http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam

http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5
£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Heard about this yesterday, just hadn't had chance to see it yet.

At least it was a quick way to go (not that i'm sure it was what he
had in mind...)

Chargrilled steak anyone ?

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 16:47:21 +0100, Colin Wilson wrote:

http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5
£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Heard about this yesterday, just hadn't had chance to see it yet.

At least it was a quick way to go (not that i'm sure it was what he
had in mind...)

Chargrilled steak anyone ?

Curried, of course. Amazing that he touched it twice.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:09:33 +0100 someone who may be PeterC
wrote this:-

Curried, of course. Amazing that he touched it twice.

He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.




--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

David Hansen wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:09:33 +0100 someone who may be PeterC
wrote this:-

Curried, of course. Amazing that he touched it twice.

He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.




Doesn't the first hit throw the contact breaker and then it reconnects in
case it's a spurious fault?

I would like to know how to snatch this video in case it is allowable as a
pts training video.

AJH

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:58 +0100 someone who may be andrew
wrote this:-

Doesn't the first hit throw the contact breaker and then it reconnects in
case it's a spurious fault?

I don't know about railways on the sub-continent, but I understand
that in the UK circuit breakers are left open for a few minutes to
see if something is reported [1] and only then do the control staff
try and close it. I imagine something similar is done there too,
though in view of the large distances there may be automatic
reclosure.

I would like to know how to snatch this video in case it is allowable as a
pts training video.

It will be possible, though I don't have time to look into it.

[1] though when electrification telephones were replaced by NRN I
imagine that getting a message to the electrical control staff
became a longer process, though one which can be initiated from more
places.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

andrew wrote:
David Hansen wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:09:33 +0100 someone who may be PeterC
wrote this:-

Curried, of course. Amazing that he touched it twice.
He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.




Doesn't the first hit throw the contact breaker and then it reconnects in
case it's a spurious fault?

I would like to know how to snatch this video in case it is allowable as a
pts training video.

AJH

There is a Convert Video link below this one
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc0_1243424473

this will allow you to download it to a file.

Toby...

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:11:58 +0100, andrew wrote:

I would like to know how to snatch this video in case it is allowable as
a pts training video.

When I want to grab a copy of a flash video I keep my browser on the page
with the video in it (as if I were going to play it again) and look in my
temporary directory for the saved copy of the file. On my Linux systsem
that's easy: it's in /tmp and usually called FlashXYZABC or something
obvious like that, and also has a very recent timestamp. Then I copy that
to where I want it and convert it if I want to, to say divx avi with a
utility called flv2avi which I found somewhere but it's just a wrapper for
ffmpeg or mencoder (I forget which).

In windoze you'd have to look somewhere under C:\Documents and
Settiings\Temporary ... something or other. But the file converters should
be available for windows too.

--
John Stumbles

Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana
Tits like coconuts

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:13:43 +0100, wrote:

He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.

Looks to me that the second contact is his head rather than the raised arm
to steady himself for this first.

Could it be that a circuit breaker opened and auto reclosed that
quickly?

Seems a tad quick for an auto recloser.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:13:14 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:13:43 +0100, wrote:

He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.

Looks to me that the second contact is his head rather than the raised arm
to steady himself for this first.

Could it be that a circuit breaker opened and auto reclosed that
quickly?

Seems a tad quick for an auto recloser.

Yes, on that sort of power it would take longer than ~1s.

I wondere if the line was DC, but when he stood up he was close to the line
and then he had to touch it so...
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.net...
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:13:43 +0100, wrote:

He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.

Looks to me that the second contact is his head rather than the raised arm
to steady himself for this first.

Could it be that a circuit breaker opened and auto reclosed that
quickly?

Seems a tad quick for an auto recloser.

--
Cheers
Dave.

That would explain why his head was on fire.

Adam

In article et, Dave
Liquorice scribeth thus
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:13:43 +0100, wrote:

He may not have wanted to touch the line twice. It is also not clear
that the second contact involved the same part.

Looks to me that the second contact is his head rather than the raised arm
to steady himself for this first.

Could it be that a circuit breaker opened and auto reclosed that
quickly?

Seems a tad quick for an auto recloser.


I rather think that the current flow wasn't that much, well on the scale
of the power that the OHL can supply. Remember thats at 25 kV and matey
wasn't much of a load. Normally such a supply can shift around quite
heavy trains some 8 megawatts IIRC in the case of a Eurostar trainset...

