Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

emulsioned walls (it's tending to bleed through new silk emulsion),

gloss white doors,

vinyl kitchen flooring,

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

acrylic(?) bath.

Anyone got any thoughts on the best way to remove the marks from these
various surfaces?

TIA

--
F

F wrote:
Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

emulsioned walls (it's tending to bleed through new silk emulsion),

gloss white doors,

vinyl kitchen flooring,

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

acrylic(?) bath.

Anyone got any thoughts on the best way to remove the marks from these
various surfaces?

Stain Devils stuff is good, get it from any supermarket. A lot of kids felt
tips are non permanant these days, so you might be lucky.

Stain Stop/Block paint will solve the emulsion bleed through.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Jul 13, 7:21*pm, F news@nowhere wrote:

Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

landlords need a carpet cleaner sooner or later


emulsioned walls (it's tending to bleed through new silk emulsion),

1. wash to reduce it
2. use a layer of stain block before painting.


gloss white doors,

should wash off ok. Gloss paint shoudl also cover it ok if necessary

vinyl kitchen flooring,

should wash off


matt finish kitchen unit doors and

oh boy. Plenty of washing, but be careful to keep the water off the
edges or it may blow the chipboard.


acrylic(?) bath.

cream cleaner

Anyone got any thoughts on the best way to remove the marks from these
various surfaces?

TIA

this is all assuming its kids pens. If they were waterpoof markers,
its solvents and expect failures, and damage if the wrong solvent.


NT

Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.
Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips ...

I'd get the professionals in (no, not The Professionals of CI5 fame). Your
local letting agents will know of some decent ones.

You just have to hope that the retained deposit will cover the cost. If it
doesn't, increase it for the next tenant. Bump the rent to recover the cost
over the next year - No shortage of desperate tenants ATM.

Don't know the details of your case, but there may be some redress
regarding Criminal Damage if they have vandalised your property. You won't
get a penny back of course, but it's a bit of fun.

Al.

On 13/07/2009 20:19 NT wrote:

On Jul 13, 7:21 pm, F news@nowhere wrote:

Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

landlords need a carpet cleaner sooner or later

Git one and Prochem in the tank (as recommended by TMH - thanks) hasn't
shifted it.

gloss white doors,

should wash off ok.

Still there.

Gloss paint shoudl also cover it ok if necessary

I'm trying to avoid glossing the whole house. But may well fail...

vinyl kitchen flooring,

should wash off

Still there.

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

oh boy. Plenty of washing, but be careful to keep the water off the
edges or it may blow the chipboard.

Faded, but still visible. I'm trying to avoid adding a shine to the surface.

acrylic(?) bath.

cream cleaner

Still there.

this is all assuming its kids pens. If they were waterpoof markers,
its solvents and expect failures, and damage if the wrong solvent.

Looks like they were.

--
F

On Jul 13, 8:54*pm, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 13/07/2009 20:19 NT wrote:

On Jul 13, 7:21 pm, F news@nowhere wrote:

Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

landlords need a carpet cleaner sooner or later

Git one and Prochem in the tank (as recommended by TMH - thanks) hasn't
shifted it.

gloss white doors,

should wash off ok.

Still there.

Gloss paint shoudl also cover it ok if necessary

I'm trying to avoid glossing the whole house. But may well fail...

vinyl kitchen flooring,

should wash off

Still there.

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

oh boy. Plenty of washing, but be careful to keep the water off the
edges or it may blow the chipboard.

Faded, but still visible. I'm trying to avoid adding a shine to the surface.

acrylic(?) bath.

cream cleaner

Still there.

this is all assuming its kids pens. If they were waterpoof markers,
its solvents and expect failures, and damage if the wrong solvent.

Looks like they were.

now this is making more sense...
all I can suggest is trying various solvents in increasing order of
aggressiveness, or save yourself some times and paint whatever you
can.

Document well and you can at least go to court for damages. You wont
get to collect the money, but it will put debt collectors on their
tail for it, plus any rent owed.


NT

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time with
felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

emulsioned walls (it's tending to bleed through new silk emulsion),

gloss white doors,

vinyl kitchen flooring,

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

acrylic(?) bath.

Anyone got any thoughts on the best way to remove the marks from these
various surfaces?

TIA

--
F

I'd suggest buying a gallon of "Cellulose paint thinners" from the car
spares shop (£7). The stuff's an aggressive solvent and you need to be quick
on cheap plastic surfaces but it'll quickly do the job.
It's so useful I'm surprised the guv haven't banned it. More probably, the
Green lobby have never had to repair their own vehicles so are unaware the
stuff exists .

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:53:12 +0100, "john jardine"
wrote:


I'd suggest buying a gallon of "Cellulose paint thinners" from the car
spares shop (£7). The stuff's an aggressive solvent and you need to be quick
on cheap plastic surfaces but it'll quickly do the job.

Acetone (Cellulose thinners) dissolves many plastics instantly and is
a last resort. Most felt tip will dissolve in white spirit, which in
turn is safe on most plastics and paint surfaces so try that first on
the hard surfaces. T Cut may work on the bath and won't scratch it.
On carpets virtually all solvents will leave an obvious mark if used
locally on the spot, you may find it better to get someone in with the
right equipment.

