It's now three weeks since I arrived here in Melbourne, and am now glad
to be able to rejoin you all. I'll be continuing to develop and sell
SuperBeam and ProSteel under my new company name, so will retain a
strong interest in UK construction.

I'm now living in a 26th floor flat with a wonderful view of the city
centre skyscrapers. Not much scope for DIY but since arriving have
assembled no end of Ikea furniture - give TMH some competition! With
apologies to the memory of Andy Hall I had to go out and buy the
cheapest saw and drill I could find so as to reduce the depth of one
unit and drill some holes for cables in others, but that's as far as it
goes.

The two-week wait to get a phone and broadband installed was the most
frustrating thing, along with 'express' air-shipping of my PCs taking
three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months


--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:49 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:


three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)

--
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

In article , The Wanderer
scribeth thus
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:49 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:


three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...
--
Tony Sayer

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice
spring weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple
of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

--
*If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , The Wanderer
scribeth thus
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:49 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:


three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...
--
Tony Sayer


I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

Peter

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:46:56 +0100 Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

It is a serious issue he each day in the weather section of the paper
it gives the current dam levels and as of yesterday they are at 34.3% of
capacity with a long summer yet to come.

Last Saturday I went to an energy and water saving exhibition - joined a
car-share club. Lots of exhibitors selling mega water butts as use of tap
water is banned for car washing and you can only water gardens twice a
week between something like 6 and 8 a.m. Not an issue when you live in a
26th floor high-rise!

And to keep Drivel happy, I hired a Prius for 24 hours on Mon/Tues - very
interesting, and given that Melbourne city traffic is as bad as London's
it was in its element.

--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:57:36 +0100 Peter Andrews wrote :
I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

High summer is what I'm half-dreading! Melbourne weather is notorious for
being changeable - today I've worn a jumper all day as it's been somewhat
chilly. I deliberately chose an east-facing flat so it's in the shade in
the afternoon but come Jan/Feb there will be more than a few days when
it's 40C or more and no escape.

--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

Tony Bryer coughed up some electrons that declared:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:57:36 +0100 Peter Andrews wrote :
I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

High summer is what I'm half-dreading! Melbourne weather is notorious for
being changeable - today I've worn a jumper all day as it's been somewhat
chilly. I deliberately chose an east-facing flat so it's in the shade in
the afternoon but come Jan/Feb there will be more than a few days when
it's 40C or more and no escape.


Thoughts of fat Santa on a beach in a thong

shudder

Don't know about Melbourne, but I really liked Brisbane (and QLD in general)
when I was there last April. People seem much less stressed than here. And
I was out on a job, so I don't think it was rose-tinted tourist specs. I
was stressed though!

Cheers

Tim

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:57:36 +0100, Peter Andrews wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , The Wanderer
scribeth thus
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:49 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:


three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...
--
Tony Sayer


I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

It was indeed. That's why the smiley was included. I can only conclude that
Mr Sayer has had a humour bypass.......


--
Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

"Tony Bryer" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:46:56 +0100 Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

It is a serious issue he each day in the weather section of the paper
it gives the current dam levels and as of yesterday they are at 34.3% of
capacity with a long summer yet to come.

Last Saturday I went to an energy and water saving exhibition - joined a
car-share club. Lots of exhibitors selling mega water butts as use of tap
water is banned for car washing and you can only water gardens twice a
week between something like 6 and 8 a.m. Not an issue when you live in a
26th floor high-rise!

A friend of mine moved there nearly 3 years ago, he likes the People but not
the police or government, he's a bit of a DIYer, but I hear it's quite
restrictive out there
you can't legally change a plug (electrical).
As for water butts are tehy really worth it when the govenrment is said to
own the rain.
People still get restrictions on using the water from their butts apparently



And to keep Drivel happy, I hired a Prius for 24 hours on Mon/Tues - very
interesting, and given that Melbourne city traffic is as bad as London's
it was in its element.
Wait until you want to travel outside the city and face the very strict
55MPH,
there's a 2% leaway if yuo're lucky. And if one wheeel goes over the wrong
line you'll
find a cop car at your throat even if you think you'tre out in the desert
they 'entrap'
you far more than they do here. It's the way they get revenue, and IIRC yuor
guilty unless
you can prove your innocent which is difficult because they won''t show you
the pitures
or raw data they have, oh and the beers crap apart from a few micro-brewers.
But still the weather nice. Although he did develop a cancerous mole on his
face .
Although he had it before he went to Aus it was teh hot climante that
brought it on.