Theres been a lot of debate over on UK Railway as to whether or not a
video such as depicted there should be used as a public info film to
warn of what can happen if you should touch those harmless looking
wires..

Course they still cook people to death like that tho not as dramatically
in parts of the USA still.

Anyways lets hope he's at peace now .. poor sod;(..
--
Tony Sayer

ARWadsworth wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Three thoughts;

We are better off without his genes in the pool.

Why do they allow people on the roof of a train?

I love it when all his mates leg it instead of attempting to help - not that
they prolly could, but you would try.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In message , The Medway
Handyman writes
ARWadsworth wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Testing testing 123


Three thoughts;

We are better off without his genes in the pool.

Its how the poor travel


Why do they allow people on the roof of a train?

Not been to India, have you ?


I love it when all his mates leg it instead of attempting to help - not that
they prolly could, but you would try.


They all wanted to be the first to get the video on YouTube



--
geoff

In message , geoff
writes
In message , The
Medway Handyman writes
ARWadsworth wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Testing testing 123

Shamelessly following up on my own post

Does anyone know what Error 441 might be?

I can read, but have been unable to post to NGs today


--
geoff

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:27:19 +0100 someone who may be geoff
wrote this:-

Why do they allow people on the roof of a train?

Not been to India, have you ?

The background would be interesting. It obviously wasn't a busy
train, people were not hanging out of the doors.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

David Hansen wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:27:19 +0100 someone who may be geoff
wrote this:-

Why do they allow people on the roof of a train?

Not been to India, have you ?

The background would be interesting. It obviously wasn't a busy
train, people were not hanging out of the doors.

Seemed pretty obvious to me that folk were trying to talk him down and he
wasn't having any of it. Looked like a very deliberate suicide.

Tim

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
...
David Hansen wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 21:27:19 +0100 someone who may be geoff
wrote this:-

Why do they allow people on the roof of a train?

Not been to India, have you ?

The background would be interesting. It obviously wasn't a busy
train, people were not hanging out of the doors.

Seemed pretty obvious to me that folk were trying to talk him down and he
wasn't having any of it. Looked like a very deliberate suicide.

Tim

Did you see the guy in China that was threatening to jump off a bridge and a
member of the public climbed up and shoved him?

Adam

In article , The Medway
Handyman scribeth thus
ARWadsworth wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Three thoughts;

We are better off without his genes in the pool.

Why do they allow people on the roof of a train?

I love it when all his mates leg it instead of attempting to help - not that
they prolly could, but you would try.



Dave the bloke wasn't playing about he was mentally deranged. Or higher
than the proverbial kite on drugs....
--
Tony Sayer

The Medway Handyman wrote:

We are better off without his genes in the pool.

Darwin claims another couple

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/8095826.stm

In article ,
ARWadsworth writes

http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

(you have to love the "Videos you'll also enjoy" below)

Mate sent it to me in email this morning, a slightly longer version.
You have to wonder what was going through his mind (before it got fried)

What was the voltage? 25kV?

--
(\__/)
(='.'=) Bunny says Windows 7 is Vi$ta reloaded.
(")_(") http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:10:47 +0100 someone who may be Mike Tomlinson
wrote this:-

What was the voltage? 25kV?

Looks likely. The first electrification schemes in India were 1500V
DC and I believe this still exists in a few places (or they have
recently been changed to 25kV). There were then a few at 3000V DC,
but these have been replaced. However, since the 1960s 25kV AC has
been used and all lines will be/have been converted to this.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

In article , David Hansen
writes

However, since the 1960s 25kV AC has
been used and all lines will be/have been converted to this.

Thank you.

Since the body is mostly water, that's gonna be a hell of a current. In
that clip, there's a bright reddish flash surrounding the body as he
touches the wire. I wonder: is that a camera artifact, or would someone
there have actually seen it?

--
(\__/)
(='.'=) Bunny says Windows 7 is Vi$ta reloaded.
(")_(") http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png

In article ,
Mike Tomlinson writes:
In article , David Hansen
writes

However, since the 1960s 25kV AC has
been used and all lines will be/have been converted to this.

Thank you.

Since the body is mostly water, that's gonna be a hell of a current. In
that clip, there's a bright reddish flash surrounding the body as he
touches the wire. I wonder: is that a camera artifact, or would someone
there have actually seen it?

The body just acts to start the arc flash-over outside the body.
The arc is much lower impedance than the body so most of the
current flows in the arc, not through the body. The arc is very
high energy -- usually into the 10's of MW, and being at point
blank range, that will probably be fatal even without any
electrocution current.

