Hello all,

This is the first time I have used newsgroups and thought this would be
the best place to start. I was going to start posting in the security
newsgroups but have been told that most things within this field are covered
in this newsgroup.

I'm currently working for a VMSecure, who supply business to business,
products of a security related nature. One of our main products though is
access control and we also deal a lot in CCTV.

Due to this, I may be able to help a lot of you out there. If you have
any queries on any of these products don't hesitate to get in touch. I can
assist you in making the correct choice on a product to meet your
requirments or I can help you choose and implement an access control system
within your office/company.

If you feel I may be able to help you then don't hesitate to contact me.

Anthony Birch
(Sales Manager)
VMSECURE

"Anthony Birch" wrote in message
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Hello all,

This is the first time I have used newsgroups and thought this
would be the best place to start. I was going to start posting in the
security newsgroups but have been told that most things within this
field are covered in this newsgroup.

This is spam, you know it is spam, and we know it is spam, it is not
allowed in most newsgroups and it is more likely to give you and your
company a lot of abuse and a bad name, than generate any sales.

Anthony Birch wrote:

This is the first time I have used newsgroups

That would be a bit of lie, wouldn't it Anthony? Are you by any chance
going for an award for "most ****witted spammer, ever"?

Anthony Birch wrote:
Hello all,

This is the first time I have used newsgroups and thought this
would be the best place to start. I was going to start posting in
the security newsgroups but have been told that most things within
this field are covered in this newsgroup.

I'm currently working for a VMSecure, who supply business to
business, products of a security related nature. One of our main
products though is access control and we also deal a lot in CCTV.

Due to this, I may be able to help a lot of you out there. If you
have any queries on any of these products don't hesitate to get in
touch. I can assist you in making the correct choice on a product to
meet your requirments or I can help you choose and implement an
access control system within your office/company.

If you feel I may be able to help you then don't hesitate to
contact me.

Hi Anthony, and welcome to the darkest regions of the interweb. The way it
works from here is that you provide helpful, informative comments in
relevant threads, taking care to never plug your own company or products.

If you do this over a decent while, suspicions of spamming will gradually
ebb and you'll become a valued member of the community. In the long run
you'll probably make some sales, and establish your firm's reputation with a
very diverse community of DIY'ers and other malcontents. The profit from
this will *not* be sufficent to meet the time you will waste debating with
us, because we're a legion or opinionated tinkerers and we like to yak on
about it.

Basically, if you're here to sell for gain then give up now. If you're
here because you genuinely enjoy talking about technology, tools (we like
angle grinders especially), sheds, saniflo's or scaffolding, then get a
cuppa and join in.

Hi all,

Many apologies to you all. As this is my first time using newsgroups I
was unaware of any rules relating to posting spam. I have no intentions of
promoting products through newsgroups as I here to help.

I feel bad for getting off on the wrong foot with you all. My parents
used to use newsgroups back in the good old days when they first appeared.
Information obtained through these newsgroups was always useful so I was
only trying to be a part. I apologise for stating the companies name, I
thought it would just be a good idea to state what I do as a job.

Once again I apologise to you all.

Anthony Birch

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:19:19 +0100, Anthony Birch wrote:

Hi all,

Many apologies to you all. As this is my first time using newsgroups I
was unaware of any rules relating to posting spam. I have no intentions of
promoting products through newsgroups as I here to help.

I feel bad for getting off on the wrong foot with you all. My parents
used to use newsgroups back in the good old days when they first appeared.
Information obtained through these newsgroups was always useful so I was
only trying to be a part. I apologise for stating the companies name, I
thought it would just be a good idea to state what I do as a job.

Once again I apologise to you all.

It would be so very easy to fall into abusive mode, and use terms such as
"fibber", "lying *******" & so on but, as I don't want to do that, I'll
just ask, if this is your "first time using newsgroups", who was it who
posted the following?

http://tinyurl.com/4jxzam

By the way, do you live in Nottingham?

In article ,
Anthony Birch wrote:
Many apologies to you all. As this is my first time using
newsgroups I was unaware of any rules relating to posting spam.

You seem to have discovered how to cross post pretty early, though. And
how to find relevant newsgroups.

I have no intentions of promoting products through newsgroups as I here
to help.

Hmm.

I feel bad for getting off on the wrong foot with you all. My
parents used to use newsgroups back in the good old days when they first
appeared.

Then they would certainly have mentioned spam. It's as old as newsgroups.


Information obtained through these newsgroups was
always useful so I was only trying to be a part. I apologise for
stating the companies name, I thought it would just be a good idea to
state what I do as a job.

Quite simple then. You answer related queries without promoting your
products. You can say what you do for a living in a proper sig.

--
*I finally got my head together, now my body is falling apart.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Anthony Birch wrote:

Many apologies to you all. As this is my first time using newsgroups
I was unaware of any rules relating to posting spam. I have no
intentions of promoting products through newsgroups as I here to help.

Can't speak for free.uk.diy.home, but the convention in uk.d-i-y (its
too old to have a proper charter) is that explicit adds are not allowed.
However if there is a genuine question to which you believe your product
might help, you can mention it. It is also accepted by most if you
include a link to your business site in your signature lines.

So with that, welcome!


--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm wrote:

Can't speak for free.uk.diy.home, but the convention in uk.d-i-y (its
too old to have a proper charter) is that explicit adds are not allowed.
However if there is a genuine question to which you believe your product
might help, you can mention it. It is also accepted by most if you
include a link to your business site in your signature lines.

No charter for uk.d-i-y, but advertising policy is in the FAQ:
http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/#can

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Andy