--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

In article ,
The Wanderer wrote:
I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

It was indeed. That's why the smiley was included. I can only conclude
that Mr Sayer has had a humour bypass.......

He probably hit the DAB button on his radio by mistake and has been in a
foul mood all day. ;-)

--
*If I worked as much as others, I would do as little as they *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Tony Bryer" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:57:36 +0100 Peter Andrews wrote :
I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

High summer is what I'm half-dreading! Melbourne weather is notorious for
being changeable - today I've worn a jumper all day as it's been somewhat
chilly. I deliberately chose an east-facing flat so it's in the shade in
the afternoon but come Jan/Feb there will be more than a few days when
it's 40C or more and no escape.


This site should help you integrate with the locals

http://whingingpomme.com/jokesaus.htm

Personally I could not live with 40C

Enjoy

Adam

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice
spring weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple
of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

And that they have to drink that awful, fizzy, tasteless Fosters muck.

:-)



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice
spring weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple
of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

And that they have to drink that awful, fizzy, tasteless Fosters muck.

:-)




Actually, there's no Fosters in Oz (at least none that I saw). I believe
it's all batch failures from other beer, they can't sell it, so some wag
badged it up and exported it here.

Fortunately for them, the chavs here aren't very discerning.

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice
spring weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple
of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

Watch me cry ...

I've just returned from upper 30s approaching 40 degrees


--
geoff

In message , Tony Bryer
writes
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:46:56 +0100 Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

It is a serious issue he each day in the weather section of the paper
it gives the current dam levels and as of yesterday they are at 34.3% of
capacity with a long summer yet to come.

Last Saturday I went to an energy and water saving exhibition - joined a
car-share club. Lots of exhibitors selling mega water butts as use of tap
water is banned for car washing and you can only water gardens twice a
week between something like 6 and 8 a.m. Not an issue when you live in a
26th floor high-rise!

And to keep Drivel happy, I hired a Prius for 24 hours on Mon/Tues - very
interesting, and given that Melbourne city traffic is as bad as London's
it was in its element.

What, stationary for 95% of the time ?

--
geoff

In message ,
ARWadsworth writes

"Tony Bryer" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:57:36 +0100 Peter Andrews wrote :
I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

High summer is what I'm half-dreading! Melbourne weather is notorious for
being changeable - today I've worn a jumper all day as it's been somewhat
chilly. I deliberately chose an east-facing flat so it's in the shade in
the afternoon but come Jan/Feb there will be more than a few days when
it's 40C or more and no escape.


This site should help you integrate with the locals

http://whingingpomme.com/jokesaus.htm

Personally I could not live with 40C

Love it ...


--
geoff

In message , The Wanderer
writes
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:57:36 +0100, Peter Andrews wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , The Wanderer
scribeth thus
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:49 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:


three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...
--
Tony Sayer


I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

It was indeed. That's why the smiley was included. I can only conclude that
Mr Sayer has had a humour bypass.......

become an australian, you mean ?

Last week in Kuta ...

"... this is what the poor people eat - cost 35 cents"

"what - like you ?" I replied, I didn't realise he was big as well as
antipodean and ignorant


--
geoff

In message , The Medway
Handyman writes
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice
spring weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple
of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...

Oh yes - considering the summer we've not had.

But at least we can find some comfort in their drought. ;-)

And that they have to drink that awful, fizzy, tasteless Fosters muck.

Never been to the antipodean regions, dave?

They have other muck like VB - even they have taste enough not to drink
fosters


--
geoff

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:09:01 +0100 Geoff wrote :
And to keep Drivel happy, I hired a Prius for 24 hours on Mon/Tues -
very interesting, and given that Melbourne city traffic is as bad as
London's it was in its element.

What, stationary for 95% of the time ?