This is same effect as the pop and bright flash you sometimes
get when a filament lamp dies. The filament breaks and initially
creates a spark between the ends. The arc is much lower impedance
than the filament, so the two ends of the arc rapidly run in the
opposite direction down the filament until it's completely shorted
out, which is what causes the bright flash and blows a fuse (in
the lamp base or consumer unit).

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Mike Tomlinson
saying something like:

Since the body is mostly water, that's gonna be a hell of a current. In
that clip, there's a bright reddish flash surrounding the body as he
touches the wire. I wonder: is that a camera artifact, or would someone
there have actually seen it?

The damn thing froze on that frame as I was viewing it and his whole
body surface was a sheet of fizzing flame for an instant. Looked as if
it was fairly real and not just an artefact.
Impressive though, and if he'd known just what effect he was going to
have I bet he wishes he wasn't dead.

In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon scribeth thus
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Mike Tomlinson
saying something like:

Since the body is mostly water, that's gonna be a hell of a current. In
that clip, there's a bright reddish flash surrounding the body as he
touches the wire. I wonder: is that a camera artifact, or would someone
there have actually seen it?

The damn thing froze on that frame as I was viewing it and his whole
body surface was a sheet of fizzing flame for an instant. Looked as if
it was fairly real and not just an artefact.
Impressive though, and if he'd known just what effect he was going to
have I bet he wishes he wasn't dead.

Theres other clips on the web deranged people up power line poles with
much the same arcing flashover effects;(

Some survive tho;!...
--
Tony Sayer

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:10:47 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

You have to wonder what was going through his mind (before it got fried)

A few amps, at a guess.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Smokin'!

**** slow and buggy site - liveleak's better
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc0_1243424473

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:44:35 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Smokin'!

**** slow and buggy site - liveleak's better
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc0_1243424473

tinypic didn't work for me so I followed your liveleak one.
Ye gods!!
To my surprise it did look like the others were trying to get him to
come down rather than join him. Obviously they're not thick.

Unlike
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c1_1188968489
where they were trying to tap the overhead distribution cables.
Picture quality is poor but I found it more shocking (excuse pun!)

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

Unlike
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c1_1188968489
where they were trying to tap the overhead distribution cables.
Picture quality is poor but I found it more shocking (excuse pun!)

Well, that certainly got them off the pole.

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:11:45 GMT, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam


Yes OK stupid, but still horrific !

Andy C

ARWadsworth wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam



Pretty sick snuff movie really.

ARWadsworth wrote:
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

I would bet it happens quite regularly in poorer countries where people
travel on train roofs.

I would also doubt there is a quicker death.

D

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
om...
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam



Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind bars.
One where someone dies is perfectly ok, yet the other of children enjoying
themselves is not. It's a weird world of strange values.

On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:26:05 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
om...
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam



Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind bars.
One where someone dies is perfectly ok, yet the other of children enjoying
themselves is not. It's a weird world of strange values.

Unless it's for training purposes in a catholic [in]seminary.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Fredxx" saying
something like:

Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind bars.

What a load of cock. Nowhere is it illegal to watch a vid of kids
playing, providing you aren't caught having a ham shank during it.

"jake" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:26:05 +0100, "Fredxx" wrote:


"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
.com...
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam



Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a
similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind
bars.
One where someone dies is perfectly ok,
No-one said "it's perfectly ok". In fact the OP could have (and imho
should have) put a warning to the effect of the real content. An
irresponsible post because of this - yes. Many people will have been
affected in a bad way having witnessed this. Just take a look at the
followups and the number that have (as per human nature) tried to
trivialize or make a joke about it. Many of these are probably
shocked (no pun etc) and covering up with a macho comment.

I do not suggest that such a post should be "banned" btw - just that
warning of content should have been posted. What if some young kids
watched this?

As to photgraphing kids - yes it is a great shame when anyone who
enjoys watching kids play & growing in a totally innocent way - is an
instant pervert. This attitude is of course due to a) real perverts
b) the rabid feminist movement eg bbc etc. It is amazing how many of
the so-called "protectors" like priests and teachers have molested
kids.

The two event above are of course - unrelated.

To be fair to the OP, there was a mention of electrocution and anyone with
any intelligence would suss out what was going to happen from the first few
seconds of the clip.

The point I made was that even given a warning, I can legally download a
clip watching someone die.

However, if the OP pointed to a link and said something like "Children
playing nude on a beach", and I had downloaded the clip, at the very least
if the authorities knew, I would lose my PC for months or possibly years. I
would most likely be threatened with at least a caution or further
prosecution.

