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This one here to be precise: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ170243832926
Why's it come with two glands? I asked the chappy selling it if it needs a separate feed to each socket and he replied saying "Yes I think you need two feeds". After I sent the question to him I wondered if perhaps they gave you two glands in case you wanted to daisy chain more than one together but either scenario seems unlikely. Any thoughts? Do two gang outdoor sockets generally have a separate feed to each socket? Seems bloody silly to me. Si |
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"Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" writes: This one here to be precise: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ170243832926 Why's it come with two glands? I asked the chappy selling it if it needs a separate feed to each socket and he replied saying "Yes I think you need two feeds". After I sent the question to him I wondered if perhaps they gave you two glands in case you wanted to daisy chain more than one together but either scenario seems unlikely. Any thoughts? Do two gang outdoor sockets generally have a separate feed to each socket? Seems bloody silly to me. I would presume it's so it can be part of a ring, or non-last on a radial circuit. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot wrote: Why's it come with two glands? I asked the chappy selling it if it needs a separate feed to each socket and he replied saying "Yes I think you need two feeds". After I sent the question to him I wondered if perhaps they gave you two glands in case you wanted to daisy chain more than one together but either scenario seems unlikely. Could be part of a ring or spur in which case you would need an 'in and out' - you need one gland per cable to waterproof them. Any thoughts? Do two gang outdoor sockets generally have a separate feed to each socket? Seems bloody silly to me. Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. -- *There's two theories to arguing with a woman. Neither one works * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot" writes: This one here to be precise: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ170243832926 Why's it come with two glands? I asked the chappy selling it if it needs a separate feed to each socket and he replied saying "Yes I think you need two feeds". After I sent the question to him I wondered if perhaps they gave you two glands in case you wanted to daisy chain more than one together but either scenario seems unlikely. Any thoughts? Do two gang outdoor sockets generally have a separate feed to each socket? Seems bloody silly to me. I would presume it's so it can be part of a ring, or non-last on a radial circuit. That sounds likely, ta. Si |
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
This one here to be precise: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ170243832926 Why's it come with two glands? I asked the chappy selling it if it needs a separate feed to each socket and he replied saying "Yes I think you need two feeds". After I sent the question to him I wondered if perhaps they gave you two glands in case you wanted to daisy chain more than one together but either scenario seems unlikely. Any thoughts? Do two gang outdoor sockets generally have a separate feed to each socket? Seems bloody silly to me. Some of these can be wired independently - so you could for example wire each to a different circuit (not that this would be a sensible thing in most cases). Typically however you would normally just include internal bridge wires to common both sockets. So the only time you are likely to need the extra gland is when you need to continue the circuit on to another accessory since you can't use two cables in one gland. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:10:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. That one is the remains of an ALDI offer from a few months ago. It came with an RCD plug which seems to have gone missing and they are disposing of the remaining socket and bits. You are meant to put the socket on an outside wall, the cable through the wall and then an RCD plug on the cable to terminate it. The thing then plugs into the mains. |
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EricP wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:10:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. That one is the remains of an ALDI offer from a few months ago. It came with an RCD plug which seems to have gone missing and they are disposing of the remaining socket and bits. You are meant to put the socket on an outside wall, the cable through the wall and then an RCD plug on the cable to terminate it. The thing then plugs into the mains. Oh yes? Any idea how much it was? Si |
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EricP wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:10:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. That one is the remains of an ALDI offer from a few months ago. It came with an RCD plug which seems to have gone missing and they are disposing of the remaining socket and bits. You are meant to put the socket on an outside wall, the cable through the wall and then an RCD plug on the cable to terminate it. The thing then plugs into the mains. Oh yes? Any idea how much it was? Si |
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EricP wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:10:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. That one is the remains of an ALDI offer from a few months ago. It came with an RCD plug which seems to have gone missing and they are disposing of the remaining socket and bits. You are meant to put the socket on an outside wall, the cable through the wall and then an RCD plug on the cable to terminate it. The thing then plugs into the mains. Oh yes? Any idea how much it was? Si |
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Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
EricP wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:10:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. That one is the remains of an ALDI offer from a few months ago. It came with an RCD plug which seems to have gone missing and they are disposing of the remaining socket and bits. You are meant to put the socket on an outside wall, the cable through the wall and then an RCD plug on the cable to terminate it. The thing then plugs into the mains. Oh yes? Any idea how much it was? Si I'm not that eager to know - blame the cheesy server. Si |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:30:11 +0100, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote: EricP wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:10:38 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: Looks like a standard domestic one inside a waterproof box to me - so would normally be internally connected. That one is the remains of an ALDI offer from a few months ago. It came with an RCD plug which seems to have gone missing and they are disposing of the remaining socket and bits. You are meant to put the socket on an outside wall, the cable through the wall and then an RCD plug on the cable to terminate it. The thing then plugs into the mains. Oh yes? Any idea how much it was? Si I think I had a few pence change from a twenty pound note for it. I just saw it and did a spec buy on it. Putting the bits together from the likes of tlc would have meant a single socket for about the same. |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote: This one here to be precise: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQitemZ170243832926 Why's it come with two glands? I asked the chappy selling it if it needs a separate feed to each socket and he replied saying "Yes I think you need two feeds". After I sent the question to him I wondered if perhaps they gave you two glands in case you wanted to daisy chain more than one together but either scenario seems unlikely. Any thoughts? Do two gang outdoor sockets generally have a separate feed to each socket? Seems bloody silly to me. Si I'd be very surprised if the outlets had separate feeds - I guess that two glands are provided so that you can continue the wiring to another device, maybe on a ring. Where are you going to mount the socket, and what type of cable are you intending to use? If it's truly 'out in the weather', you really need armoured cable - in which case you also need the proper glands, and the ones provided won't be any good. The supply end - of course - needs to be connected via an RCD. -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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EricP wrote:
Putting the bits together from the likes of tlc would have meant a single socket for about the same. These are ok for the money: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LB8840.html -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm writes: EricP wrote: Putting the bits together from the likes of tlc would have meant a single socket for about the same. These are ok for the money: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LB8840.html Do you need ones that are waterproof when in use? If you aren't going to be using the socket in the rain, then there are cheaper ones. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Do you need ones that are waterproof when in use? If you aren't going to be using the socket in the rain, then there are cheaper ones. I do. It's for a pond pump inna timber box beside the pond. Si |
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