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:57:13 +0100, Peter Parry had
this to say:

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:53:12 +0100, "john jardine"
wrote:


I'd suggest buying a gallon of "Cellulose paint thinners" from the car
spares shop (£7). The stuff's an aggressive solvent and you need to be quick
on cheap plastic surfaces but it'll quickly do the job.

Acetone (Cellulose thinners) dissolves many plastics instantly and is
a last resort. Most felt tip will dissolve in white spirit, which in
turn is safe on most plastics and paint surfaces so try that first on
the hard surfaces.

Trichlorethylene may also be suitable, and it's relatively innocuous,
if used sensibly.

--
Frank Erskine

"Al" wrote in message
. 4...
Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.
Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips ...

I'd get the professionals in (no, not The Professionals of CI5 fame). Your
local letting agents will know of some decent ones.

You just have to hope that the retained deposit will cover the cost. If it
doesn't, increase it for the next tenant. Bump the rent to recover the
cost
over the next year - No shortage of desperate tenants ATM.

Eh? I was of the understanding that landlords are being squeezed like
everyone else at the moment.

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time with
felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

emulsioned walls (it's tending to bleed through new silk emulsion),

gloss white doors,

vinyl kitchen flooring,

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

acrylic(?) bath.

Anyone got any thoughts on the best way to remove the marks from these
various surfaces?

Have you tried those dense white magic sponge things? They're mildly
abrasive, but take marks off stuff very easily.

In article ,
Al wrote:
You just have to hope that the retained deposit will cover the cost. If
it doesn't, increase it for the next tenant. Bump the rent to recover
the cost over the next year - No shortage of desperate tenants ATM.

Thought the country was awash with 'buy to let' types now with egg all
over their faces?

--
*Why is it that rain drops but snow falls?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 14/07/2009 07:11 Doki wrote:

Have you tried those dense white magic sponge things?

Will try anything!

Do you mean the dish washing type sponges with a fairly compact and
rough surface on one side?

--
F

On Jul 14, 10:25*am, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 14/07/2009 07:11 Doki wrote:

Have you tried those dense white magic sponge things?

Will try anything!

Do you mean the dish washing type sponges with a fairly compact and
rough surface on one side?

think he means melamine sponges. Theyre fine white sponge/foam made of
melamine. May be useful on cupboard doors, but I'd go for paint as the
quick option anywhere its suitable.


NT

NT wrote:
On Jul 14, 10:25 am, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 14/07/2009 07:11 Doki wrote:

Have you tried those dense white magic sponge things?

Will try anything!

Do you mean the dish washing type sponges with a fairly compact and
rough surface on one side?

think he means melamine sponges. Theyre fine white sponge/foam made of
melamine. May be useful on cupboard doors, but I'd go for paint as the
quick option anywhere its suitable.

That's the one. I found it very useful for the sort of job the OP has.

In article ,
F news@nowhere wrote:
Our (not in the slightest) illustrious tenants have finally heeded the
court order and left.

Unfortunately the out-of-control offspring have had a whale of a time
with felt tips on the

80/20 wool/polypropylene carpets,

emulsioned walls (it's tending to bleed through new silk emulsion),

gloss white doors,

vinyl kitchen flooring,

matt finish kitchen unit doors and

acrylic(?) bath.

Anyone got any thoughts on the best way to remove the marks from these
various surfaces?

TIA
My fairly successful remedy when someone has used the wrong pens on a white
board: go over the scribble with a dry wipe marker pen and wipe off the
disolved permanent marker quickly.

Works on hard shiny surfaces pretty well.
John

--
John Mulrooney
NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, the politicians will still get in

In my experience (in a lab where a lot of permanent marker is used),
ethanol does a pretty good job of removing marker from non-porous
surfaces, so meths should shift it without too much damage.
Alternatively, you could try decent strength vodka...At least you
would have another use for the solvent if it didn't work.....

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Al wrote:
You just have to hope that the retained deposit will cover the cost. If
it doesn't, increase it for the next tenant. Bump the rent to recover
the cost over the next year - No shortage of desperate tenants ATM.

Thought the country was awash with 'buy to let' types now with egg all
over their faces?

Well, sort of, it's full of idiots who over stretched themselves,
believed the massive profits line and bought off plan on dodgy
overvalued property that had no chance of making the prices they were
told it would. Plenty of people who bought property without ever even
seeing it (a common problem with buyers from southern Ireland I'm lead
to believe), taking the word of 'friends' in the know.

A fool and his money etc...

The sensible investors who can afford to hold their balls for 5-10 years
will come out of it much richer with more assets as the idiots get
shaken out and have to flog off their 'investments' for less than they
paid, just in time for a new crop of fools to get fleeced.

--
Clint Sharp

Eh? I was of the understanding that landlords are being squeezed like
everyone else at the moment.

You are mistaken. Had a tenant move out Saturday at 10am, new tenant in at
11am at 20% higher rent, didn't even want the cleaning done. They'll bite
your hand of in this neck of the woods

Al.

Thought the country was awash with 'buy to let' types now with egg all
over their faces?

Not in leafy Surrey

Al.