Feels like it at times. Ikea is 8km (5 miles) from here and most trips
have taken 25-30 minutes each way. Haven't counted but probably 25-30
sets of lights along the way, most, of course, red!

If I was hiring a car for a long out-of-town drive I wouldn't opt for a
Prius - as discussed here many times, for open road driving it's just a
petrol-engined car pulling a lot of weight.

The car-share club I've joined has a Honda Jazz parked a couple of
minutes walk away: you book online by the hour and it costs the
equivalent of £5 per hour including petrol (mileage excess for longer
journeys): you're sent a swipe card that lets you into the car at your
allotted time.

--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:56:12 GMT ARWadsworth wrote :
This site should help you integrate with the locals

http://whingingpomme.com/jokesaus.htm

"... On an Air NZ Flight with a very "senior" flight attendant crew, the
pilot said, "Ladies and gentlemen, we've reached cruising altitude and
will be turning down the cabin lights. This is for your comfort and to
enhance the appearance of your flight attendants." ..."

A couple of years back I was on an Air NZ flight which served an rather
'interesting' breakfast roll - I assumed it was some Kiwi speciality.
Then the announcement "if you wondered what the breakfast was, it was
meant to be a bacon and egg roll, but for reasons I cannot explain it
was bacon and banana!"

Personally I could not live with 40C

A lot depends on the humidity: I have been in Phoenix Arizona where it
is that hot but next to no humidity. You tip liquid in at one end by the
gallon and not much comes out at the other, and you never get sweaty and
uncomfortable. I've known it much more oppressive in London.

--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

Tony Bryer coughed up some electrons that declared:

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:09:01 +0100 Geoff wrote :
And to keep Drivel happy, I hired a Prius for 24 hours on Mon/Tues -
very interesting, and given that Melbourne city traffic is as bad as
London's it was in its element.

What, stationary for 95% of the time ?

Feels like it at times. Ikea is 8km (5 miles) from here and most trips
have taken 25-30 minutes each way. Haven't counted but probably 25-30
sets of lights along the way, most, of course, red!

So just like the Croydon Ikea then!

If I was hiring a car for a long out-of-town drive I wouldn't opt for a
Prius - as discussed here many times, for open road driving it's just a
petrol-engined car pulling a lot of weight.

Cue Dribble.

The car-share club I've joined has a Honda Jazz parked a couple of
minutes walk away: you book online by the hour and it costs the
equivalent of £5 per hour including petrol (mileage excess for longer
journeys): you're sent a swipe card that lets you into the car at your
allotted time.


That's a good idea. Can you mention the website - I'd like to see how this
works.

Anyway, glad you're settling in

Cheers

Tim

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:33:05 +0100 Tim S wrote :
That's a good idea. Can you mention the website - I'd like to see
how this works.

https://www.flexicar.com.au/

It really looks promising for me as the nearest car is just a couple
of minutes away.

--
Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' www.superbeam.co.uk

In article , Peter Andrews
scribeth thus

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , The Wanderer
scribeth thus
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:19:49 +0100, Tony Bryer wrote:


three weeks. But everything is now settling down, with some nice spring
weather before the oppressive summer heat starts in a couple of months

Oh, p*ss orff! :-)


Was that really called for?...
--
Tony Sayer


I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

Peter



Its all right...

Soon be the end of this poxy year and hopefully it will be a bit better
next year..
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
The Wanderer wrote:
I took The Wanderers comment as a tongue in cheek reference to Tony B
looking forward to his summer, while all we have is cold and wet!

It was indeed. That's why the smiley was included. I can only conclude
that Mr Sayer has had a humour bypass.......

He probably hit the DAB button on his radio by mistake and has been in a
foul mood all day. ;-)


Had yer hearing tested yet Dave...
--
Tony Sayer

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:22:11 +1100, Tony Bryer
wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:33:05 +0100 Tim S wrote :
That's a good idea. Can you mention the website - I'd like to see
how this works.

https://www.flexicar.com.au/

It really looks promising for me as the nearest car is just a couple
of minutes away.

A similar service is already up and running in the UK for about the
same price.

http://www.whizzgo.co.uk/

(never used them personally but just heard about them)


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