yes but it might just be blocked a few inches down at the first curve. A powerful vacuum cleaner with a makeshift seal over the outlet might be worth trying - the front ones are usually accessible. -- *When did my wild oats turn to prunes and all bran? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Dave wrote: Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Well I can get such bits for my 25 year old SD1 Rover from the specialist - have you looked to see if there is one for your model? I have done a google, but the model is too new to be a specialist car. Other thing is sunroofs are often shared by other makes - and maybe a more recent model who's maker still supplies spares. Honda would be one obvious one. I'll look further into that, thanks. Presumably the glass fits into a metal frame and it's that seal that's leaking? Often when sunroofs start leaking it's because the tray underneath which catches the water that gets past the main seal has rotted through or its drains aren't working properly. As I wrote earlier, the car is 266 miles away and our daughter has a tendency to fiddle with things, so I don't even know if the window has been set into the mechanism correctly :-( Dave |
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Doki wrote:
Dave wrote: Cash wrote: Dave wrote: Does anyone know of a supplier of the rubber seals that car glass fits into? Dave Dave, Try the main dealer for the car that you have - they should be able to supply them (probably cost an arm *and* a leg mind). Or try one of the windscreen replacement companies near to you. The car I am trying to repair is a Rover 25 and the window is the sun roof :-(( Last sunroof seal I got was £27. But I suspect the glass ones are all bonded together, so you want a complete roof. The sun roof can be un-bolted from the mechanism. The glass has a metal rim around it that is bonded / part of the glass. This bit is prone to rusting. Then there is a rubber seal that wraps round and engages with the metal part and this is all that forms the seal (I think). But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. If you can't be doing with fixing that, I'd go down the mastic / gaffa tape route. There's a cheap non-setting mastic used for caravans called Carafax IDL 99 which would seal it up but not preclude a proper repair at a later date. Ideally, I would like to get the car to my house, as I have a Rover trained man at hand. Even he can't find a suplier of the seal. Thanks Dave |
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Adrian wrote:
"Doki" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. Sunroof seals (assuming it's a factory-fit-style slider/tilt-and-slide rather than an aftermarket-style pop-up) aren't designed to be waterproof. Merely water-resistant. The drains SHOULD take any water that gets into the tray away. Shagged or missing seals should just result in a bit more wind noise. Open the roof fully and in each corner of the tray (the rears may well be very hidden) will be a drain. Something stiff-but-flexible should be good to give them a quick dyno-rod without dislodging them. But be prepared to drop the headlining... Or, considering it's a near-decade-old Rover 25, just get the gaffer tape out. If you do use silicone, make sure it's not the acidic-cure type, else you'll have a far bigger problem. Thanks for that _and_ the warning :-) Dave |
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Dave wrote: Well I can get such bits for my 25 year old SD1 Rover from the specialist - have you looked to see if there is one for your model? I have done a google, but the model is too new to be a specialist car. Someone will specialise in them as soon as the dealers give up. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave wrote: Last sunroof seal I got was £27. But I suspect the glass ones are all bonded together, so you want a complete roof. The sun roof can be un-bolted from the mechanism. The glass has a metal rim around it that is bonded / part of the glass. This bit is prone to rusting. Then there is a rubber seal that wraps round and engages with the metal part and this is all that forms the seal (I think). Right - same as mine, except mine is an all steel type. As I said this doesn't form a perfect seal - only stops most of the water getting in. If there are leaks inside the car there's something wrong with the tray beneath or the drains - unless the seal is missing totally. How about checking a breakers? They're not exactly rare cars. But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. If you can't be doing with fixing that, I'd go down the mastic / gaffa tape route. There's a cheap non-setting mastic used for caravans called Carafax IDL 99 which would seal it up but not preclude a proper repair at a later date. Ideally, I would like to get the car to my house, as I have a Rover trained man at hand. Even he can't find a suplier of the seal. -- *Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Dave wrote: Last sunroof seal I got was £27. But I suspect the glass ones are all bonded together, so you want a complete roof. The sun roof can be un-bolted from the mechanism. The glass has a metal rim around it that is bonded / part of the glass. This bit is prone to rusting. Then there is a rubber seal that wraps round and engages with the metal part and this is all that forms the seal (I think). Right - same as mine, except mine is an all steel type. As I said this doesn't form a perfect seal - only stops most of the water getting in. If there are leaks inside the car there's something wrong with the tray beneath or the drains - unless the seal is missing totally. How about checking a breakers? They're not exactly rare cars. But, as Dave P said, most leaks are down to blocked drain pipes. The seals are never perfect. If you can't be doing with fixing that, I'd go down the mastic / gaffa tape route. There's a cheap non-setting mastic used for caravans called Carafax IDL 99 which would seal it up but not preclude a proper repair at a later date. Ideally, I would like to get the car to my house, as I have a Rover trained man at hand. Even he can't find a suplier of the seal. I think that Schlegel used to do the profiles for Rover. I could be wrong. http://www.schlegel.com/Trans_Detail.asp?pageID=4 |
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