To me it's a sad world gone mad.

In article , Fredxx
scribeth thus

"jake" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:26:05 +0100, "Fredxx" wrote:


"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
a.com...
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam



Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a
similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind
bars.
One where someone dies is perfectly ok,
No-one said "it's perfectly ok". In fact the OP could have (and imho
should have) put a warning to the effect of the real content. An
irresponsible post because of this - yes. Many people will have been
affected in a bad way having witnessed this. Just take a look at the
followups and the number that have (as per human nature) tried to
trivialize or make a joke about it. Many of these are probably
shocked (no pun etc) and covering up with a macho comment.

I do not suggest that such a post should be "banned" btw - just that
warning of content should have been posted. What if some young kids
watched this?

As to photgraphing kids - yes it is a great shame when anyone who
enjoys watching kids play & growing in a totally innocent way - is an
instant pervert. This attitude is of course due to a) real perverts
b) the rabid feminist movement eg bbc etc. It is amazing how many of
the so-called "protectors" like priests and teachers have molested
kids.

The two event above are of course - unrelated.


Indeed..

Now be warned that this site contains pix of naked boys and if that
offends you then DO NOT click on it).....

http://www.sutcliffe-gallery.co.uk/gallery_194448.html
--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Fredxx
scribeth thus

"jake" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:26:05 +0100, "Fredxx" wrote:


"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
ia.com...
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5


Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a
similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind
bars.
One where someone dies is perfectly ok,
No-one said "it's perfectly ok". In fact the OP could have (and imho
should have) put a warning to the effect of the real content. An
irresponsible post because of this - yes. Many people will have been
affected in a bad way having witnessed this. Just take a look at the
followups and the number that have (as per human nature) tried to
trivialize or make a joke about it. Many of these are probably
shocked (no pun etc) and covering up with a macho comment.

I do not suggest that such a post should be "banned" btw - just that
warning of content should have been posted. What if some young kids
watched this?

As to photgraphing kids - yes it is a great shame when anyone who
enjoys watching kids play & growing in a totally innocent way - is an
instant pervert. This attitude is of course due to a) real perverts
b) the rabid feminist movement eg bbc etc. It is amazing how many of
the so-called "protectors" like priests and teachers have molested
kids.

The two event above are of course - unrelated.


Indeed..

Now be warned that this site contains pix of naked boys and if that
offends you then DO NOT click on it).....

http://www.sutcliffe-gallery.co.uk/gallery_194448.html

It'd be OK if at least one was killed through Darwinsm. Otherwise I'd be
petrified to click on the link.

In message , Fredxx
writes

"jake" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:26:05 +0100, "Fredxx" wrote:


"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
a.com...
http://tinypic.com/r/amvbbt/5

£50 says he will not be doing that again.

Adam



Sad that it's perfectly legal to download and watch this clip, yet a
similar
clip of young children running around on a beach would put you behind
bars.
One where someone dies is perfectly ok,
No-one said "it's perfectly ok". In fact the OP could have (and imho
should have) put a warning to the effect of the real content. An
irresponsible post because of this - yes. Many people will have been
affected in a bad way having witnessed this. Just take a look at the
followups and the number that have (as per human nature) tried to
trivialize or make a joke about it. Many of these are probably
shocked (no pun etc) and covering up with a macho comment.

I do not suggest that such a post should be "banned" btw - just that
warning of content should have been posted. What if some young kids
watched this?

As to photgraphing kids - yes it is a great shame when anyone who
enjoys watching kids play & growing in a totally innocent way - is an
instant pervert. This attitude is of course due to a) real perverts
b) the rabid feminist movement eg bbc etc. It is amazing how many of
the so-called "protectors" like priests and teachers have molested
kids.

The two event above are of course - unrelated.

To be fair to the OP, there was a mention of electrocution and anyone with
any intelligence would suss out what was going to happen from the first few
seconds of the clip.

The point I made was that even given a warning, I can legally download a
clip watching someone die.

However, if the OP pointed to a link and said something like "Children
playing nude on a beach", and I had downloaded the clip, at the very least
if the authorities knew, I would lose my PC for months or possibly years. I
would most likely be threatened with at least a caution or further
prosecution.

Haven't there been some attempted prosecutions under the terrorism act
of people having visited various sites?

This means that you could maybe hear "ricin" mentioned on the news,
looked it up, looked at a site containing bomb making information etc
and get a knock on the door

yes, madness mixed with paranoia


--
geoff